Transfer Rumours Thread

mikeyb772001 · Post by **mikeyb772001** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:35 pm

TeeCee wrote:Wenger's had a 6 fookin' year holiday!! He should have been away a couple of days after the season ended, not in prime transfer time..............considering how busy we're going to be

Wenger is back soon, but many players have only just gone. Cesc included. So we will have a summer of waiting.

what a manager we have. I have never had so much hatred for anyone at the arsenal.

*word censored* of the very highest order

frankbutcher · Post by **frankbutcher** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:53 pm

This is exactly what is wrong with our Club...

We face probably the most crucial period in the last 5 years. A period where we MUST get in the right players if we are to keep in the top 4, let alone have aspirations of winning the League.

............And guess what? Arsene's gone on holiday. Absolutely unbelievable. I know he needs a holiday, but why not sign the fucking players before they sign somewhere else, then go off for a couple of weeks?

I'm lost for words.

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:03 pm

frankbutcher wrote: Arsene's gone on holiday. Absolutely unbelievable.

You started a thread during the season saying Wenger was suffering from stress.

So as you admit, he needs a holiday.
Probably more so after the shambles of a season we have just had, and after the probable domestic upheaval he has had this year.

I do not begrudge him a holiday at all.

He needs to spend a little time away from the routine, it is often when clarity can occur.

I also doubt he would do nothing at all when away.
He would have phone and email contact with the club staff at all times in case a deal is in the offing, and would have instructed Gazidis and Friar to get on with deals before he went away.

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:05 pm

If you listen to USMARTY then its the board who sign the players so who needs wenger

frankbutcher · Post by **frankbutcher** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:07 pm

QuartzGooner wrote:
frankbutcher wrote: Arsene's gone on holiday. Absolutely unbelievable.
You started a thread during the season saying Wenger was suffering from stress.

So as you admit, he needs a holiday.
Probably more so after the shambles of a season we have just had, and after the probable domestic upheaval he has had this year.

I do not begrudge him a holiday at all.

He needs to spend a little time away from the routine, it is often when clarity can occur.

I also doubt he would do nothing at all when away.
He would have phone and email contact with the club staff at all times in case a deal is in the offing, and would have instructed Gazidis and Friar to get on with deals before he went away.

I said he needs a holiday, but why do it now? The boat is already sailing on most of our transfer targets as he suns himself somewhere.

I don't trust Gazidis and Friar to do anything transfer related. It's like leaving Rodney and Grandad in charge of the market stall.

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:26 pm

When else should he take a holiday?

If most of the players are away, then it is a decent time.
My hunch is there is an unofficial "holiday period" in the summer when managers, players and agents, by and large go away at the same time to preserve their sanity.

In early July he will be back for pre-season training, it is under two weeks away.

TeeCee · Post by **TeeCee** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:21 am

He should go on holiday just after the season ends. That way he comes back fresh when the UK window opens. Instead, he fucked off to work for French TV again at the end of the season. He needs to sort his priorities out - strengthening this team should have been the priority for the last 6 years but all we get is excuses and apathy. I totally agree he needs a holiday but it's yet more piss poor planning if Arsenal do have any genuine plans to sign UK based players this summer. Gazidis has already said Wenger has the say in transfers so there really are no excuses.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:38 am

Therproblem with the holiday issue is this - where is the man in dcharge ot the club now? The man the ssame people who insisted on giving the Board chance after chance to prove it had Arsenal Fc's best interests at heart r9ight up iuntil they showed where their heartliess by selling shares of the club the had a lifetime commitment to protec tingtiong for miulti-million pound personal profits.

Oh that's right he's too busy with his other sports franchises

http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2011/6/21/ ... in-chicago

They are more important to him than Arsenal and they chose to sell to someone too busy to run the club and they called him a safe custodian...right...

The whole fucking club is on vacation because everyone has been workign the ass off cashing in...a lot of you are getting just what you wanted apparently because you trusted and continue to trust in those same people and are too damened resepctful of them to ever get the same respect back in return.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:40 am

And they knew all about his other commitments and the fact the NFKL would be negotiating and new CBA all summer when they chose to cash in. This wasn't something they could't see coming or didn't expect. It just never mattered to them. I Wonder why....

