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SteveO 35 wrote:If anyone really is going and wants to put some sensible questions forward I would suggest:
1. Ivan, what is your 3 year plan for Arsenal ?
2. How do you measure success ?
3. Whilst you talk about inflation being a key reason behind the 6% ticket price increase we couldn't help but notice from the company's half year financial statements that the wage bill at the club is now £8m p.a. higher than last year and a much higher % of revenue. One would suggest that is the real driver behind the ticket price increase - agreed ?
4. Why is it all our transfers, both incoming and outgoing turn out to be long drawn out affairs?
As oppose to United, Chelsea and City who sign players instantly? All big major signings seem to take a fair while and appear to be long drawn out processes. Maybe the point should be, why do we seem to quibble over a couple of quid when trying to acquire certain players?
Sorry, Tosspot, but didn't Manure tie up deals for Jones/Young/De Gea before June was out!!! and I noticed you didn't mention our outgoing transfers!!!!
De Gea took well over a month, rumours were circulating before the end of the season. Jones and Young were quick signings because both clubs were cash hungry and the club involved was Man United. Outgoing transfers? What are we supposed to stump up the money for the clubs interested? Look no further than the Tevez saga if you're moaning about time. Barca won't stump up the cash and Wenger wants to keep Nasri. What do you want us to do?
You really do find a positive slant on everything that the club does, how the fuck are Villa cash hungry, they're not the same as Blackburn and if they needed the money for an incoming transfer they have only just signed Charles N'Zogbia... anyway there's no convincing you on anything the club do or don't and what do I want the club to do?? I want them to get rid of all the shit players that Wenger (and probably you) has put so much faith in, get them of the wage bill asap!! The only thing stopping them going quickly is the stupid bastard who has put them on such good contracts!!!
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Here come the tough questions on transfers. Fans very unhappy with Ivan and challenge on lack of summer activity.
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Ivan turning guns on agents who are using media to manipulate stories about who Arsenal are buying that creates false expectation.
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Apparently everything is the fault of the agents
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Ivan backs Wenger's judgment & says he wants to strengthen the defence and the moves to address are ongoing. Big hint experience sought
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Ivan says the Arsenal board's strength is their 'steadiness' and they create a stable environment. Says achievement is remaining competitive
franksav63 wrote:
4. Why is it all our transfers, both incoming and outgoing turn out to be long drawn out affairs?
As oppose to United, Chelsea and City who sign players instantly? All big major signings seem to take a fair while and appear to be long drawn out processes. Maybe the point should be, why do we seem to quibble over a couple of quid when trying to acquire certain players?
Sorry, Tosspot, but didn't Manure tie up deals for Jones/Young/De Gea before June was out!!! and I noticed you didn't mention our outgoing transfers!!!!
De Gea took well over a month, rumours were circulating before the end of the season. Jones and Young were quick signings because both clubs were cash hungry and the club involved was Man United. Outgoing transfers? What are we supposed to stump up the money for the clubs interested? Look no further than the Tevez saga if you're moaning about time. Barca won't stump up the cash and Wenger wants to keep Nasri. What do you want us to do?
You really do find a positive slant on everything that the club does, how the fuck are Villa cash hungry, they're not the same as Blackburn and if they needed the money for an incoming transfer they have only just signed Charles N'Zogbia... anyway there's no convincing you on anything the club do or don't and what do I want the club to do?? I want them to get rid of all the shit players that Wenger (and probably you) has put so much faith in, get them of the wage bill asap!! The only thing stopping them going quickly is the stupid bastard who has put them on such good contracts!!!
Positive slant? I'm being realistic in that signing a player won't happen overnight, especially when we are unwilling to stump up crazy money for certain players. And I was asking what do you want the club to do regarding the Nasri and Cesc situations?
tinpot lane wrote:
As oppose to United, Chelsea and City who sign players instantly? All big major signings seem to take a fair while and appear to be long drawn out processes. Maybe the point should be, why do we seem to quibble over a couple of quid when trying to acquire certain players?
Sorry, Tosspot, but didn't Manure tie up deals for Jones/Young/De Gea before June was out!!! and I noticed you didn't mention our outgoing transfers!!!!
De Gea took well over a month, rumours were circulating before the end of the season. Jones and Young were quick signings because both clubs were cash hungry and the club involved was Man United. Outgoing transfers? What are we supposed to stump up the money for the clubs interested? Look no further than the Tevez saga if you're moaning about time. Barca won't stump up the cash and Wenger wants to keep Nasri. What do you want us to do?
You really do find a positive slant on everything that the club does, how the fuck are Villa cash hungry, they're not the same as Blackburn and if they needed the money for an incoming transfer they have only just signed Charles N'Zogbia... anyway there's no convincing you on anything the club do or don't and what do I want the club to do?? I want them to get rid of all the shit players that Wenger (and probably you) has put so much faith in, get them of the wage bill asap!! The only thing stopping them going quickly is the stupid bastard who has put them on such good contracts!!!
Positive slant? I'm being realistic in that signing a player won't happen overnight, especially when we are unwilling to stump up crazy money for certain players. And I was asking what do you want the club to do regarding the Nasri and Cesc situations?
Sell them of course.... FFS, what are you? a fucking mouthpiece for the club....
Edit.. offers on the table, get rid so we can get on with our pre-seasion, but no, that's too fucking easy for Le Myopic (tightwad) hanging on for the very last penny...
