The way to get their attention

[Dan_85]

What do you guys think about the mission statement?

I like Steveo's effort (edited by Quartz)

1.) To encourage the club to visibly invest in quality players, to allow Arsenal to compete for the major club competition trophies domestically and in Europe.

2.) To seek clarity over the club's youth policy, with particular regard to the policy of rewarding young players with long term contracts that have increased the club's annual wage bill yet not resulted in trophies.

3.) To understand the PLC's longer term vision and strategy. As supporters we have clear goals and ambitions, measured by winning trophies. As an organisation involved in various business sectors, but whose principle activity is a football club, we believe that this should also be the clear and measured objective of the PLC.

I just think we need to add something in about having to pay the highest ticket prices in the world. We should have a team to match this. I would perhaps say the board should either invest the money in the team or lower ticket prices. The planned 6-8% season ticket increase should help our cause.

Can you add a section stating that i'd like to be allowed to bring flares, smoke & fireworks into the ground? Thanks.

[franksav63]

this is one of the reasons why something like this will never take off.

the official forum who do have a big percentage of match goers ,

most are happy to just go with the flow.


http://forums.arsenal.com/eve/forums/a/ ... 3641002024

''I want to see this team stick together and see if it can realise the huge potential that is there and IMO it would be a shame if AW did not have the faith that he has shown so far about his team.''

Staggering... how much longer do they need, they're not pups anymore,

[MEDINABOY]

i hope im terribly wrong but i think th damage that aw and this board has done to what was once knwn as the arsenal is terminal.im not the first to say it but i dont recognise AFC anymore.they have taken everything the identity of the club and bastardised it.we are now following the flag and even that has changed.

[mikeyb772001]

this is one of the reasons why something like this will never take off.

the official forum who do have a big percentage of match goers ,

most are happy to just go with the flow.


http://forums.arsenal.com/eve/forums/a/ ... 3641002024

''I want to see this team stick together and see if it can realise the huge potential that is there and IMO it would be a shame if AW did not have the faith that he has shown so far about his team.''

Staggering... how much longer do they need, they're not pups anymore,

i just posted on that thread. Dont think i will make many friends haha

[1989]

What do you guys think about the mission statement?

I like Steveo's effort (edited by Quartz)

1.) To encourage the club to visibly invest in quality players, to allow Arsenal to compete for the major club competition trophies domestically and in Europe.

2.) To seek clarity over the club's youth policy, with particular regard to the policy of rewarding young players with long term contracts that have increased the club's annual wage bill yet not resulted in trophies.

3.) To understand the PLC's longer term vision and strategy. As supporters we have clear goals and ambitions, measured by winning trophies. As an organisation involved in various business sectors, but whose principle activity is a football club, we believe that this should also be the clear and measured objective of the PLC.

I just think we need to add something in about having to pay the highest ticket prices in the world. We should have a team to match this. I would perhaps say the board should either invest the money in the team or lower ticket prices. The planned 6-8% season ticket increase should help our cause.

Maybe stick this in somewhere in there?

"As the highest paying fans in world football, we expect our views on club matters to be taken seriously."

[Arsenal 1991]

this is one of the reasons why something like this will never take off.

the official forum who do have a big percentage of match goers ,

most are happy to just go with the flow.


http://forums.arsenal.com/eve/forums/a/ ... 3641002024

''I want to see this team stick together and see if it can realise the huge potential that is there and IMO it would be a shame if AW did not have the faith that he has shown so far about his team.''

Staggering... how much longer do they need, they're not pups anymore,

i just posted on that thread. Dont think i will make many friends haha

Can someone on the .com forum set them straight about the protest group, maybe post the 3 points.

[worthing_gooner]

Bloody hell, logged off yesterday at 4 when the thread was on page 3 haha.

I've read through the whole thing this morning and I'm 100% behind this now. I'm not a Wenger nut but I do still think he's the man for the job, I just want a little more pressure put on him to sort out the playing side and I get the impression that's the general consensus.

