As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
jimthedutch wrote:Call yourself a captain you tosser,you was having a good laugh with ade after he did'nt square it to Bendtner to finish the game off.
Remember Gallas reaction after Bendtner's own goal at shite hart lane,no gee up for Bendtner just a yell up to the nighttime sky.
Fuck off Gallas if your not a team player
Fuck off Gallas if you cant lead by example
I dont want him representing my club with that shit attitude
If only he had an ounce of Tony Adams leadership qualities
Fuck off Gallas
You should fuck off!!!
OK he should'nt have done what he did but it shows he cares about this club and cares about winning this fucking league
I rated Gallas highly before thre match, but now i admire him for how passionate he was back there. I don't know what are the motives for that kind of behaviour (premierleague title bonus, personal glory for taking the league as a captain of a young team or just the passion for winning). but he clearly showen that he isn't happy with what happend today and he's gonna do something about it.
I think that with these kind of players, you can't not win the title.
jimthedutch wrote:Call yourself a captain you tosser,you was having a good laugh with ade after he did'nt square it to Bendtner to finish the game off.
Remember Gallas reaction after Bendtner's own goal at shite hart lane,no gee up for Bendtner just a yell up to the nighttime sky.
Fuck off Gallas if your not a team player
Fuck off Gallas if you cant lead by example
I dont want him representing my club with that shit attitude
If only he had an ounce of Tony Adams leadership qualities
Fuck off Gallas
At least he looked as tho he was fuckin gutted about it and cared which is more than you can say for last weeks debacle. I'd rather have that than a shrug of the shoulders and a "I'm still gonna collect my mega wages at the end of the month" look. And maybe, just maybe, he was slightly affected by seeing a team mates lower leg hanging off by a fuckin thread earier in the day
augie wrote:All this "gallas is a winner" is a load of bollox to me You cannot excuse his behaviour by citing his admireable desire to win.. He made a total *word censored* of himself and the club on a day that we all had more important things to worry about than his hurt feelings. He should have been in that dressing room straight away after the game telling clichy that he has had a fab season and will probably have another blinder next week or something along those lines. A good captain thinks of the team first and himself 2nd - a good captain gallas aint
Yet again augie having a go at an Arsenal player. It used to be that one of the reason I hate it so much when Arsenal loose was the stick I would get from everyone I know who dont support the Arse. But now 1 of the first things I think of is that will give augie a reason to have a dig. I have never known an Arsenal fan who takes so much enjoyment out of having a go at ANY Arsenal player. I'm sorry that events overtook your chance to have a go at our keeper about the 1st goal. Is any player safe from your stick? I know you are entitled to your opinion and I dont question the fact you are an inteligent bloke but why can't you give the players and manager some credit some times.
For what it's worth I think a lot of people on here are slagging the media off for making a big deal about what AW said etc then calling our own captain a tosser and worse for sitting down and cooling down instead of blowing his top at a young player live on TV. What he did ain't perfect but for f*cks sake get over it. He want's to win, I think if we had 11 Gallas in our team we would win the league every year. I just hope when any of you make a fuck up at work or school you think it's ok for people to call you every name under the sun. But lets be honest none of you would do it to his face.
I just hope when any of you make a fuck up at work or school you think it's ok for people to call you every name under the sun. But lets be honest none of you would do it to his face.
Interesting you mention the work example.
As I pointed out earlier on the thread, how would you react if your supervisor started booting filing cabinets after a fuck up?
I think that Alan Hansen (who knows a thing or two about captaining championship winning sides) hit the nail on the head - what message does that send out to Fergie?
And what's this about not saying it to his face - I'm 6ft 3inches tall, I'd gladly tell him anything I feel necessary to say to his face.
No-one's above criticism merely because they play for Arsenal and 'want to win'
correct no one is above criticism but Gallas's reaction was a two edged sword. on one side was the pure frustration and bottling that we dont need right now. he needs to be strong and keep his players afloat for one of the toughest run ins we have ever had in our history. On the other hand a part of me liked the way he went crazy when the penalty went in cause it proved he cared which is more than i can say for a few of the other players particulary Barry Bender Bendtner who did sweet fuck all AGAIN. Gallas sitting on the pitch on his own was an immortal image which hit me emotionally. I just hope he looks at it long and hard and does everything in his power to get this team where they belong.
augie wrote:All this "gallas is a winner" is a load of bollox to me You cannot excuse his behaviour by citing his admireable desire to win.. He made a total *word censored* of himself and the club on a day that we all had more important things to worry about than his hurt feelings. He should have been in that dressing room straight away after the game telling clichy that he has had a fab season and will probably have another blinder next week or something along those lines. A good captain thinks of the team first and himself 2nd - a good captain gallas aint
Yet again augie having a go at an Arsenal player. It used to be that one of the reason I hate it so much when Arsenal loose was the stick I would get from everyone I know who dont support the Arse. But now 1 of the first things I think of is that will give augie a reason to have a dig. I have never known an Arsenal fan who takes so much enjoyment out of having a go at ANY Arsenal player. I'm sorry that events overtook your chance to have a go at our keeper about the 1st goal. Is any player safe from your stick? I know you are entitled to your opinion and I dont question the fact you are an inteligent bloke but why can't you give the players and manager some credit some times.