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Gazidis rightly telling fans that Emirates vital for Arsenal business model. Chelsea and City benefactor factors have since overtaken model
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Gazidis confirms retaining the self sustainable model is proving increasingly difficult & describes wider unease in game at financial issues
Yadda, yadda, yadda. Change the record Ivan...
All that the self-sustaining model has been successful in so far is making some directors very rich.
Of course it has because thats what it was specifically designed for
Tinpot I dont want to interupt your one on one debate but I should point out that the reason why de gea's transfer dragged out was that he refused to discuss his future until after the european under 21 finals were over and to be fair unless I am mistaken he duly signed 4 or 5 days after they finished
augie wrote:Tinpot I dont want to interupt your one on one debate but I should point out that the reason why de gea's transfer dragged out was that he refused to discuss his future until after the european under 21 finals were over and to be fair unless I am mistaken he duly signed 4 or 5 days after they finished
Bloody hell Augie - don't spoil a Rose Tinter's view on Wengerland with any facts. That won't do
Was anybody at that fcuking meeting last night ?? Jeez the last time ivan met ast we had shitloads of reports and updates from the meeting and this time round we were told 5 or 6 of the questions that were asked and the answers given but that has been all Were any other questions asked ? Was the yank/south african given an absolute grilling or was it the usual all talk beforehand but no fcuking action ? People we need info here
augie wrote:Tinpot I dont want to interupt your one on one debate but I should point out that the reason why de gea's transfer dragged out was that he refused to discuss his future until after the european under 21 finals were over and to be fair unless I am mistaken he duly signed 4 or 5 days after they finished
Yes but there were several weeks before the tournament in which the transfer could have taken place.
augie wrote:Tinpot I dont want to interupt your one on one debate but I should point out that the reason why de gea's transfer dragged out was that he refused to discuss his future until after the european under 21 finals were over and to be fair unless I am mistaken he duly signed 4 or 5 days after they finished
Yes but there were several weeks before the tournament in which the transfer could have taken place.
I know that but de gea himself refused to discuss his future so that he could concentrate on the upcoming under 21 championships so those few (not several) weeks dont really count imo
augie wrote:Tinpot I dont want to interupt your one on one debate but I should point out that the reason why de gea's transfer dragged out was that he refused to discuss his future until after the european under 21 finals were over and to be fair unless I am mistaken he duly signed 4 or 5 days after they finished
Yes but there were several weeks before the tournament in which the transfer could have taken place.
I know that but de gea himself refused to discuss his future so that he could concentrate on the upcoming under 21 championships so those few (not several) weeks dont really count imo
Well before the CL final Ballague and Graham Hunter said De Gea was ready to move and hoped the deal would be completed before the tournament. It was only during the tournament that De Gea came out and said he would prefer to talk after. Anyway my main point was that we're not the only club to encounter problems when trying to secure a deal for certain players. Just look at United struggling to complete the Sniejder deal.
augie wrote:Tinpot I dont want to interupt your one on one debate but I should point out that the reason why de gea's transfer dragged out was that he refused to discuss his future until after the european under 21 finals were over and to be fair unless I am mistaken he duly signed 4 or 5 days after they finished
Yes but there were several weeks before the tournament in which the transfer could have taken place.
I know that but de gea himself refused to discuss his future so that he could concentrate on the upcoming under 21 championships so those few (not several) weeks dont really count imo
Well before the CL final Ballague and Graham Hunter said De Gea was ready to move and hoped the deal would be completed before the tournament. It was only during the tournament that De Gea came out and said he would prefer to talk after. Anyway my main point was that we're not the only club to encounter problems when trying to secure a deal for certain players. Just look at United's struggle to push through the Sniejder deal.
That's just one isolated transfer, that you've cherry picked and twisted so you can compare our long drawn deals with other clubs (and even then it's stretching the point), but looking back at our proposed deals, it's virtually every incoming transfer since the Arshavin one that just drags on and on, even our outgoing transfers are the same. Why can you not accept any justified criticism towards the club? Do you work for them or something??
augie wrote:Tinpot I dont want to interupt your one on one debate but I should point out that the reason why de gea's transfer dragged out was that he refused to discuss his future until after the european under 21 finals were over and to be fair unless I am mistaken he duly signed 4 or 5 days after they finished
Yes but there were several weeks before the tournament in which the transfer could have taken place.
I know that but de gea himself refused to discuss his future so that he could concentrate on the upcoming under 21 championships so those few (not several) weeks dont really count imo
Well before the CL final Ballague and Graham Hunter said De Gea was ready to move and hoped the deal would be completed before the tournament. It was only during the tournament that De Gea came out and said he would prefer to talk after. Anyway my main point was that we're not the only club to encounter problems when trying to secure a deal for certain players. Just look at United's struggle to push through the Sniejder deal.
That's just one isolated transfer, that you've cherry picked and twisted so you can compare our long drawn deals with other clubs (and even then it's stretching the point), but looking back at our proposed deals, it's virtually every incoming transfer since the Arshavin one that just drags on and on, even our outgoing transfers are the same. Why can you not accept any justified criticism towards the club? Do you work for them or something??
Did you even bother to read my initial point? Where I shed light on the possible cause as to why our transfer dealings take so long? Oh no ofcourse not, I could never criticise the club.
I still don't understand your point on outgoing transfers?!
Were any other questions asked ? Was the yank/south african given an absolute grilling or was it the usual all talk beforehand but no fcuking action ? People we need info here