I think the very fact this isn't a "wenger out" thing will gain huge support for the cause, as whether you're pro or anti wenger, I've yet to meet an arsenal fan who can't see that the squad needs investment.

I also love the banner, Arsenal FC not PLC. As far as I'm aware there's nothing stopping you using the Arsenal FC name as this is what we are referring to, we're not trying to use the name for unrelated business activities and we're not using the name to make profit. Even if copyright is infringed, it'll be a case of taking it down rather than going to jail!

So yeah I'm right behind the cause here, good work guys

[REB]

brain dead sheep mikey

[franksav63]

this is one of the reasons why something like this will never take off.

the official forum who do have a big percentage of match goers ,

most are happy to just go with the flow.


http://forums.arsenal.com/eve/forums/a/ ... 3641002024

''I want to see this team stick together and see if it can realise the huge potential that is there and IMO it would be a shame if AW did not have the faith that he has shown so far about his team.''

Staggering... how much longer do they need, they're not pups anymore,

i just posted on that thread. Dont think i will make many friends haha

Ha ha.. just spotted that, I didn't realise that the original thread was from 2008, Jumpers from Goalposts is on the first page saying that he is a Wenger fan, I don't believe that's the case now though..

Nice work Mikey...

[clockendal]

Very interesting reading on here. Be interesting to see what comes of it..

One quick point, seemingly we want the club to spend money on signing quality players yes ? And currently the club don't do that because they feel (IMO) that the market is over inflated and they will not get value ?

So making a very public protest whereby we are saying "Spend Some Fcuking Money" would that not play into other clubs hands a bit ? ie Bolton may have already been asking for 15M for Cahill would now seek to get 20M ? And then what the club feel pressured to spend 20M to sign Gary Cahill ? We give them 20M for Cahill ? Just thinking "out loud"

I certainly agree that there are areas to be looked into, but would echo the sentiments of others that this movement needs real focus and clairty as to it's aims. And would certainly avoid any media involvement as I don't think it will catch on until there is a real focus as to what it's about.

Would it make more sense to align with the BSM and have one group ?

[gunner_ace]

I posted after the newcastle game saying he should go. I regretted that afterwords thinking maybe I was too harsh, what if we win something.

How we dared to believe (again) and how we were all to predictably let down (again). Here we are in March again with fuck all to play for. Fuck all this "now we can focus on winning the league" as its bullshit, if a team cant focus on holding a 4 goal lead with 20 minutes to go, then what chance the league?

I still dont want to see Wenger go as I personally think hes the best man for the job, but dammit man listen to every fecking person with a pair of eyes who says "buy, buy buy" and bin half of this lot. I want to see a wholesale clearout in June, with a massive 3-4 player investment in August.

Clearly this wont happen, so I guess he needs to go. end of. I cant take another season of such great August hope and feburary tradegy.

If he dosent do the decent thing and walk then I will be quite sad if it takes something like all of these talked about protests and direct action for him to leave. It will be a black page in the illustrius history of the club.

[marcengels]

The problem is that if you give Wenger the job, then you should let him get on with it in whatever way he want's to do it. We can criticise along the way, and question, but one can't cherry pick things they like about the guy and what they don't.

If he's not investing properly in the team, in the right kind of players, and producing players who do actually have "mental strength", despite us paying the highest season ticket prices, then one has to question his position completely.

This protest is based upon the fact that Arsene is the right man, if only he would spend money? I would contest that actually many people seem to feel he is no longer the man to take the club on, in many areas, and that you either accept his ways, or look to a replacement.

[worthing_gooner]

The problem is that if you give Wenger the job, then you should let him get on with it in whatever way he want's to do it. We can criticise along the way, and question, but one can't cherry pick things they like about the guy and what they don't.

If he's not investing properly in the team, in the right kind of players, and producing players who do actually have "mental strength", despite us paying the highest season ticket prices, then one has to question his position completely.

This protest is based upon the fact that Arsene is the right man, if only he would spend money? I would contest that actually many people seem to feel he is no longer the man to take the club on, in many areas, and that you either accept his ways, or look to a replacement.

