Can You Believe our Manager said this....

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RoscommonGooner wrote:
hugh jardon wrote:There are dozens of other anti-AW threads and even the AW quote thread(s) all these repeat threads droning on about the same old dross and you lot moan about USmartin!
hugh is right. What we should do is, every time Wenger fucks up of makes a stupid statement one of us should put it in our sig. Something like
City 3-0 Arsenal - £100 at 16-1 = £1600 - Cheers Arsene!!!
:barscarf: :lol:

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Post by 1989 »

It's just a matter of time till the fucker is gone. We waited 5 years, we can wait a few more months.

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The last few weeks have seen me depressed more than angry over this never ending wenger nightmare continuing :cry: I dont see the point in me getting would up by his ongoing failure's and his inability to shut his mouth and not give the press any more reason to ridicule him and our club especially when the team is already giving them enough ammo as it is :roll:

The one thing I cannot fathom though is the club's totally reluctance to haul wenger and the old *word censored* phw over the coals for their incessant bullshit public ramblings. For a club that is supposedly as public image conscious as our's you would have to wonder why nothing has been done to curb this. I suppose you could argue with some vindication that after their willingness to bring that woman hat shop owner to court in seville that the days of class are long gone for our club but surely they can see that public image will affect their ability to sell the club in a sponsorship negotiation ? :o If this aspect is getting by un-noticed or unaddressed by kroenke and ivan then it is safe to say that this club is gonna keep going down the same road as we have travelled for the past few years with means more hardship for our fans :cry: :cry: :cry:

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I am no rose-tinter but all I am suggesting is that it gets a little tiresome reading thread after thread of the same tired opinion or topic (basically "AW has lost the plot" or "AW said this" threads).

I too am concerned at the current goings on at the club but I struggle to see the point in posting or reading repeat thread after repeat thread of the same regurgitated subject (especially the copied and paste lazy rubbish).

Just an observation.

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hugh jardon wrote:I am no rose-tinter but all I am suggesting is that it gets a little tiresome reading thread after thread of the same tired opinion or topic (basically "AW has lost the plot" or "AW said this" threads).

I too am concerned at the current goings on at the club but I struggle to see the point in posting or reading repeat thread after repeat thread of the same regurgitated subject (especially the copied and paste lazy rubbish).

Just an observation.
I agree, and we mods are trying to limit the number of repeat threads but basically we can't tell people what to post, and by the very nature of the forum alot of threads end up going over old ground.

But we do lock the more obvious repeat threads and we do get whined at by many many vanity posters that just cannot believe we would lock their all-so-important missives... ain't that right Swale? :lol: :wink:

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He is right in what he says, in the sense of people not looking at the bigger picture. What he is saying is that people make knee jerk reactions based on one performance. for example at the start of last season Chelsea won almost all their opening 6 or 7 games, scoring so many goals, and pundits were saying how Chelsea would win the league easily and how they were miles ahead of everyone. In actual fact things changed and they turned out to have a poor spell which wrecked their season, finishing third in the end!

Another example is Gareth Bale, after that hat-trick against Inter people were literally saying he was the best in the World...on one performance! has he continued to set the world alight? No!

People make judgements so quickly when in football especially, things can change so quickly!

I dont think people need to apologise for making assumptions, but i do understand what Wenger is saying.

Thats my take on it anyway

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Swale_Gooner1985 wrote:He is right in what he says, in the sense of people not looking at the bigger picture. What he is saying is that people make knee jerk reactions based on one performance. for example at the start of last season Chelsea won almost all their opening 6 or 7 games, scoring so many goals, and pundits were saying how Chelsea would win the league easily and how they were miles ahead of everyone. In actual fact things changed and they turned out to have a poor spell which wrecked their season, finishing third in the end!

Another example is Gareth Bale, after that hat-trick against Inter people were literally saying he was the best in the World...on one performance! has he continued to set the world alight? No!

People make judgements so quickly when in football especially, things can change so quickly!

I dont think people need to apologise for making assumptions, but i do understand what Wenger is saying.

Thats my take on it anyway
Errrr sorry but with all due respect, what the bloody hell are you on about? How is Wenger in any method correct? He is ARSENAL manager. He intimated that HE was owed some sort of apology. How does he have a point? Since the examples you provided related exclusively to Chelsea, Gareth Bale etc.

