Terracing at the E*******

61NeverAgain · Post by **61NeverAgain** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:12 pm

Taken from Arseblog

Ivan Gazidis has revealed that he is in favour of Arsenal exploring further the possibility of incorporating a safe standing area at the Emirates.

Speaking at a question and answer session with the Arsenal Supporters Trust the Gunners CEO stressed that it was right for a debate to take place about the return of terracing so long as it did not compromise the safety of spectators.

â€œIt is something that I have always been open to,â€

frankbutcher · Post by **frankbutcher** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:15 pm

Will never happen. The law would need to change. Would the plod allow it..?

What do you reckon?

Gunnersaurus · Post by **Gunnersaurus** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:16 pm

Are you really that gullible?

The king of spin was saying what people wanted to hear to keep people passive.

Standing is banned, he knows he can explore it but until the law changes that's all he can do.

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:19 pm

frankbutcher wrote:Will never happen. The law would need to change. Would the plod allow it..?

What do you reckon?

More and more is getting done.

The FSF have a roadshow, petition (

) etc. going.

Don Foster MP raised it in Parliament this year and sent a bill round. It is a Lib Dem policy to allow it.

I could see AFC doing it. Charge about 60 70 percent of a current North Bank Lower seat but you could get in approximately double the people, more money so they will be happy.

However the government are simply useless.

Sent a long letter to my MP, she sent me back one and one from the Olympics Minister. I replied pointing out the myriad technical faults that they had included in their letters, and got no reply.

Babu · Post by **Babu** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:19 pm

61NeverAgain wrote:Taken from Arseblog

Ivan Gazidis ...

â€œThe more I learn about it, the more complex an issue it is,

Yeah, really complex.

People stand in huge terraces in Germany, people stand in the lower leagues in England. What exactly is the complexity here?

The powers that be don't want it, and IG is just turning on the bullshite so that the AST go home and don't raise the subject again for a few months.

P.S. Please let me be 100% wrong on this one. Please!

Babu · Post by **Babu** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:21 pm

61NeverAgain wrote: Over the course of the last eighteen years the enforced changes have been credited for the increased number of women and children attending matches and for a marked drop in hooliganism.

Yeah really! Bloody all-seater Stadiums. BOO!!!

Dan_85 · Post by **Dan_85** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:22 pm

The cynic in me says its no more than a ploy from Ivan to curry favour. He knows full well that in all likelihood he'll be long gone from the job when (if) safe standing ever becomes a real possibility.

61NeverAgain · Post by **61NeverAgain** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:23 pm

If this meant they could screw more Â£Â£Â£Â£Â£Â£Â£Â£Â£ out of the fans by squeezing more 'customers' into the ground, I reckon the club would happily push the idea.

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:26 pm

SWLGooner wrote: I could see AFC doing it. Charge about 60 70 percent of a current North Bank Lower seat but you could get in approximately double the people, more money so they will be happy.

If the majority of Premier League clubs got together to push the issue it could tempt the government to change the law.

A populist measure for the electorate, and more gate receipt revenue means more tax revenue.

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:35 pm

QuartzGooner wrote:
SWLGooner wrote: I could see AFC doing it. Charge about 60 70 percent of a current North Bank Lower seat but you could get in approximately double the people, more money so they will be happy.
If the majority of Premier League clubs got together to push the issue it could tempt the government to change the law.

A populist measure for the electorate, and more gate receipt revenue means more tax revenue.

I've got a semi

Bring Back Pires · Post by **Bring Back Pires** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:37 pm

Incidentally, would people be willing to pay Â£35+ to stand up?

Because I really can't see them replacing seats like-for-like with cheaper standing tickets.

1886 · Post by **1886** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:39 pm

I'd love to see standing come back to the top flight but I really don't see it happening anytime soon

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:45 pm

Bring Back Pires wrote:Incidentally, would people be willing to pay Â£35+ to stand up?

Because I really can't see them replacing seats like-for-like with cheaper standing tickets.

Standing tickets a bit cheaper but you get more people in the same area so make more money than if it was seats.

safcftm · Post by **safcftm** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:52 pm

I've always thought its a bit pointless. I love standing at games, but will safe standing really be all that good? You still have to have your seat (well, not seat, but you know what i mean), you cant just rock up with a load of the lads and go anywhere you fancy which is one of the great things about "traditional" terraces and, whilst you are standing, there would be no surges as the team attacks etc. I just think it would be an incredibly sterile version of "the real thing" and the novelty would wear off very quickly. Plus you'd have the same miserable PC twats moaning at you for swearing because you can guarantee the fuckers would get into the standing bit, they get everywhere that mob. I think a lot of the time people think of a return to terracing and they think back to what terracing was like and think "that'd be great", this most likely wont be, it'll be a sterile, overcontrolled, soulless atmosphere that will take a lot of money and effort to make happen and i'm just not too sure that there would be great benefits.

It might keep ticket prices down a bit i suppose, but currently i stand at the SoL anyway and I'm not convinced safe standing would be any better than doing that, other than not having to tell a steward to fuck off every so often

Dan_85 · Post by **Dan_85** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:02 pm

Bring Back Pires wrote:Incidentally, would people be willing to pay Â£35+ to stand up?

Because I really can't see them replacing seats like-for-like with cheaper standing tickets.

This concerns me too. Even if standing was introduced I can imagine Arsenal charging the same price as they do for sitting

Â£20 would be a fair price for all parties I think, perhaps Â£25 tops. Say you take out 10,000 seats you can whack about 15,000 standing in that space.

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