How to make sense of Nasri situation
- RoyalGunner
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How to make sense of Nasri situation
When Arsene first showed interest in Nasri, he knew he had first-class potential and it wouldn't take long to coach him into a truly brilliant player. A player who the team desperately needed to find, in finally eplacing the quite amazing Robert Pires.
After all what a perfect fit: another dazzling frenchman, a prodigy in france since the young age of 10.
No matter your thoughts and feelings torward Nasri at the moment, he is a player we cannot afford to lose.
With next to no information regarding what will happen... only a couple of weeks to decide his future... continued silence only leans closer to the inevitable road, selling him...a day that would be as saddened as was glory, the day he was signed.
I would like to hear all your thoughts on the matter and how you feel towards Nasri.
I personally believe Arsenal must increase their current offer to reach a figure closer to his expectations. Let's face it, He is a leader to this team, and a star in the premier...he needs to get paid for it eventually. He, as Fabregas, and our most influential player, Van Persie are players who must be paid as they are worth. Until we focus on spending most of our funds on keeping the clubs best players, we will have to wait 5 years more to find any success.
After all what a perfect fit: another dazzling frenchman, a prodigy in france since the young age of 10.
No matter your thoughts and feelings torward Nasri at the moment, he is a player we cannot afford to lose.
With next to no information regarding what will happen... only a couple of weeks to decide his future... continued silence only leans closer to the inevitable road, selling him...a day that would be as saddened as was glory, the day he was signed.
I would like to hear all your thoughts on the matter and how you feel towards Nasri.
I personally believe Arsenal must increase their current offer to reach a figure closer to his expectations. Let's face it, He is a leader to this team, and a star in the premier...he needs to get paid for it eventually. He, as Fabregas, and our most influential player, Van Persie are players who must be paid as they are worth. Until we focus on spending most of our funds on keeping the clubs best players, we will have to wait 5 years more to find any success.
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Nasri had one brilliant spell for the first half of this season in his whole career at Arsenal. Now he wants top dollar with vague threats of leaving if he doesn't get it. I've had enough of these people. If he doesn't like it, then fine find somewhere else. He's another one who has flashes of brilliance but doesn't seem to have the commitment to knuckle down when things get tough, who would rather look elsewhere than look at himself and his carefree attitude. If he stays which one will we see - the pocket genius or the half-arsed dilettante?
- SpanishJoe
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I like Nasri as a player (though I disagree about him being a leader).
However, once a player states publicly that he's not sure about staying, implies that ManU's an option etc I want to punch him.
For any player to make these threats openly to try and get more money is vile and I believe it says something about the man himself. How could any of us believe that he feels strongly about the club ever again? Equally, wanting parity with Cesc is ridiculous (if the reports are true) and suggests he has an overinflated idea of his importance.
His performances in the second half of the season were barely average.
I like his talent and potential but I don't like him and while I know that there's not much room for principles in football I don't want to see him in an Arsenal shirt again.
However, once a player states publicly that he's not sure about staying, implies that ManU's an option etc I want to punch him.
For any player to make these threats openly to try and get more money is vile and I believe it says something about the man himself. How could any of us believe that he feels strongly about the club ever again? Equally, wanting parity with Cesc is ridiculous (if the reports are true) and suggests he has an overinflated idea of his importance.
His performances in the second half of the season were barely average.
I like his talent and potential but I don't like him and while I know that there's not much room for principles in football I don't want to see him in an Arsenal shirt again.
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Got to admit that I do not buy that. I am as cynical as the next one but I think it is what it is in relation to the timing.mrgnu1958 wrote:Funny how the NASRI SITUATION has come to the fore AFTER Season Ticket Renewal time eh..![]()
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SUPRISE! SUPRISE!!
