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LDB wrote:Stick to eggball.
Its off season till September.
LDB wrote:I never thought they had that kind of backs-against-the-wall performance in them but they proved me wrong tonight
By conceeding 3 goals?

Man you gots some low expectations.

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rodders999 wrote:
Number 5 wrote:There is absolutely nothing to be proud of tonight.

A bunch of professional footballers put in a decent shift to try and gain a result against possibly the greatest club side ever assembled.

And so they fucking should have. That's the minimum to expect and hardly anything to be proud of.

I would be proud if we had limited the amount of clear cut chances they created, put at least some kind of threat in at the other end.

What happended was, Barcelona waltzed through our team time and time again scoring 3 times but missing at least another 4 one on one's with the keeper.

I would be proud if there was some kind of tactical plan put together by our manager. Barcelona press high up the field and rush many players at the player in possession of the ball. There is acre's of room behind that initial wave. What, some kind of plan cannot be formulated to at least try and exploit this? Even Souness can see this.

I'm not disapointed with Arsenal tonight, but we went out with a wimper. As we have time and time again over recent years.

My expectations got fully adjusted about 3 seasons ago.

Proud. :?

Great post, we should have lost 8 nil, had zero shots and people are proud?? No wonder the club has a losers mentality :banghead:
Inter Milan had zero shots on target and zero shots off target at the nou camp last year.

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Number 5 wrote:
LDB wrote:Stick to eggball.
Its off season till September.
LDB wrote:I never thought they had that kind of backs-against-the-wall performance in them but they proved me wrong tonight
By conceeding 3 goals?

Man you gots some low expectations.
It must be so easy to just analyse a game of football by its final score. Did you even watch the game?

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Bring Back Pires wrote:I'm in the 'realist' camp, but I'm still proud of our performance over the tie. Last year we lost 6-3 on aggregate, and got completely smashed in both games.

This year, we got smashed in both games, but showed more resilience and grit and were able to hang in there. To think how much we were outplayed over the games, and to consider that we still only went out by one goal, speaks volumes (to me, at least).

Now toss in the fact that we had a player unfairly dismissed, and it doesn't look to be the disaster that it might.
I'm not painting disaster. Far from it. I have zero disapointment in me tonight.

Just lower expectations these days.

The players did the minimum they should. But little more.

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LDB wrote:
Number 5 wrote:
LDB wrote:Stick to eggball.
Its off season till September.
LDB wrote:I never thought they had that kind of backs-against-the-wall performance in them but they proved me wrong tonight
By conceeding 3 goals?

Man you gots some low expectations.
It must be so easy to just analyse a game of football by its final score. Did you even watch the game?
Yes sir, yes sir I did.

I recall our goalkeeper making at least 4 stops with an attacker one one against him. And a couple that went wide. I think Barca had 19 attempts overall?

That was expected and nothing to be ashamed of.

But backs to the wall it weren't. :?

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Number 5 wrote:
Bring Back Pires wrote:I'm in the 'realist' camp, but I'm still proud of our performance over the tie. Last year we lost 6-3 on aggregate, and got completely smashed in both games.

This year, we got smashed in both games, but showed more resilience and grit and were able to hang in there. To think how much we were outplayed over the games, and to consider that we still only went out by one goal, speaks volumes (to me, at least).

Now toss in the fact that we had a player unfairly dismissed, and it doesn't look to be the disaster that it might.
I'm not painting disaster. Far from it. I have zero disapointment in me tonight.

Just lower expectations these days.

The players did the minimum they should. But little more.
Fair enough, but I can't see another team in Europe (except maybe Real Madrid) being able to deal with Barcelona tonight. When they play like that, 99% of teams in the world wouldn't have a chance.

Considering we haven't even been the best team in England for seven years, I'd still maintain that we did better than many had predicted.
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LDB wrote:Inter Milan had zero shots on target and zero shots off target at the nou camp last year.
Now that was backs to the wall, mother fucker. 8)

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Number 5 wrote:There is absolutely nothing to be proud of tonight.

A bunch of professional footballers put in a decent shift to try and gain a result against possibly the greatest club side ever assembled.

And so they fucking should have. That's the minimum to expect and hardly anything to be proud of.

I would be proud if we had limited the amount of clear cut chances they created, put at least some kind of threat in at the other end.

What happended was, Barcelona waltzed through our team time and time again scoring 3 times but missing at least another 4 one on one's with the keeper.

I would be proud if there was some kind of tactical plan put together by our manager. Barcelona press high up the field and rush many players at the player in possession of the ball. There is acre's of room behind that initial wave. What, some kind of plan cannot be formulated to at least try and exploit this? Even Souness can see this.

I'm not disapointed with Arsenal tonight, but we went out with a wimper. As we have time and time again over recent years.

My expectations got fully adjusted about 3 seasons ago.

Proud. :?
i can see where you're coming from BUT - in the context of things, i think alot of us expected our fairies to come out, roll over, lose 4,/5/6 with the same failings as ever. ok so this did sort of happen anyway :lol: but you get what i mean. as someone else said, i didn't think we had that defensive performance in us against a team like barca. could you imagine us defending that well for our last 10 pl games? we probably wouldn't even lose another game out of the 10.

i can only dream. :cry:

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Bring Back Pires wrote:
Number 5 wrote:
Bring Back Pires wrote:I'm in the 'realist' camp, but I'm still proud of our performance over the tie. Last year we lost 6-3 on aggregate, and got completely smashed in both games.