TeeCee · Post by **TeeCee** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:48 am

Kroenke has got nothing to do with the transfers so he doesn't need to be around. Gazidis does the initial deal and reports back to Wenger with a valuation, Wenger then gives his opinion on whether it's a worthwhile deal to pursue. Same old story, everything revolves around our muppet of a manager and nothing gets done without his say so.

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:01 am

I agree with TC.

Martin, none of us are expecting Kroenke to work on Arsenal-related stuff 24/7. He has got other projects.

And as well as this, do we really want our owner getting heavily involved in transfers? I think not.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:33 am

SWLGooner wrote:I agree with TC.

Martin, none of us are expecting Kroenke to work on Arsenal-related stuff 24/7. He has got other projects.

And as well as this, do we really want our owner getting heavily involved in transfers? I think not.

Nobidy said he needs to be involved directly intransfers but one would suspect that the club's owner - even if adhering to the self-sustaining business model should be involved with making sure the manager has every penny availabkle to him and the backing to use it as is best for the team. Would you seriously rather have Peter Hill-Wood and Ivan Gaxzidis making those decisions as they have the last several years.

Hell, for all those Arsene Wenger refuses to spend the money people what pressure is he under to spend it now if his new employer is too busy with other projects tp isist he spend it?

We are run by the same exact Board as the last three years bar Dan Fiszman's departure right now....if that is fine by you don't be shocked when it's more of the smae. You say iots all changed now but what's changed, StanKreonke still too busy with other things and leaving the decisions to the Board on-site..... and what new members with differing philosophies have joined that Board now, or since 2010 ...or 2009....

greengooner · Post by **greengooner** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:31 am

jesus boys , its gone very very quiet on the rumour/bullshit transfer front, we are not even being linked with anybody let alone actually signing anybody
same fucking shit.....different summer

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:41 am

greengooner wrote:jesus boys , its gone very very quiet on the rumour/bullshit transfer front, we are not even being linked with anybody let alone actually signing anybody
same fucking shit.....different summer

Yep, and the same AKBs that for the past 3 Summers all said "this will be the year he changes it etc etc" will see once again that nothing of the sort will happen.

There will be a greater outflow than inflow and we'll be competing for 4th again.

So bored with it all now, I can barely read the sports pages.

biglunn · Post by **biglunn** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:20 am

TeeCee wrote:He should go on holiday just after the season ends. That way he comes back fresh when the UK window opens. Instead, he fucked off to work for French TV again at the end of the season.

This IMO is a big problem. He has stress.... yet he is off galavanting on French TV? Idiot.

And, yes, the whole club may be on vacation.... but the man who is ultimately responsible for the teams performance - ARSENE WENGER - he should be running around forcing the issue. He should be be dragging Gazidis back to Arsenal and telling him what players he wants in. Infact, if Arsene wasnt so stubborn and blind, he would have recognised the issues way back in February and drawn up an action plan so that when the transfer market opens the club is READY TO GO. That looks like the way Liverpool and ManU have operated. Why the f##k hasnt the deal for Cahil/Samba been done yet? Instead, other clubs start sniffing around and we will be `priced out`. Absolute shambles.

Wenger is a gutless passionless manager. An absolute weed that needs to be kicked out of the club if we are interested in footballing success. If he was hungry for success, as any manager worth his salt, he would not be at Arsenal and would have f##ked off to Real Madrid. Instead, like some of our shit players, he would rather stay here and earn a nice pay packet.

Sometimes, all it takes is one person to change the direction of a whole club. Someone who is strong willed to stamp his authority and take responsibility for the footballing team rather than making excuses. People are calling for Cesc to `make his intentions clear`.... why doesnt Wenger make his intentions clear? If as Marty seems to suggest, Wenger is being 'forced' to do this, it would boost his credibility if he actually came out and said it?