Apparently we're "not defensively weak"

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Offside wrote:Hitler had a lot of success at the start, rolling over weak opposition. But as time went on, he couldn't cut it against the bigger armies and eventually even the weak opposition started to work out how to stop him. The turning point was the Battle of Britain. In 1940, Hitler failed to knock out Britain. If he had done that, it would have left Europe at his mercy and the whole history of war would have been entirely different. In 2004, Arsenal failed to knock out Chelsea. If they had done that, it would have left Europe at their mercy and the whole history of the last few years would have been entirely different. Those defeats gave Britain/Chelsea confidence.
It's all coming together now. Great post.

I think this topic needs time spent on it!

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Verrrry interesting!!!

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To be fair Arsenal have always been defensively weak in the last 10 years or so. Anyone remember games during our good times around the mid 2000's where we beat sp*rs 5-3 away and Middlesbro 4-3 after being 3-1 down??? Even back then we were on the verge of getting done but our attacking players got us out of the shit.

When you play the style of Wengers you do concede this is why we need to take a more conservative approach tactically, yeah the defenders arent good enough but we dont defend as a team... I hate games where you win 5-3 its like a wanky sunday league match which could easily have gone against you an example being the 4-4 against sp*rs a couple of years ago. Give me a controlled maybe even boring 1-0 or 2-0 with good defending any day

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Wenger The Fuhrer

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Both man became shadows of their former selves, spending last days of their careers foolishly believing in power of Youth.

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Babu wrote:Verrrry interesting!!!

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Actually it wasnt the Battle Of Britain that turned the tide of the war. In truth Hitler did not want to be at war with Britain.
If he had of won the Battle of Britain he may have invaded via the channel but his main goal was to invade Russia.
He was very close to the oil fields when he decided that Stalingrad had to be taken.
Stalingrad was almost taken but the Russian reserves arrived and pushed the Germans out. Hitler had plenty of time to pull his troops out but refused and they all got killed or captured.
Now the battle that really lost them the war was Kursk. Russia had built new weapons and the Germans attacked without any knowledge of this new threat.
Again Wenger was at a point where he could have changed the goalkeeper or the defence but refused to in a dictator style and we lost the battles and eventually the war.

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supergeorgegraham wrote:Actually it wasnt the Battle Of Britain that turned the tide of the war. In truth Hitler did not want to be at war with Britain.
If he had of won the Battle of Britain he may have invaded via the channel but his main goal was to invade Russia.
He was very close to the oil fields when he decided that Stalingrad had to be taken.
Stalingrad was almost taken but the Russian reserves arrived and pushed the Germans out. Hitler had plenty of time to pull his troops out but refused and they all got killed or captured.
Now the battle that really lost them the war was Kursk. Russia had built new weapons and the Germans attacked without any knowledge of this new threat.
Again Wenger was at a point where he could have changed the goalkeeper or the defence but refused to in a dictator style and we lost the battles and eventually the war.
We don't need a fucking lecture in history, mate.

Your opening salvo was laughable, and you need to go back to school before spouting that bullshit.

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marcengels wrote:
supergeorgegraham wrote:Actually it wasnt the Battle Of Britain that turned the tide of the war. In truth Hitler did not want to be at war with Britain.
If he had of won the Battle of Britain he may have invaded via the channel but his main goal was to invade Russia.
He was very close to the oil fields when he decided that Stalingrad had to be taken.
Stalingrad was almost taken but the Russian reserves arrived and pushed the Germans out. Hitler had plenty of time to pull his troops out but refused and they all got killed or captured.
Now the battle that really lost them the war was Kursk. Russia had built new weapons and the Germans attacked without any knowledge of this new threat.
Again Wenger was at a point where he could have changed the goalkeeper or the defence but refused to in a dictator style and we lost the battles and eventually the war.
We don't need a fucking lecture in history, mate.

Your opening salvo was laughable, and you need to go back to school before spouting that bullshit.

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marcengels wrote:
supergeorgegraham wrote:Actually it wasnt the Battle Of Britain that turned the tide of the war. In truth Hitler did not want to be at war with Britain.
If he had of won the Battle of Britain he may have invaded via the channel but his main goal was to invade Russia.
He was very close to the oil fields when he decided that Stalingrad had to be taken.
Stalingrad was almost taken but the Russian reserves arrived and pushed the Germans out. Hitler had plenty of time to pull his troops out but refused and they all got killed or captured.
Now the battle that really lost them the war was Kursk. Russia had built new weapons and the Germans attacked without any knowledge of this new threat.
Again Wenger was at a point where he could have changed the goalkeeper or the defence but refused to in a dictator style and we lost the battles and eventually the war.
We don't need a fucking lecture in history, mate.