This year, we got smashed in both games, but showed more resilience and grit and were able to hang in there. To think how much we were outplayed over the games, and to consider that we still only went out by one goal, speaks volumes (to me, at least).

Now toss in the fact that we had a player unfairly dismissed, and it doesn't look to be the disaster that it might.
I'm not painting disaster. Far from it. I have zero disapointment in me tonight.

Just lower expectations these days.

The players did the minimum they should. But little more.
Fair enough, but I can't see another team in Europe (except maybe Real Madrid) being able to deal with Barcelona tonight. When they play like that, 99% of teams in the world wouldn't have a chance.

Considering we haven't even been the best team in England for seven years, I'd still maintain that we did better than many had predicted.
Well yes, by why would some be proud of not being able to overturn a team that 99% of teams would be unable to?

This is what has me :?

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I can’t really say that I’m that proud of a display completely void of any kind of offensive endeavour. The players worked hard off the ball but disheartened by the lack of the quality on show. If we were a Bolton I would be proud but we have some quality players who often fail to produce their best when it matters most.

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Ted Baker wrote:i can see where you're coming from BUT - in the context of things, i think alot of us expected our fairies to come out, roll over, lose 4,/5/6 with the same failings as ever. ok so this did sort of happen anyway :lol: but you get what i mean. as someone else said, i didn't think we had that defensive performance in us against a team like barca. could you imagine us defending that well for our last 10 pl games? we probably wouldn't even lose another game out of the 10.

i can only dream. :cry:
So who do we play in our last 10 games that is going to attack us like the way Barca did tonight?

No-one.

Defenders defend better under that sort of onslaught, they are constantly having to be ready and always in the thick of the action.

Where Arsenal make errors defensively is when we do all the attacking and they get caught cold.

That is a more likely scenario for how we'll defend in the last 10 games.

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Number 5 wrote:
Bring Back Pires wrote:
Number 5 wrote:
Bring Back Pires wrote:I'm in the 'realist' camp, but I'm still proud of our performance over the tie. Last year we lost 6-3 on aggregate, and got completely smashed in both games.

This year, we got smashed in both games, but showed more resilience and grit and were able to hang in there. To think how much we were outplayed over the games, and to consider that we still only went out by one goal, speaks volumes (to me, at least).

Now toss in the fact that we had a player unfairly dismissed, and it doesn't look to be the disaster that it might.
I'm not painting disaster. Far from it. I have zero disapointment in me tonight.

Just lower expectations these days.

The players did the minimum they should. But little more.
Fair enough, but I can't see another team in Europe (except maybe Real Madrid) being able to deal with Barcelona tonight. When they play like that, 99% of teams in the world wouldn't have a chance.

Considering we haven't even been the best team in England for seven years, I'd still maintain that we did better than many had predicted.
Well yes, by why would some be proud of not being able to overturn a team that 99% of teams would be unable to?

This is what has me :?
I'm proud because we hung in there for the majority of the tie, and led the tie with 89% of it played.

Despite HUGE Barcelona pressure, especially in the second leg, our fragile defence didn't buckle easily, and Barca were made to wait before they were finally able to get the job done.

Last year we went there and got turned over. This time we went there and were on the verge of knocking them out.

I'm not saying that AW should stay for life, and that we're making gradual improvement which is acceptable - that's a load of bollocks. AW should leave in the summer and let someone with fresh ideas take over.

But as far as ties against Barcelona go, a one goal defeat isn't the end of the world, and I'm glad we made a close contest of it (scoreline-wise, if not matchplay-wise).
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Number 5 wrote:
Ted Baker wrote:i can see where you're coming from BUT - in the context of things, i think alot of us expected our fairies to come out, roll over, lose 4,/5/6 with the same failings as ever. ok so this did sort of happen anyway :lol: but you get what i mean. as someone else said, i didn't think we had that defensive performance in us against a team like barca. could you imagine us defending that well for our last 10 pl games? we probably wouldn't even lose another game out of the 10.

i can only dream. :cry:
So who do we play in our last 10 games that is going to attack us like the way Barca did tonight?

No-one.
No-one, yet the team we play next are battling relegation and put 3 past us on our own patch.

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Number 5 wrote:There is absolutely nothing to be proud of tonight.

A bunch of professional footballers put in a decent shift to try and gain a result against possibly the greatest club side ever assembled.

And so they fucking should have. That's the minimum to expect and hardly anything to be proud of.

I would be proud if we had limited the amount of clear cut chances they created, put at least some kind of threat in at the other end.

What happended was, Barcelona waltzed through our team time and time again scoring 3 times but missing at least another 4 one on one's with the keeper.

I would be proud if there was some kind of tactical plan put together by our manager. Barcelona press high up the field and rush many players at the player in possession of the ball. There is acre's of room behind that initial wave. What, some kind of plan cannot be formulated to at least try and exploit this? Even Souness can see this.

I'm not disapointed with Arsenal tonight, but we went out with a wimper. As we have time and time again over recent years.

My expectations got fully adjusted about 3 seasons ago.

Proud. :?
Great post Number 5.How many one on ones did Barca have against our keeper.If it was not for great keeping and woeful finishing it could have been 8 or 9.Alves their right back could have scored a hat trick.Proud to not have one shot on or off target by one of our own players is nothing to be proud of.The gulf in class was huge

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