I BLAME ARSENE WENGER

Post by **REB** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:23 pm

i watched the man u game and it was a stroll for them,, rooney and ronaldo on the bench fucks sake
we have now dropped 4 points in our last 2 games and im sorry but for a team challenging for the league then well its just not good enough,, and for a club that prides its self on been one of the richest in the world and who's books are great

then only one person can be at fault,, and that is arsene wenger ,, he's on sky now saying , ah we should have won and are missing big players,, bollocksand its a hangover from last week

its your fault that the squad isnt big enough mr wenger,, and before i get attacked by the wenger loyalists remember i love this man and he's by far the best thing ever to happen to our club but he's a right stingy bastard when it comes to spending money,, as if he has a point to prove for not spending to chelsea and man u

i want us to be the biggest club, to win the league and cl but aint going to happen with this squad,, rant over let the attacks begin

Gunnerz4life · Post by **Gunnerz4life** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:41 pm

Its a fair argument actually, given Arsene is being offered enough money to compete with by the board in the first place. We have to see where his philosophy of developing talent rather than buying it takes us this season and maybe the next. If we dont get the desired success maybe its time for both him and us to move on.

corkbarry · Post by **corkbarry** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:45 pm

What can one say,except agree, Manure have only lost matches when Shrek wasn't playing,yet rednose gives him and ronaldo a rest. Can you imagne the outcry if AW rested Ade and Cesc. I t makes one wonder is the money actually there to buy players.
Please turn it around against Milan and then unbeaten for the rest of the season.

Red Gunner · Post by **Red Gunner** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:49 pm

Gunnerz4life wrote:Its a fair argument actually, given Arsene is being offered enough money to compete with by the board in the first place. We have to see where his philosophy of developing talent rather than buying it takes us this season and maybe the next. If we dont get the desired success maybe its time for both him and us to move on.

You must be joking

Who would you want to replace Wenger?

And Rebel, what is your solution, who would you buy?

I'd want us to buy a world-class goalkeeper, proper left-footed left-winger and a striker. Problem is, top-class players aren't available in January. Hopefully we will sign players for these positions in summer. No point moaning right now and our season isn't even over yet.

Post by **REB** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:00 pm

i agree theres no point now
but the boss has to take the blame when things go wrong as well as take the plaudits when we win

aston villa have a bigger squad then us for fucks sake

Gunnerz4life · Post by **Gunnerz4life** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:06 pm

khalid_red wrote:
Gunnerz4life wrote:Its a fair argument actually, given Arsene is being offered enough money to compete with by the board in the first place. We have to see where his philosophy of developing talent rather than buying it takes us this season and maybe the next. If we dont get the desired success maybe its time for both him and us to move on.
You must be joking Who would you want to replace Wenger?

And Rebel, what is your solution, who would you buy?

I'd want us to buy a world-class goalkeeper, proper left-footed left-winger and a striker. Problem is, top-class players aren't available in January. Hopefully we will sign players for these positions in summer. No point moaning right now and our season isn't even over yet.

There arnt short of good coaches in the world. I dont feel anyone is indispensible to a club. Why not someone like Gus Hiddink?

Im a huge fan or Arsene, as big as they come really. Its possible that the board has not been offering him enough money to compete. However if its him who is the one not wanting to spend and if that results in lack of success, then you have to question that. Man United or Chelsea wont get weaker as our young player develop to be great playesr. They will keep buying the best players in the world. We will have to see if we can compete with them with our policy, if we cant, we need to change our policy and for that maybe we would need a new person in charge.

IW8Goalmachine · Post by **IW8Goalmachine** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:47 pm

i have been a firm backer of Mr Wenger but feck sake he has to spend some money on players the worrying thing is that this summer he might not and say look how well our squad done last season so they will be stronger this one! and thats not a good thing

Gunner4LiF3 · Post by **Gunner4LiF3** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:04 pm

Wenger needs to bring in a few players, just to show the automatic starters, like cesc, hleb and others that there is someone there to take their place if they underperform.

Lets get some competition for places going.