For what it's worth I think a lot of people on here are slagging the media off for making a big deal about what AW said etc then calling our own captain a tosser and worse for sitting down and cooling down instead of blowing his top at a young player live on TV. What he did ain't perfect but for f*cks sake get over it. He want's to win, I think if we had 11 Gallas in our team we would win the league every year. I just hope when any of you make a fuck up at work or school you think it's ok for people to call you every name under the sun. But lets be honest none of you would do it to his face.
I will feel free to have a go at any player if I see fit and today was one such occasion. I can just about accept his reaction when the penalty decision was made but his hissy fit at the final whistle was embarrassing pure and simple. Is gallas staying away from his team-mates after such an emotionally upsetting game the right thing to do ? It fucking isnt. This is a team game and you win and lose as a team at all times and it is vital that in times of adversity the team sticks together and gallas betrayed that ethos at the final whistle today big time
We have been priviledged to see some outstanding captains represent this club down the years (TA6, frank mclintock etc) who would lay down their lives for the club and their team-mates and gallas's actions today fall well short in my opinion. If he came out tomorrow and apologised for his reactions at full time(which of course he wont) then I could accept that.
You however southampton gooner are beginning to get on my tits - I have had some debates with the "sun is shining" crew on here but your viewpoint makes them look negative Should someone be above criticism just because they play for the club ? I do not believe so and feel 100% right to knock the captains reaction here and in case it skipped your attention I aint alone in that line of thought either. I havent however, as many have done today, called either ade or clichy a *word censored* which seems to have also escaped your attention. You seem to be happy to score cheap points bringing up other criticisms I have made in the past instead of using your own intelligence to argue the point in question here. Are you trying to score cheap brownie points with some of the other regulars onn this forum by knocking the so called negative voice of doom and gloom ? As I have stated many times before I have no problem with members arguing with me on whatever point is being discussed but do so on its merits and not from any previous history/opinions you have with me - that just makes you look like a sad *word censored* and as I have stated above there were other members that have gone further today by calling our players *word censored* than I ever have but jumping all over them isnt as fashionable as having a pop at old meldrew is it ?
I've posted this on another thread already but this is about Gallas too so I'll post here as well
After watching the highlights in greater detail on TV, I won't condemn Gallas at all. He is a human being. I think the emotions have been building up for him.
1) Ade and Nik spat at WHL and the embarrassing thrashing
2) Sagna's brother dies and Arsenal don't show up for the Man Utd match
Birmingham match was the last straw for him
1) Eduardo's painful leg break
2) The free-kick was not a free-kick as Gallas himself shielded the ball while McFadden stumbled onto Flamini
3) Ade doesn't pass to Nik which echoes the WHL incident
4) Clichy falls asleep but then fairly wins the ball back but a penalty is given nevertheless
I know some people will say that I am just defending him at any costs and clutching at straws. But I believe that his inability to do anything about these situations had hurt him a lot. If all of our team had the same spirit as Gallas, we'd be a better team. I am 100% behind Gallas who is our proper captain.
So I say "I know you are entitled to your opinion and I dont question the fact you are an inteligent bloke" and your reply is "that just makes you look like a sad c**t". OK I'm sorry I was wrong. I just find it hard that someone who says they love Arsenal can get so much pleasure out of kicking them when they are down. But thats just my opinion. I'm not going to start calling you a c**t cos I'm better than that.
But you go on about great captains like TA6 who is my fav player EVER but what would you say about him if he had just been done for drink driving of fighting in a night club? Does that set a good exaple to the other players?
"Are you trying to score cheap brownie points with some of the other regulars onn this forum" I dont have a clue what your going on about. If other members have had a go at you maybe it's time you looked in the mirror not take a cheap dig at me.
