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QuartzGooner wrote:
biglunn wrote:^^^

:shock: Quartz, I've never seen you so upset! Normally you are One of the most civilised posters here! Don't let the bastards get to you 8)
This place works well nearly all the time.

There are flare ups, some serious, but posters on here are either genuine Gooners or declare their allegiance to another club up front and it is no problem.

But this USMartin has consistently hit below the belt for over a year, and refused to discuss things in a respectful fashion.

I sincerely believe he is not a proper fan, and is just on here to wind up members.
He exhibits aggression and insulting behaviour every day.

I think he should be banned.
I agree. And I have PM'd gooner.ed with my complaints.

If there are enough complaints, then he will be gone.

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The problem here is that although Marty is a wind up merchant, he rarely commits an 'offence' worthy of banning. Yes, I agree he uses this forum as a platform for his one man crusade against the board, often dismissing other people's opinions while ramming his own down everyones and ALWAYS blaming every problem on the board. Stubborn man, a bit like a certain Mr Wenger. He actually makes me pro - board!

Best thing is if we collectively ignore all his posts.

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The problem here is that although Marty is a wind up merchant, he rarely commits an 'offence' worthy of banning. Yes, I agree he uses this forum as a platform for his one man crusade against the board, often dismissing other people's opinions while ramming his own down everyones and ALWAYS blaming every problem on the board. Stubborn man, a bit like a certain Mr Wenger. He actually makes me pro - board!

Best thing is if we collectively ignore all his posts.

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biglunn wrote:The problem here is that although Marty is a wind up merchant, he rarely commits an 'offence' worthy of banning. Yes, I agree he uses this forum as a platform for his one man crusade against the board, often dismissing other people's opinions while ramming his own down everyones and ALWAYS blaming every problem on the board. Stubborn man, a bit like a certain Mr Wenger. He actually makes me pro - board!

Best thing is if we collectively ignore all his posts.

Doesnt matter if you ignore his posts he will happily chat away to himself and keep posting :lol:

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USMartin wrote:
frankbutcher wrote:Martin, Martin, Martin,

Is there something wrong with you? We've all heard your theory. Some agree :oops: , some disagree. You have no 'smoking gun' to prove you right, so why do you persist in repeating yourself on a daily basis? What are you achieving? Absolutely nothing......................... What are you going to achieve? Absolutely nothing.......................... All you are doing is pissing people off.

I'll tell you something for free. You would achieve a lot more if you were personable, and wrote with a bit of character. You take yourself so seriously, it is painful to watch. In life, you need to adapt to your surrroundings in order to get your point across. You don't do this. Why? You're a grown man. Either change the record, or give up.

You are just boring people to tears.
Thank you for the free advice. But waht I would really like to know is where your smoking gun is, what it is and of you have none why exactly that hasn't stopped you from beieving wehat you do and from discounting any other possibilities.

I should think that if a smoking gun is necessary to reach any conlusion then surely that holds true in reaching yours unless you are just operating with a double standard.
But he's not the one that's banging on about his 'theory' all the time. The onus is on you to produce the evidence as that is all you talk about and you claim it to be the absolute truth without giving thought to other people's views. The fact that you don't realise this just shows how much of a pain it is to 'debate' with you.

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Sorry. I don't understand why people spring to usmartin's defence on a point of principle.

Hijacking threads at every oportunity is one thing.

Abuse is different. If somebody were to call you a liar, hypocrite, coward, gutless, etc, would you defend his right to say it? Because that's what has been happening here for over a year.

He has already been banned from other forums. It sure as hell wasn't for making too many spelling mistakes.

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I don't think Martin is a fraud as he's given details of who he actually is.

However, I do agree that he's made his points so many times it becomes a bit ridiculous. Martin you're actually a good poster, just please FFS post on something else.

I for one don't mind Martin but never read the board threads, until something new comes to light we'll never have ANY CONCRETE EVIDENCE on either side, and we will just continue to go round in ever decreasing circles.

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Post by flash gunner »

olgitgooner wrote:Sorry. I don't understand why people spring to usmartin's defence on a point of principle.

Hijacking threads at every oportunity is one thing.

Abuse is different. If somebody were to call you a liar, hypocrite, coward, gutless, etc, would you defend his right to say it? Because that's what has been happening here for over a year.

He has already been banned from other forums. It sure as hell wasn't for making too many spelling mistakes.
Have to agree with olgit and Quartz

The pattern will start again now.I think Martin takes things to the edge and then just as he is about to get load of complaints he will either go missing for a while or post non-board posts for a little while, then slowly get back into the same old routine

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SWLGooner wrote:I don't think Martin is a fraud as he's given details of who he actually is.

However, I do agree that he's made his points so many times it becomes a bit ridiculous. Martin you're actually a good poster, just please FFS post on something else.

