Tony Adams praises Danny Fiszman

[Herd]

STG
I can't comment for US Martin but I deal with some of the largest corporations on this planet on a daily basis.

I stand by everything I say on the matter of Fizman !

I am the Herd !

Just back from a very long lunch !

EIE ................Burp !

[LDB]

STG
I can't comment for US Martin but I deal with some of the largest corporations on this planet on a daily basis.

I stand by everything I say on the matter of Fizman !

I am the Herd !

Just back from a very long lunch !

EIE ................Burp !

In fairness running coaches for them doesnt really qualify as "dealing with large corporations on a daily basis".

[DB10GOONER]

STG
I can't comment for US Martin but I deal with some of the largest corporations on this planet on a daily basis.

I stand by everything I say on the matter of Fizman !

I am the Herd !

Just back from a very long lunch !

EIE ................Burp !

In fairness running coaches for them doesnt really qualify as "dealing with large corporations on a daily basis".

[mcdowell42]

If i could just offer some thoughts on the subject.
















FUCK OFF MARTY

Seriously though marty you are back to name calling and insults because other posters dont agree with your narrow minded views.As Quartz so nicely pointed out you seem unable or willing to do something about what you think is wrong with the way the board run the club.


There has to be other avenues of advertising your opposition to the board but like ive said on here numerous times you are unable to walk the walk you are all talk.And please i think you are in no position to call people on here phoneys or frauds when you are the biggest culprit of what you accuse other people of.

[Herd]

In fairness running coaches for them doesnt really qualify as "dealing with large corporations on a daily basis".

Your right running coaches for the smallest but the most loony firms in London whose average age was fif a fif fif a fifteen years old in the late 70's was far more difficult but infinitely far more fun than many things I've done since .

When ++++++ Tours come over the hill Hurrah Hurrah etc !

Were so Pretty we hate man city we are V......................................t and we dont care .

Im going back down Mollies !

[flash gunner]

As Quartz so nicely pointed out you seem unable or willing to do something about what you think is wrong with the way the board run the club.


There has to be other avenues of advertising your opposition to the board but like ive said on here numerous times you are unable to walk the walk you are all talk.And please i think you are in no position to call people on here phoneys or frauds when you are the biggest culprit of what you accuse other people of.

Heed the advice Marty

[mcdowell42]

As Quartz so nicely pointed out you seem unable or willing to do something about what you think is wrong with the way the board run the club.


There has to be other avenues of advertising your opposition to the board but like ive said on here numerous times you are unable to walk the walk you are all talk.And please i think you are in no position to call people on here phoneys or frauds when you are the biggest culprit of what you accuse other people of.

Heed the advice Marty

You left out fuck off marty

[flash gunner]

As Quartz so nicely pointed out you seem unable or willing to do something about what you think is wrong with the way the board run the club.


There has to be other avenues of advertising your opposition to the board but like ive said on here numerous times you are unable to walk the walk you are all talk.And please i think you are in no position to call people on here phoneys or frauds when you are the biggest culprit of what you accuse other people of.

Heed the advice Marty

You left out fuck off marty

I was trying to be adult I thought he might not heed the advice if the first thing it said was fuck off

[USMartin]

And the finances has nothing to do with the football in this instance? I had no idea Arsenal were an amatuer football club. When did you learn this? It's most certainly news to me and I daresay most of us...

[JMascis666]

People, people what you seem to fail to understand is that Marty is correct and you are not.

[mcdowell42]

This is, always has been, and always will be a FUCK OFF US MARTY Movement and nothing more or less

[USMartin]

USM it seems to me that your views on the Arsenal board all come down to the simple fact that they made money out of the club. I think the re-investment of funds etc is a bit of a smoke screen by you. You are in all intense and perposes jelious of the Arsenal board, you can not stand the fact that these people are rich. After reading most of your posts over the years on here and on other forums(as you asked me to do a while back) it seems to me atleast that you have a seething resentment to the money they have made.

Not at all, mate. No one begrudges wealth. After all some of the greatest economically progressive politicians Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the Kennedy Family for just two examples come from from levels of weatlh and privilege I would daresay make even the richest Board members look a bit well, pedsetrian.

As was pointed out earlier Dan Fiszman made 150 million GBP selling Star Diamonds. Have I protested against that? No. I have even stated I have no complaint about the Board profitting personally even even making a fairly healthy profit. I just happen to feel that a healthy profit would have been 60 million GBP instead of 130 million and that had the Board pushed for a smaller but still very healthy profit (especially considering how little money Bioard members actually had invested into the club) that the could increased their personal wealth fairly significantly without having to weaken the football team significantly and deny millions the happiness and joy the invest their lives and hearts and souls into Arsenal for.

No the Board being rich and having money has never been the issue. It's not even my concern. It's the Board being greedy and breaking my heart and yours (even if you're too blindly loyal to stand up for yourself and acknowledge it) and millions of others simply to make an even bigger personal profit for no other need or reason than simply having even more money I take exception to. You may think greed is good or even moral. I do not. I also do not think greed and wealth are one and the same nor do I think that you cannot have wealth without having greed.

[USMartin]

As Quartz said you have many opportunities around the world wide web to start something or to join Arsenal groups but you refuse to do so. As I would imagine your theory's, ideas and only being able to see what has happened only in black and White would soon be shot down by people who do know what is happening.

Yes and I posted a petition that any Gooner whether blame the manager solely, the Board solely or like me, both parties (but in my case the Board primarily as I believe this all originated from inside the Board Room), and had enough Gooners been willing to sign it we might have at least gotten the message across that we were concerned about the club’s direction and may even have seen some sort of action that would have a positive impact as a result. And if it was ignored or the Board offered some inadequate or questionable response we could have pressed on from there.

The day I announced the petition was up I was an even sharper target for criticism and resentment.

So don’t you dare continue with this pure fallacy that I haven’t tried to do anything. It’s you and Quartz and others wedded to your Camelot- or Four Feathers – or Tom Brown’s School Days – like fantasies of Arsenal representing everything that is special about England and being English and your desperate desire to preserve that vision even if it harms the club you support and the team you live and die a little with every day that have chosen to do nothing and ignore facts that are inconvenient to that vision. Don’t put your choices to willfully ignore the problems on me thank you.

[USMartin]

As I said you only see the facts in balck and White, I do not know if you have any dealing with very large company's and board members of large company's but running these businesses is not all night and day you have to be flexible able to change policy's depending on finances and current trends and that is what makes you successful and over the past 10 to 15 years we have seen some of the biggest changes in the way football clubs are run and financed ever.

I’m not sure if you are saying anything at all of real substance here. This is not some multi-national umbrella corporation under which 10 or 20 or 30 smaller companies operate which does have to be operated as you suggest and would have to be operated in far different manner than Arsenal has to be and as you suggest.

Arsenal is a football club that has built a couple of things recently and its property development business is all but shut down effectively now. We are basically just a football club again. That’s how we should be run. Not as a private piggy bank for multi-millionaires or billionaires or anyone else for that matter. Just as a football team that is both competively ambitious and commercially competent. Clearly that balance has disappeared altogether since 2005.

[USMartin]

I don't believe everything the board has done has sometimes been in mine or the fans best interests of the club but that goes with the job you can't please all the people all of the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAHR7_VZdRw

"See...You can't please everyone so make as much dosh as you can for yourself ...."

I never heard that version before...learn something new every day after all....