We are never going to get on I have a live and let live attitude I thought the whole Arsenal at Manure when Keown etc got done was handbags and should of been a slap wrist and forgoten. Gallas did something out of character and got upset at the end of a game where he had seen a mate receive quite possibly a carrier ending injury. He sat down on the grass and got upset. Big fucking deal as I said before GET OVER IT. He was a good player before today and he will be a good player next week. What that twat did to Ede today is unforgivable not doing what everyone else thinks you should do and sitting on the grass while upset is very forgivable.
[quote="southampton gooner"]So I say "I know you are entitled to your opinion and I dont question the fact you are an inteligent bloke" and your reply is "that just makes you look like a sad c**t". OK I'm sorry I was wrong. I just find it hard that someone who says they love Arsenal can get so much pleasure out of kicking them when they are down. But thats just my opinion. I'm not going to start calling you a c**t cos I'm better than that.
At what point did I say that I get pleasure knocking either the player or the club ? The fact that I call what the evidence in front of me eyes shows me doesnt mean that I enjoy it even 1 little jot but I am never going to stick my head in the sand.
But you go on about great captains like TA6 who is my fav player EVER but what would you say about him if he had just been done for drink driving of fighting in a night club? Does that set a good exaple to the other players?
You are not comparing 2 likes there for me - what TA6 did was away from the pitch and was a personal issue but what gallas did was an on pitch/team issue that he wanted to deal with on his own. If an ordinary player reacted like he did at the final whistle then it would not accept me as much but he is captain for christ sake and should have had more consideration for his team-mates not just himself. I have zero doubt that each and every player there was deeply affected by the injury to eduardo but to I have to say that I believe that his reaction at the final whistle was more down to lost points than anything else.
"Are you trying to score cheap brownie points with some of the other regulars onn this forum" I dont have a clue what your going on about. If other members have had a go at you maybe it's time you looked in the mirror not take a cheap dig at me.
As I stated in my previous response many many members have expressed the same opinion as me re gallas and sadly some went even further by calling 2 of our other players *word censored*. Did I read anywhere you calling these members out and slating them saying how disloyal they are to crticise ? I have gained a victor meldrew tag(which you are well aware of) on here cos of my negative/realistic viewpoint at times and 99% of the time I am ok with that - when I look in the mirror I see a person that is opinionated yes, but also someone who speaks honestly and I know that I may not always be right but I can live with that. I will not accept being singled out as a negative force on the brum game when soooo many others went so much further than me in their comments so I do feel that annoyed that you single out my contribution. Did I see you debate me over my logic ? No. All I saw/read was another fan knocking me for criticising our beloved team because he clearly believes we should never do such a thing and when he does it himself he calls it a slip ?? For fucks sake if you think that you have reason to complain you should do so - you seem to put these players up on some sort of emotional pedastal beyond any criticism and I dont. I judge these players by the same standards I do anyone else in life and as a fan of over 30 years I do feel entitled to knock a player when necessary.
We are never going to get on I have a live and let live attitude I thought the whole Arsenal at Manure when Keown etc got done was handbags and should of been a slap wrist and forgoten. Gallas did something out of character and got upset at the end of a game where he had seen a mate receive quite possibly a carrier ending injury. He sat down on the grass and got upset. Big fucking deal as I said before GET OVER IT. He was a good player before today and he will be a good player next week. What that twat did to Ede today is unforgivable not doing what everyone else thinks you should do and sitting on the grass while upset is very forgivable.
Totally agree with you re old trafford but again what I seen there was a team sticking TOGETHER in a crux scenario as opposed to what gallas did. I totally agree also that gallas is a top defender but my knock on him is and always has been here is on his performance and attitude as captain and in my opinion he let his team down today in that regard.
Sorry, but I feel I have to jump in here. I don't agree with alot of what Augie posts on here, but I will defend to the death his right to post his views. This forum seems to be getting more about people scoring points off each other than open debate.
Lads, drop the pedantics of who wrote what about who. The very fact we are all on here would say to me we are all real (whatever that is) Gooners and that Arsenal are a huge part of all our lives. If we all had the same opinions then this forum would be mind numbingly boring.
As for Gallas, I thought his attitude was unprofessional but understandable, given what had unfolded in that game. He is only human. I think Wenger will let him cool down and then take him aside and talk to him.
The really annoying thing about yesterday is the f*cking media will now start the whole "Arsenal - club in crisis" {(c) The Sun} shite now...
You cannot excuse his behaviour by citing his admireable desire to win.. He made a total *word censored* of himself and the club on a day that we all had more important things to worry about than his hurt feelings. He should have been in that dressing room straight away after the game telling clichy that he has had a fab season and will probably have another blinder next week or something along those lines. A good captain thinks of the team first and himself 2nd - a good captain gallas aint 