Its obvious hes going but the club stopped him making his comments until After june 1
Nasri -
- A very very good player at times
- A very ordinary/ineffective player at times
- Not a leader
- Certainly one of our best players
- Can't blame him for wanting to move because of ambition
- Complete Arsehole if he wants to move just because of money
- One decent half of a season does not make him worth the same money
as Cesc
- Total *word censored* for how he handled the French interview. When asked about Man U he should have said 'I'm an Arsenal player and am discussing my contract with Arsenal'
Overall opinion - If it's down to money, offer him 90k a week. If he says it's not enough then sell him in the next two weeks so we can go after Ashley Young. If he says it's down to ambition, then wave goodbye because Wenger will be signing bargain freebies or cheap players again this summer and I don't blame any Arsenal player for being fed up with the lack of ambition of Wenger and the board.
- A very very good player at times
- A very ordinary/ineffective player at times
- Not a leader
- Certainly one of our best players
- Can't blame him for wanting to move because of ambition
- Complete Arsehole if he wants to move just because of money
- One decent half of a season does not make him worth the same money
as Cesc
- Total *word censored* for how he handled the French interview. When asked about Man U he should have said 'I'm an Arsenal player and am discussing my contract with Arsenal'
Overall opinion - If it's down to money, offer him 90k a week. If he says it's not enough then sell him in the next two weeks so we can go after Ashley Young. If he says it's down to ambition, then wave goodbye because Wenger will be signing bargain freebies or cheap players again this summer and I don't blame any Arsenal player for being fed up with the lack of ambition of Wenger and the board.
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flash gunner wrote:Mr. knows empire is crumbling around him and WE are the ones who will suffer. All you AKB's should hang your heads in shame
Its been crumbling for the last 6 years. Any player with half a brain has seen this and that’s why they leave. They mask the reasons why they leave to make it look like its money so it doesn’t hurt the club.
Let the crumbling continue and let the AKB’s come out with the same shit like “who else would do a better jobâ€
- lagerisgood1981
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It's bad enough when players express their desire to play for foreign clubs, in an attempt to manufacture a move away, but when it's one of our biggest rivals it's simply unforgivable.
As time moves on it doesn't even seem like his interview has been misinterpreted.
Decent start to the season, but tailed off and never looked that bothered. The one on one to put us 2-1 v Bolton sums his second half of the season up.
We'll see, but my guess is he'll be off but not necessarily to united.
As time moves on it doesn't even seem like his interview has been misinterpreted.
Decent start to the season, but tailed off and never looked that bothered. The one on one to put us 2-1 v Bolton sums his second half of the season up.
We'll see, but my guess is he'll be off but not necessarily to united.
Don't forget early in season him bottling out of taking a pen against Sunderland (i think), leaving it to rosicky whe then missed.lagerisgood1981 wrote:It's bad enough when players express their desire to play for foreign clubs, in an attempt to manufacture a move away, but when it's one of our biggest rivals it's simply unforgivable.
As time moves on it doesn't even seem like his interview has been misinterpreted.
Decent start to the season, but tailed off and never looked that bothered. The one on one to put us 2-1 v Bolton sums his second half of the season up.We'll see, but my guess is he'll be off but not necessarily to united.
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- flash gunner
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I will make sense of it all for you:-
He is just the latest in a growing line of players who feel Wenger isnt the right man to manage a team they play for. They have no loyalty to Arsenal FC and why should they? He has a contract which he is willing to see out, now if the club want to cash in and sell him now then that will be their choice but Nasri has done nothing wrong and is seemingly happy to see it out till next summer
He is just the latest in a growing line of players who feel Wenger isnt the right man to manage a team they play for. They have no loyalty to Arsenal FC and why should they? He has a contract which he is willing to see out, now if the club want to cash in and sell him now then that will be their choice but Nasri has done nothing wrong and is seemingly happy to see it out till next summer
think he is pretty jumped up. He stopped performing after febuary, now before this season, he'd hide in games, be a passenger in away games.
He thinks he is as important as Cesc, he's having a giraffe. I'll rather he stay, but if he thinks he can bully us into giving him 120k, let him go.
Its an amazing situation, players have been coached to believe they're fantastic, fail as a team, players claim they're are in effect, too good for a team that wins nothing, when they are part of the reason.
Looks like Arsene's social experiment has produced some unforseen results and he wont like what he has created.
He thinks he is as important as Cesc, he's having a giraffe. I'll rather he stay, but if he thinks he can bully us into giving him 120k, let him go.