Your opening salvo was laughable, and you need to go back to school before spouting that bullshit.

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I do understand that not all Arsenal fans have a brain. Just stick to your burger and beer at half time and leave History to those who have other things in life apart from a football club being taken down the wrong path.
Fans like you help people like Wenger get away with whatever he wants. Hey that happened in Nazi Germany too.
Damn that must have destroyed your last brain cell

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supergeorgegraham wrote:
marcengels wrote:
supergeorgegraham wrote:Actually it wasnt the Battle Of Britain that turned the tide of the war. In truth Hitler did not want to be at war with Britain.
If he had of won the Battle of Britain he may have invaded via the channel but his main goal was to invade Russia.
He was very close to the oil fields when he decided that Stalingrad had to be taken.
Stalingrad was almost taken but the Russian reserves arrived and pushed the Germans out. Hitler had plenty of time to pull his troops out but refused and they all got killed or captured.
Now the battle that really lost them the war was Kursk. Russia had built new weapons and the Germans attacked without any knowledge of this new threat.
Again Wenger was at a point where he could have changed the goalkeeper or the defence but refused to in a dictator style and we lost the battles and eventually the war.
We don't need a fucking lecture in history, mate.

Your opening salvo was laughable, and you need to go back to school before spouting that bullshit.

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I do understand that not all Arsenal fans have a brain. Just stick to your burger and beer at half time and leave History to those who have other things in life apart from a football club being taken down the wrong path.
Fans like you help people like Wenger get away with whatever he wants. Hey that happened in Nazi Germany too.
Damn that must have destroyed your last brain cell
Why don't you join up with the away fans and start singing the paedo songs since I think you'd say anythiing to convince yourself the Board had nothimg to do with any of this and your ignorance of the possibility that they did basically allowed them to to do what they have done.... and it may not be over yet...

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Antony Beevor's book on Stalingrad is a good read. Where are we heading with this? Wenger should only travel as far as the Ukraine in the CL? :?: :?:

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Why don't you join up with the away fans and start singing the paedo songs since I think you'd say anythiing to convince yourself the Board had nothimg to do with any of this and your ignorance of the possibility that they did basically allowed them to to do what they have done.... and it may not be over yet...
You are outdoing yourself USM. On another thread anybody who disagrees with AW is a tea party racist. On this thread disagreement with you is like chanting vile at our manager.

You are walking the cuntline again.


Cuntline — The "valley" between the strands of a rope or cable. Before serving a section of laid rope e.g. to protect it from chafing, it may be "wormed" by laying yarns in the cuntlines, giving that section an even cylindrical shape.


Sorry marc :lol:

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supergeorgegraham wrote:
marcengels wrote:
supergeorgegraham wrote:Actually it wasnt the Battle Of Britain that turned the tide of the war. In truth Hitler did not want to be at war with Britain.
If he had of won the Battle of Britain he may have invaded via the channel but his main goal was to invade Russia.
He was very close to the oil fields when he decided that Stalingrad had to be taken.
Stalingrad was almost taken but the Russian reserves arrived and pushed the Germans out. Hitler had plenty of time to pull his troops out but refused and they all got killed or captured.
Now the battle that really lost them the war was Kursk. Russia had built new weapons and the Germans attacked without any knowledge of this new threat.
Again Wenger was at a point where he could have changed the goalkeeper or the defence but refused to in a dictator style and we lost the battles and eventually the war.
We don't need a fucking lecture in history, mate.

Your opening salvo was laughable, and you need to go back to school before spouting that bullshit.

:banghead:


I do understand that not all Arsenal fans have a brain. Just stick to your burger and beer at half time and leave History to those who have other things in life apart from a football club being taken down the wrong path.
Fans like you help people like Wenger get away with whatever he wants. Hey that happened in Nazi Germany too.
Damn that must have destroyed your last brain cell
:coffeespit: :awnker:

As I said mate, you need to go back to school...or at least think before you write.

Don't worry, maybe in your next life.

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