Apparently we're "not defensively weak"

[USMartin]

I would have more respect for him if he just turned round and said that we havent got any money, we havent got any ambition further than getting 4th, and to publically say that he loves his £7m year while laughing at us paying 6% more for the privelige

I hope you aren’t suggesting that if the Board in fact did willfully mis-lead us on these things for the reasons the facts suggest they might have that you have no problem with that

[USMartin]

He does everything.... I mean EVERYTHING to deflect critisism of Wenger to 'The Board', much like Wenger himself, who does his best to deflect from the real issues of the current squad.

It's this simple where is your definite proff to borrow the standard Quartz would require the question the Board and its conduct that either

A) the Board has offered significantly more money to the manager to strengthen the teeam that he has turned down

B) the Board would off significantly more money to any otther manager

Unless you have definite proof to support these contentions apparently you have no right to make them according to Quartz (or is your standard in fact a double-standard that only applies to questions you don't wish to ask?)

I'm sorry but it seems to me that many supporters would rather believe as was suggested recently that Arsene Wenger was engaged in deliberately sabotaging the team and club, simply to ignore the possibility if not probability that the Board had put its own personal interests ahead of the club's

I have and will again list all the facts in support of that possibility. The irony is none of you are able or willing to present any such facts because frankly there are far fewer such facts and many of them often do not pass objective standards by which things can be determined to be facts.

[USMartin]

When I read that Wenger believes the team is 'not defensively weak' I nearly threw my laptop out of the window. That if quite frankly insulting the intelligence of the ordinary fan, and Ive gone from loving the guy to absolutely wanting to do a flying kick into his head

This is exactly why the truth matters, because these issues are so important, so emotional to us that they stir such intense feelings. How would you feel if your child hit someone at school and said they did because the other kid did something your child knew they did not actually do or probably did not do?. My guess s you would be deeply disappointed in them for that reason alone and work hard to explain how wrong that specific behavior was because you don't do that certainly without genuine reason.

Then what if your child askedâ€

[mcdowell42]

Why dont you fuck off and do us all a favour.You cant produce your own evidence or proof and you have the neck to ask some other poster for proof of what they are saying.How have you not been banned yet

[Henry Norris 1913]

marty asking for proof

how about you stop hijacking threads and going off on one until there is substantial proof that the board are keeping money back? I believe this might be possible but I won't believe it until you give proof . wenger claims keeping nasri is like spending 20m, right?

these are the words of a tight, penny pinching cocktard if ever I heard it. this thread is about OUR DEFENCE so just give it a rest- please!!

[QuartzGooner]

These legends knew how to defend.

I know Steve Bould is on the coaching staff for reserves/youths but really think one of the others should be back at the club coaching defence.

2005 - 2006
Martin Keown defensive coach
10 consecutive Champions League games without conceding a goal..
Speaks for itself.

[USMartin]

Oh asking honest questions that should have been asked long ago is hijacking as opposed to succh carefully cosidered and though out object analysis as

It was only a matter of time before he started this shite again, he is a c**t.
I also found the timing of his recent attacks on Citeh's stadium sponsorship and a Barca players lack of respect very interesting. An attempt to distract from his lack of activity in the transfer market, whilst getting himself on the backpages "fighting for what is right" to the delight of his faithful followers.
The man is a spin merchant and the sad thing is, too many still fall for everyword, from the end of season "we will make changes" to the current, we are fine as we are.
It will however end with the rolling of his head, and I for one will drink champagne and eat caviar, in celebration.

Wenger is a c**t. End Of

I stick of this shite another season of defensive blunders ahead. I can't fucking understand how people can still stick behind this old Fuck!

When I read that Wenger believes the team is 'not defensively weak' I nearly threw my laptop out of the window. That if quite frankly insulting the intelligence of the ordinary fan, and Ive gone from loving the guy to absolutely wanting to do a flying kick into his head

As yes this logical serious discussion of these improtant issues.

I get it - this hurts and it hurts every single one of us but deliberately choosing to ignore the real problem or two to deliberaetly blame someone without genuine justification will not make it better. It simply will not. All it will do is poison the good times for you because they will remind you of the bad times then, and then you won't even be able to enjoy those as much as you once did still could and still should.

We can't just give in to raw emotions alone here, because that solves nothing.. Even if you insist on believing this is solely down to the manger if you refuse to make it cklear to the Board that persisting with him will call their conduct into question what do you expect them to do? If you don't question wht they are doing and why then they are accountable to no one but themsleves and their personal interests, whatever you believe they ultimately need to do.

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“I don’t think we are weak defensively but we are an offensive team,â€

[USMartin]

These legends knew how to defend.

I know Steve Bould is on the coaching staff for reserves/youths but really think one of the others should be back at the club coaching defence.

2005 - 2006
Martin Keown defensive coach
10 consecutive Champions League games without conceding a goal..
Speaks for itself.

Also the players in that defence and in goal speak for themselves

Pretending a new defensive coach is the only issue is just that pretending.

Who was the defensive coach from 2002-2005? Oh that's right we had real quality we invested in through our defence and in ffront of that defence as well. Under the same manager and same number two and the same first-team coach.

We may need a defensive coach now but pretending that has nothing to do with lack of investment in defence and defensive mid-ffeld is just that - pretending. Unless you want to argue that Keown can turn the current defence into one as good as the Invincibles had at the back and in front of the back four - or behind it for that matter.

[Henry Norris 1913]

what is the "real problem" then michael moore?

[mcdowell42]

what is the "real problem" then michael moore?

My god what have you done

[flash gunner]

I dont think wenger is a *word censored* he has just lost the plot. Wenger has been at the club too long and now cant see what is needed. He has to go ASAP

[SWLGooner]

WENGER, YOU'RE A *word censored*, WENGER WENGER YOU'RE A *word censored*.

analyze that please Martin.

[USMartin]

I dont think wenger is a c**t he has just lost the plot. Wenger has been at the club too long and now cant see what is needed. He has to go ASAP

And your proof that our financial policies will definitely change instantly and have no bearing on the next manager's ability to build a better side is...

[mcdowell42]

Wheres your proof mouthy