Its an amazing situation, players have been coached to believe they're fantastic, fail as a team, players claim they're are in effect, too good for a team that wins nothing, when they are part of the reason.
Looks like Arsene's social experiment has produced some unforseen results and he wont like what he has created.
My take on Nasri...
The son of immigrants in Marseille, took his chance to make something of himself by becoming a professional footballer. Played for France at every youth level, and got to play for his local club, OM.
At 17 he was already being scouted by other teams, so Marseille got him to sign a 3 year contract, to keep him at Marseille. This was summer 2004.
Marseille had had problems with a certain M. Flamini, who left them after letting his contract run down, and OM didn't want that to happen again.
Season 2004/05 was average, with OM finishing 5th.
Season 2005/06 OM again finished 5th, so no Champions League football, and lost in the Final of the French Cup to PSG, their biggest rival.
Nasri signed a contract extension that summer - for obviously more cash, but also, imo, with the hope that OM would improve their position, as they had signed Ribery and Cisse in that season, and things looked good.
Season 2006/07 went reasonably well, with OM losing the Final of the French Cup to Sochaux, after having been big favourites, and then finishing 2nd to Lyon in the League, but their best player - Ribery - left for Bayern.
Season 2007/08 they finished 3rd in the League, and got knocked out in the group stages of the Champions League, and then got knocked out of the Europa League.
He signed another contract with OM even though he knew that he was going to leave, because he wanted to make sure that his home-town team would get a reasonable transfer fee.
Summer of 2008 Wenger wanted to take him away from perpetual disappointment at a team that was happy with 2nd place, and couldn't hold on to it's best players, so signed a 4 year contract with The Arsenal.
Hmmm, Nasri has now realised that The Arsenal are exactly the same, a Club with limited ambitions, and wants to leave to a team where he can win trophies.
I think he won't sign another contract, as he has no loyalty to The Arsenal ( don't blame him for this - much ) , and he will be off.
He was decent enough to sign a 4 year contract, with the hope that his new team would win trophies, sign world class players, and show real ambition, but sadly it hasn't turned out that way and so I don't blame him.
If he continues at The Arsenal then his whole career might end up as a perpetual loser, and he doesn't want that.
Who can blame him?
The son of immigrants in Marseille, took his chance to make something of himself by becoming a professional footballer. Played for France at every youth level, and got to play for his local club, OM.
At 17 he was already being scouted by other teams, so Marseille got him to sign a 3 year contract, to keep him at Marseille. This was summer 2004.
Marseille had had problems with a certain M. Flamini, who left them after letting his contract run down, and OM didn't want that to happen again.
Season 2004/05 was average, with OM finishing 5th.
Season 2005/06 OM again finished 5th, so no Champions League football, and lost in the Final of the French Cup to PSG, their biggest rival.
Nasri signed a contract extension that summer - for obviously more cash, but also, imo, with the hope that OM would improve their position, as they had signed Ribery and Cisse in that season, and things looked good.
Season 2006/07 went reasonably well, with OM losing the Final of the French Cup to Sochaux, after having been big favourites, and then finishing 2nd to Lyon in the League, but their best player - Ribery - left for Bayern.
Season 2007/08 they finished 3rd in the League, and got knocked out in the group stages of the Champions League, and then got knocked out of the Europa League.
He signed another contract with OM even though he knew that he was going to leave, because he wanted to make sure that his home-town team would get a reasonable transfer fee.
Summer of 2008 Wenger wanted to take him away from perpetual disappointment at a team that was happy with 2nd place, and couldn't hold on to it's best players, so signed a 4 year contract with The Arsenal.
Hmmm, Nasri has now realised that The Arsenal are exactly the same, a Club with limited ambitions, and wants to leave to a team where he can win trophies.
I think he won't sign another contract, as he has no loyalty to The Arsenal ( don't blame him for this - much ) , and he will be off.
He was decent enough to sign a 4 year contract, with the hope that his new team would win trophies, sign world class players, and show real ambition, but sadly it hasn't turned out that way and so I don't blame him.
If he continues at The Arsenal then his whole career might end up as a perpetual loser, and he doesn't want that.
Who can blame him?