Stick with Shez or new keeper.

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mcdowell42 wrote:He fucked up for the penalty but he played well otherwise

He fcuked up for the penno big time but what concerns me a load more is that he never came out and caught any high ball from their set pieces to help lift the pressure. We need a commanding keeper esp given our woeful inability to defend from set pieces :oops: :oops: :oops:

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We have much more pressing need to strengthen in defence & especially midfield.

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augie wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:He fucked up for the penalty but he played well otherwise

He fcuked up for the penno big time but what concerns me a load more is that he never came out and caught any high ball from their set pieces to help lift the pressure. We need a commanding keeper esp given our woeful inability to defend from set pieces :oops: :oops: :oops:
Punching balls he should have caught

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Surprised no one has picked up on his kicking.

Its fucking erratic.

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augie wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:He fucked up for the penalty but he played well otherwise

He fcuked up for the penno big time but what concerns me a load more is that he never came out and caught any high ball from their set pieces to help lift the pressure. We need a commanding keeper esp given our woeful inability to defend from set pieces :oops: :oops: :oops:
I agree here - I think he was too nervous today(maybe down to his twitter comments and knowing he would look really bad if we didn't win now).


The thing about the pen is this - a 20-year old keeper will make a play like that sooner or later unless they have featured in goal since
they were 17. Every young goalkeeper makes that play. I think that shows that while he may become a really good keeper sooner rather than later that the Premier League is not for player development. He should be our number two keeper for a year or two or we should significantly upgrade our number two so that if or even when he falters like that again.

We can't have Szcezsny as our Number Tow let alone number one with the other keepers here - period. Fabianski is older and does not look to have advanced beyond where Szcezsny is now, and Almunia's problem- well one of many - is he is ten years older and almost certainly would have made the same exact mistake.

Szcezsny will be fine, but I think this shows he will not be David Seaman or Jens Lehmann straight away if ever. And that is what we need for a number one - especially now looking at the lack of quality in the defence on front of him the defensive midfielders protecting them.

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Number 5 wrote:Surprised no one has picked up on his kicking.

Its fucking erratic.
Agreed.

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If someone of Buffon's quality and experience is available at a reasonable price then great, but there are not many out there better than szcz

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1989 wrote:
Number 5 wrote:Surprised no one has picked up on his kicking.

Its fucking erratic.
Agreed.
Not only is it erratic but he has a tendency not to survey his options before booting it. There was one point this evening where Theo was in acres of space on the wing but Wojciech chose to boot it straight up the middle & those lilywhite *word censored* got it back immediately.

He's a good keeper for sure, i'd still have Stekelenburg as number 1 though...

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COME BACK ALMUNIA!!! we love you. :barscarf:

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Post by FrenchGun »

Schezzer is a very promising keeper, for once. One thing is for sure, he's rock solid! He got Bale's knee in the face and stood up straight away while bale was picking up his knee. The way he went into him and then winked at his team-mates was magnificent!

On the pen, yes he's at fault but as said he's young, and at this stage what reassured me was that he took his decision and went for it! The worst keepers are the one who can't make a decision, the "two steps forward, one step backward" ones.

We've had a pletoria of GK who all tried their best to make us forget what "confidence" means, now that we have one who seems to show some balls some say he's not good enough.

I'd have a rather old experienced GK in the summer to be our number 1 and prepare Schezzer for the number 1 spot in a few years. If we stick with schezzer as our no 1, it would be once again a big gamble, considering who deputise behind...

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big al :barscarf: :barscarf:

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Post by worthing gooner »

Keepers are meant to win you 10 points a season on their own in order to win titles, the lad doesnt lack confidence but he still needs to learn from someone. You could see the pen coming from a mile off, poor decision making at key moments. Buffon all out for me.

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Post by Barriecuda »

Shez, definitely. Unless we get a quality, experienced vet that can give us 1-3 years while Shez develops. Buffon would be a really good fit with our needs.

Shezzer is a beauty though, love his confidence and shot stopping ability. Just needs some guidance and he could become great.

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applying the rationale that chesney lacks experience to be a no 1 , it would follow that those of that belief would have held back jack.

chesney will be world class. putting him reserves for two years will not help him or arsenal. his pros outweigh the cons. he should be no 1. what is needed is someone like lehmann as an experienced no 2 who has been there done that and can come him for occasional game confident in his own abilityand experience and who is trusted by all, while behind the scenes helping ches smooth out the rough edges.

someone like schwartzer, friedel sorensen not brilliant but coming to end of careers and maybe willing to take on that role.

funnily enough van der saar-available at end of season -would be perfect choice and a role that would suit him as he no longer wishes to play week in week out.

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He is the future but he is being thrown in at the deep end behind an absolute shambles.

If Buffon was available I would take him and allow Scezceny to develop at his own pace while the defence and mentality of how we defend as a unit gets sorted out.

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