I for one don't mind Martin but never read the board threads, until something new comes to light we'll never have ANY CONCRETE EVIDENCE on either side, and we will just continue to go round in ever decreasing circles.
Wasting your time mate. Marty will keep banging out the same same old stuff.

It's not just an obsession with the Board. I think he's obsessed with drawing people into arguments they would rather not have. Ooh look at me, I'm so clever and knowledgable. See how I mock your inferior debating skills. :roll:

When that fails then it's back to spitting feathers and throwing insults.

It's not good, it's not clever, and it's caused no end of bad feeling on these pages.

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olgitgooner wrote:
SWLGooner wrote:I don't think Martin is a fraud as he's given details of who he actually is.

However, I do agree that he's made his points so many times it becomes a bit ridiculous. Martin you're actually a good poster, just please FFS post on something else.

I for one don't mind Martin but never read the board threads, until something new comes to light we'll never have ANY CONCRETE EVIDENCE on either side, and we will just continue to go round in ever decreasing circles.
Wasting your time mate. Marty will keep banging out the same same old stuff.

It's not just an obsession with the Board. I think he's obsessed with drawing people into arguments they would rather not have. Ooh look at me, I'm so clever and knowledgable. See how I mock your inferior debating skills. :roll:

When that fails then it's back to spitting feathers and throwing insults.

It's not good, it's not clever, and it's caused no end of bad feeling on these pages.

Yet cant spell to save his life :roll:

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SWLGooner wrote:I don't think Martin is a fraud as he's given details of who he actually is.

However, I do agree that he's made his points so many times it becomes a bit ridiculous. Martin you're actually a good poster, just please FFS post on something else.

I for one don't mind Martin but never read the board threads, until something new comes to light we'll never have ANY CONCRETE EVIDENCE on either side, and we will just continue to go round in ever decreasing circles.
The problem with that it it supposes with should believe other thingsd with no concrete endidence whatsoever supporting those caims Is that in fact any different at all from doing what I am doing as you suggest (and I respectfully disagree to some extent)?

My sense is that we do not know a with real certainty what is happening or why or wthether the club's best intersts have been protected by those entrusted by us to protect them, and thus we should be concerned about every possibility and express our concern about every possibility if we genuinely want the change we all want to see.

I don't think focusing solely on any one possibility or ignoring any other possibilities achieves anything. You can't fix a problem if you deliberately ignore it. You can fix a problem by falsesly diagnosing what it is. You can only fix what's broken if you can identify what is broken. Ignoring what you know is or may be broken will not let you fix anything.

The problem seems to be too many are too happy to do that, and they take very deep exception to anyone directly or indirectly pointing that out.

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The bottom line is this.....marty isn't going to change. If you want rid of him, then you'll just have to pm gooner.ed. Same as I did.

It goes against the grain to do it. But there you are.

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can someone ban this rude, ignorant little gobshite who I'm ashamed to say is a gooner? trying to peddle his little petition as one man's brave crusade against the board when no-one would believe him is pathetic .
I've done more to help the club than that pathetic twat. The fact he keeps coming back here spouting the same tired shit says it all. he only wants a reaction , he's a WUM. he doesn't even sound interested in football , and even used the board as a scapegoat in the official match forum, and has abused many of us who had it with the constant hijacking.

FUCK OFF CUNTOSSER

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Henry Norris 1913 wrote:can someone ban this rude, ignorant little gobshite who I'm ashamed to say is a gooner? trying to peddle his little petition as one man's brave crusade against the board when no-one would believe him is pathetic .
I've done more to help the club than that pathetic twat. The fact he keeps coming back here spouting the same tired shit says it all. he only wants a reaction , he's a WUM. he doesn't even sound interested in football , and even used the board as a scapegoat in the official match forum, and has abused many of us who had it with the constant hijacking.

FUCK OFF CUNTOSSER
PM gooner.ed.

It's the only way. The mods can't ban anyone, even if they wanted to.

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Henry Norris 1913 wrote:can someone ban this rude, ignorant little gobshite who I'm ashamed to say is a gooner? trying to peddle his little petition as one man's brave crusade against the board when no-one would believe him is pathetic .
I've done more to help the club than that pathetic twat. The fact he keeps coming back here spouting the same tired shit says it all. he only wants a reaction , he's a WUM. he doesn't even sound interested in football , and even used the board as a scapegoat in the official match forum, and has abused many of us who had it with the constant hijacking.

FUCK OFF CUNTOSSER
Ah yes I am solely guilty.

I love how self-serving so many of you are. in condmening ny conduct but justifying any conduct toward me under many circumstances including this sort of conduct.

Just keep this in mind - this says a lot more about who you are and how you choose to behave and that won't change no matter what. And one day one way it shall come back to roost. You might not have me to blame then, though we all know when we return to being the adults we really are you really don't have me to blame now for how you choose to act. Good luck with it then either way...

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