Here are some facts for you

- Slating a manager who has been incompetent for seven years is not knee-jerk. It is long overdue.
- Slating a manager who continues to beat his own tactical ineptitude season after season is not knee-jerk. It is long overdue
- Hammering a manager for being the first in history to throw a 4 goal lead is not knee-jerk. There's a reason it had never happened in PL history!
- Losing a match EIGHT TWO means you should be sacked, IF you are managing a big club. No big club ever ever permits any manager to lose 8-2 to a so-called title rival and get away with it. This is one situation where you are permitted to be knee-jerk. He should have been sacked after that.
- Why is it that Wenger apologists always feel the need to 'interpret' what Wenger says? I'm not having a pop at you mate but you seemed to be going to great lengths to try and say 'I think Arsene means'...what he is saying is quite clear. No interpretation needed. He is saying HE is owed an apology, and intimating that he is right. This pathetic comment comes weeks after losing 8-2.
- The pundits have been saying since 2005 that Arsenal were a spent force with no ambition and that they'd win nothing and lose their best performers. So tell me....were they 'knee jerk' about that one too then? Or has time proven them to be 100% correct, and Wenger 100% retarded?

People have not rushed to judgment with Wenger. What they have done, is watch a once highly competent manager overnight become an arrogant tosser who has believed his own press and hype so much, that he felt infallible. He has used a club to stimulate his ego and he's failed. The more he fails, the more entrenched he becomes. The media don't get many things right but Wenger's impending failure was so fucking obvious that every single media outlet called it spot on. That's how obvious it was Wenger was finished as an elite manager years ago.

Elite managers win things. Losers are content with second place for the next twenty years. Wenger is talking absolute shit.

He owes the Arsenal fans thousands of apologies, and he should be made to pay the 6.5% price rise equivalent (is that not £2 and a bit mil) out of his own pocket. If wages in football are such an outrage then perhaps this c**t should take his own advice and not pay himself more than Guardiola, Ferguson and Hiddink - ALL superior managers to him.

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Babatunde wrote:
Swale_Gooner1985 wrote:He is right in what he says, in the sense of people not looking at the bigger picture. What he is saying is that people make knee jerk reactions based on one performance. for example at the start of last season Chelsea won almost all their opening 6 or 7 games, scoring so many goals, and pundits were saying how Chelsea would win the league easily and how they were miles ahead of everyone. In actual fact things changed and they turned out to have a poor spell which wrecked their season, finishing third in the end!

Another example is Gareth Bale, after that hat-trick against Inter people were literally saying he was the best in the World...on one performance! has he continued to set the world alight? No!

People make judgements so quickly when in football especially, things can change so quickly!

I dont think people need to apologise for making assumptions, but i do understand what Wenger is saying.

Thats my take on it anyway
Errrr sorry but with all due respect, what the bloody hell are you on about? How is Wenger in any method correct? He is ARSENAL manager. He intimated that HE was owed some sort of apology. How does he have a point? Since the examples you provided related exclusively to Chelsea, Gareth Bale etc.

Here are some facts for you

- Slating a manager who has been incompetent for seven years is not knee-jerk. It is long overdue.
- Slating a manager who continues to beat his own tactical ineptitude season after season is not knee-jerk. It is long overdue
- Hammering a manager for being the first in history to throw a 4 goal lead is not knee-jerk. There's a reason it had never happened in PL history!
- Losing a match EIGHT TWO means you should be sacked, IF you are managing a big club. No big club ever ever permits any manager to lose 8-2 to a so-called title rival and get away with it. This is one situation where you are permitted to be knee-jerk. He should have been sacked after that.
- Why is it that Wenger apologists always feel the need to 'interpret' what Wenger says? I'm not having a pop at you mate but you seemed to be going to great lengths to try and say 'I think Arsene means'...what he is saying is quite clear. No interpretation needed. He is saying HE is owed an apology, and intimating that he is right. This pathetic comment comes weeks after losing 8-2.
- The pundits have been saying since 2005 that Arsenal were a spent force with no ambition and that they'd win nothing and lose their best performers. So tell me....were they 'knee jerk' about that one too then? Or has time proven them to be 100% correct, and Wenger 100% retarded?

People have not rushed to judgment with Wenger. What they have done, is watch a once highly competent manager overnight become an arrogant tosser who has believed his own press and hype so much, that he felt infallible. He has used a club to stimulate his ego and he's failed. The more he fails, the more entrenched he becomes. The media don't get many things right but Wenger's impending failure was so fucking obvious that every single media outlet called it spot on. That's how obvious it was Wenger was finished as an elite manager years ago.