I understand the point you're making there mate but my personal opinion is that Wenger has shown in the past he's not afraid to spend a bit of money. Back in the day we signed Wiltord for £13m, Reyes for £10.5m, Thierry Henry for £11m, Walcott for £12m, Pires for £6m, he's clearly not averse to spending a bit of cash so I don't get the deal over the last three-four years.

What the group needs to ask for, and what it appears from the thread is the case, is a bit of clarity as to where exactly this cash is, our cash which we spend on the most expensive seats in the country, and why it hasn't been spent on the glaring deficiencies in the squad.

Whether or not wenger is the man to lead us forward is neither here nor there as long as money is invested in the squad, which clearly it has not been over the last few years for whatever reason.

[augie]

Very interesting reading on here. Be interesting to see what comes of it..

One quick point, seemingly we want the club to spend money on signing quality players yes ? And currently the club don't do that because they feel (IMO) that the market is over inflated and they will not get value ?

So making a very public protest whereby we are saying "Spend Some Fcuking Money" would that not play into other clubs hands a bit ? ie Bolton may have already been asking for 15M for Cahill would now seek to get 20M ? And then what the club feel pressured to spend 20M to sign Gary Cahill ? We give them 20M for Cahill ? Just thinking "out loud"

I certainly agree that there are areas to be looked into, but would echo the sentiments of others that this movement needs real focus and clairty as to it's aims. And would certainly avoid any media involvement as I don't think it will catch on until there is a real focus as to what it's about.

Would it make more sense to align with the BSM and have one group ?

See even this "over inflated market" argument (from the club and not you al) gets right on my tits Wenger and the club are well able to exploit the market when it comes to selling (kolo and greedy to man shitty and looking for 60m for cesc) but yet expect selling clubs to bend over for our cheapskate bullshit

[SteveO 35]

The problem is that if you give Wenger the job, then you should let him get on with it in whatever way he want's to do it. We can criticise along the way, and question, but one can't cherry pick things they like about the guy and what they don't.

If he's not investing properly in the team, in the right kind of players, and producing players who do actually have "mental strength", despite us paying the highest season ticket prices, then one has to question his position completely.

This protest is based upon the fact that Arsene is the right man, if only he would spend money? I would contest that actually many people seem to feel he is no longer the man to take the club on, in many areas, and that you either accept his ways, or look to a replacement.

I understand the point you're making there mate but my personal opinion is that Wenger has shown in the past he's not afraid to spend a bit of money. Back in the day we signed Wiltord for £13m, Reyes for £10.5m, Thierry Henry for £11m, Walcott for £12m, Pires for £6m, he's clearly not averse to spending a bit of cash so I don't get the deal over the last three-four years.

What the group needs to ask for, and what it appears from the thread is the case, is a bit of clarity as to where exactly this cash is, our cash which we spend on the most expensive seats in the country, and why it hasn't been spent on the glaring deficiencies in the squad.

Whether or not wenger is the man to lead us forward is neither here nor there as long as money is invested in the squad, which clearly it has not been over the last few years for whatever reason.

All of the deals you mention were before the stadium move and the new debt structure at the club. I take on board people not wanting to incorporate my point about the club's property interests in my 3 point objectives list. However, I think it's fundamentally linked to the core question I have for Arsenal FC's shareholders and executive management team:

"What is the strategic goal for Arsenal FC ?"

When I read the board minutes and annual reports and accounts it is clear to me that the main (or at least equal) objective has nothing to do with football and everything to do with property development. Trust me there are 1000 "propco's" that I would invest in before Arsenal Holdings.

The investment strategy on the football side has been sacrificied whilst the property portfolio has been developed and realised. Fact. The club chose not to appoint a property outsourcer / developer in managing these affairs which means the resource has to come from within. At best that is a distraction to the club's core ambition to be a successful football club; at worse it is at the expense of (and nothing since 2006 has made me change my opinion).