Elite managers win things. Losers are content with second place for the next twenty years. Wenger is talking absolute shit.

He owes the Arsenal fans thousands of apologies, and he should be made to pay the 6.5% price rise equivalent (is that not £2 and a bit mil) out of his own pocket. If wages in football are such an outrage then perhaps this c**t should take his own advice and not pay himself more than Guardiola, Ferguson and Hiddink - ALL superior managers to him.


Bapa – I don’t know where you came from or indeed if you’re an alias of another forum member but by fuck is that music to my ears.

I challenge anyone to defend that. Infact I am going to print it off and push it in the face of any akb muggy *word censored* I speak too

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hugh jardon wrote:I am no rose-tinter but all I am suggesting is that it gets a little tiresome reading thread after thread of the same tired opinion or topic (basically "AW has lost the plot" or "AW said this" threads).

I too am concerned at the current goings on at the club but I struggle to see the point in posting or reading repeat thread after repeat thread of the same regurgitated subject (especially the copied and paste lazy rubbish).

Just an observation.
Simple solution - don't read it!!! :roll: :roll:

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hugh jardon wrote:Another moaning whinging thread with nothing that hasn't been said a thousand times before ZZzzzzzzzzzz
Babatunde wrote:....

One thing that's clear is this tosser cannot fathom criticism. He's so up his own putrid arse hole he dreads the thought of the proles questioning him. He HATES criticism, which is why I sincerely look forward to hearing lots more of it thrown in his direction this season. This c**t should hide and not say a word - especially after that EIGHT TWO. He should be in a retirement home after Old Trafford.

Instead, yet again, this cuntwit comes out and dares give it the loudmouth.

Cock.
Harsh but probably true. :wink: :lol: :lol: :wink:

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Babatunde your a fucking legend mate

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I agree. Love reading Baba's posts :barscarf:

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:barscarf:

I'm sometimes happy sometimes lads, honest!

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Babatunde wrote:
Swale_Gooner1985 wrote:He is right in what he says, in the sense of people not looking at the bigger picture. What he is saying is that people make knee jerk reactions based on one performance. for example at the start of last season Chelsea won almost all their opening 6 or 7 games, scoring so many goals, and pundits were saying how Chelsea would win the league easily and how they were miles ahead of everyone. In actual fact things changed and they turned out to have a poor spell which wrecked their season, finishing third in the end!

Another example is Gareth Bale, after that hat-trick against Inter people were literally saying he was the best in the World...on one performance! has he continued to set the world alight? No!

People make judgements so quickly when in football especially, things can change so quickly!

I dont think people need to apologise for making assumptions, but i do understand what Wenger is saying.

Thats my take on it anyway
Errrr sorry but with all due respect, what the bloody hell are you on about? How is Wenger in any method correct? He is ARSENAL manager. He intimated that HE was owed some sort of apology. How does he have a point? Since the examples you provided related exclusively to Chelsea, Gareth Bale etc.

Here are some facts for you

- Slating a manager who has been incompetent for seven years is not knee-jerk. It is long overdue.
- Slating a manager who continues to beat his own tactical ineptitude season after season is not knee-jerk. It is long overdue
- Hammering a manager for being the first in history to throw a 4 goal lead is not knee-jerk. There's a reason it had never happened in PL history!
- Losing a match EIGHT TWO means you should be sacked, IF you are managing a big club. No big club ever ever permits any manager to lose 8-2 to a so-called title rival and get away with it. This is one situation where you are permitted to be knee-jerk. He should have been sacked after that.
- Why is it that Wenger apologists always feel the need to 'interpret' what Wenger says? I'm not having a pop at you mate but you seemed to be going to great lengths to try and say 'I think Arsene means'...what he is saying is quite clear. No interpretation needed. He is saying HE is owed an apology, and intimating that he is right. This pathetic comment comes weeks after losing 8-2.
- The pundits have been saying since 2005 that Arsenal were a spent force with no ambition and that they'd win nothing and lose their best performers. So tell me....were they 'knee jerk' about that one too then? Or has time proven them to be 100% correct, and Wenger 100% retarded?

People have not rushed to judgment with Wenger. What they have done, is watch a once highly competent manager overnight become an arrogant tosser who has believed his own press and hype so much, that he felt infallible. He has used a club to stimulate his ego and he's failed. The more he fails, the more entrenched he becomes. The media don't get many things right but Wenger's impending failure was so fucking obvious that every single media outlet called it spot on. That's how obvious it was Wenger was finished as an elite manager years ago.

Elite managers win things. Losers are content with second place for the next twenty years. Wenger is talking absolute shit.

He owes the Arsenal fans thousands of apologies, and he should be made to pay the 6.5% price rise equivalent (is that not £2 and a bit mil) out of his own pocket. If wages in football are such an outrage then perhaps this c**t should take his own advice and not pay himself more than Guardiola, Ferguson and Hiddink - ALL superior managers to him.
where does that quote say he wants an apology to him? it doesnt does it?! he just says people judge everything too quickly, on one performance, they think they know how everything will end up just from a few performances!! so the examples about Bale and Chelsea are absolutely right! where are you not understanding what ive said?!

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Babatunde wrote:
Swale_Gooner1985 wrote:He is right in what he says, in the sense of people not looking at the bigger picture. What he is saying is that people make knee jerk reactions based on one performance. for example at the start of last season Chelsea won almost all their opening 6 or 7 games, scoring so many goals, and pundits were saying how Chelsea would win the league easily and how they were miles ahead of everyone. In actual fact things changed and they turned out to have a poor spell which wrecked their season, finishing third in the end!

Another example is Gareth Bale, after that hat-trick against Inter people were literally saying he was the best in the World...on one performance! has he continued to set the world alight? No!

People make judgements so quickly when in football especially, things can change so quickly!

I dont think people need to apologise for making assumptions, but i do understand what Wenger is saying.

Thats my take on it anyway
Errrr sorry but with all due respect, what the bloody hell are you on about? How is Wenger in any method correct? He is ARSENAL manager. He intimated that HE was owed some sort of apology. How does he have a point? Since the examples you provided related exclusively to Chelsea, Gareth Bale etc.

Here are some facts for you

- Slating a manager who has been incompetent for seven years is not knee-jerk. It is long overdue.
- Slating a manager who continues to beat his own tactical ineptitude season after season is not knee-jerk. It is long overdue
- Hammering a manager for being the first in history to throw a 4 goal lead is not knee-jerk. There's a reason it had never happened in PL history!
- Losing a match EIGHT TWO means you should be sacked, IF you are managing a big club. No big club ever ever permits any manager to lose 8-2 to a so-called title rival and get away with it. This is one situation where you are permitted to be knee-jerk. He should have been sacked after that.
- Why is it that Wenger apologists always feel the need to 'interpret' what Wenger says? I'm not having a pop at you mate but you seemed to be going to great lengths to try and say 'I think Arsene means'...what he is saying is quite clear. No interpretation needed. He is saying HE is owed an apology, and intimating that he is right. This pathetic comment comes weeks after losing 8-2.
- The pundits have been saying since 2005 that Arsenal were a spent force with no ambition and that they'd win nothing and lose their best performers. So tell me....were they 'knee jerk' about that one too then? Or has time proven them to be 100% correct, and Wenger 100% retarded?

People have not rushed to judgment with Wenger. What they have done, is watch a once highly competent manager overnight become an arrogant tosser who has believed his own press and hype so much, that he felt infallible. He has used a club to stimulate his ego and he's failed. The more he fails, the more entrenched he becomes. The media don't get many things right but Wenger's impending failure was so fucking obvious that every single media outlet called it spot on. That's how obvious it was Wenger was finished as an elite manager years ago.

Elite managers win things. Losers are content with second place for the next twenty years. Wenger is talking absolute shit.

He owes the Arsenal fans thousands of apologies, and he should be made to pay the 6.5% price rise equivalent (is that not £2 and a bit mil) out of his own pocket. If wages in football are such an outrage then perhaps this c**t should take his own advice and not pay himself more than Guardiola, Ferguson and Hiddink - ALL superior managers to him.
Spot on Babatunde - especially the bits I've highlighted.

I love the way that AKB's or Arsene's apologists always look to interpret his words and either split hairs to sub-atomic levels or to intimate that they know what Arsene really means so why can't everyone else see it.

Arsene brings 99.99% of criticism on himself with the continual stream of stupid quotes that he comes out with. He could get away with flippancy when he was winning silverware but as a loser (a sore loser at that) his quotes will be subject to more scrutiny.

Arsene needs to remember that he is a football manager not a bloody philosopher.

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