I hope Arsene stays with us for many years to come.
I dont think there is anyone better,

Red Gunner · Post by **Red Gunner** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:15 pm

Gunnerz4life wrote:
khalid_red wrote:
Gunnerz4life wrote:Its a fair argument actually, given Arsene is being offered enough money to compete with by the board in the first place. We have to see where his philosophy of developing talent rather than buying it takes us this season and maybe the next. If we dont get the desired success maybe its time for both him and us to move on.
You must be joking Who would you want to replace Wenger?

And Rebel, what is your solution, who would you buy?

I'd want us to buy a world-class goalkeeper, proper left-footed left-winger and a striker. Problem is, top-class players aren't available in January. Hopefully we will sign players for these positions in summer. No point moaning right now and our season isn't even over yet.
There arnt short of good coaches in the world. I dont feel anyone is indispensible to a club. Why not someone like Gus Hiddink?

Im a huge fan or Arsene, as big as they come really. Its possible that the board has not been offering him enough money to compete. However if its him who is the one not wanting to spend and if that results in lack of success, then you have to question that. Man United or Chelsea wont get weaker as our young player develop to be great playesr. They will keep buying the best players in the world. We will have to see if we can compete with them with our policy, if we cant, we need to change our policy and for that maybe we would need a new person in charge.

Hiddink is likely to retire after World Cup 2010. He said that his job with Russia is likely to be his last. Anyway, I am sure that Arsene Wenger will be tempted to spend in future as his patience will get shorter as he gets older.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:56 pm

rebel gooner wrote:i watched the man u game and it was a stroll for them,, rooney and ronaldo on the bench fucks sake
we have now dropped 4 points in our last 2 games and im sorry but for a team challenging for the league then well its just not good enough,, and for a club that prides its self on been one of the richest in the world and who's books are great then only one person can be at fault,, and that is arsene wenger ,, he's on sky now saying , ah we should have won and are missing big players,, bollocksand its a hangover from last week
its your fault that the squad isnt big enough mr wenger,, and before i get attacked by the wenger loyalists remember i love this man and he's by far the best thing ever to happen to our club but he's a right stingy bastard when it comes to spending money,, as if he has a point to prove for not spending to chelsea and man u
i want us to be the biggest club, to win the league and cl but aint going to happen with this squad,, rant over let the attacks begin

Agree! Some of us were begging him to strenthen last Summer when a Winger and a CD would have been just the ticket. He had a further chance in January and still declined to take the chance.

Worst of all were his programme notes today

Eduardo has barely started to mend and he went out of his way to rubbish the possibility of buying a striker for next season. Whilst we compete against the Mancs who buy Rooney, Tevez, Hargreaves, Carrick, Nanni, and Anderson and we are stuck with some teen dream from Gillingham.

Weren't we all assured that one of the reasons for the big move was to match the competition off the pitch as well as in it ?

Cus Geezer · Post by **Cus Geezer** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:06 pm

We have to see where his philosophy of developing talent rather than buying it takes us this season and maybe the next. If we dont get the desired success maybe its time for both him and us to move on.

I've heard some nonsense on this forum, but this beats most hands down.

We've drawn two games for fuck sake and only lost one premiership game all season.

Let's see where his philosophy gets us this season.......um well if not the title then a two places higher than last season and the season before that.

Ted B · Post by **Ted B** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:08 pm

cus geezer is talking common sense

DanielD · Post by **DanielD** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:19 pm

Cus, c'mon man. Second place isn't an option.

Think about it, with RVP and Kolo back in the next couple of games, we'll have some old/new blood coming to our game. I just dream on the amazing partnership between Togonator and RVP next week against Wigan.

If god (allah, mohamad, jesus, moses, pires, whatever) will be with us, we'll stay out of injuries and get the title to it's new home.

It's a Good thing Wenger can't play either Van Persie or Adebayor on the flank (he tried it once or twice with robin and to be polite, it didn't work out), so he don't have the chance to play fecking 4-5-1 again.

By the way, after spuds lose today at brum all we have to do is draw at wigan next week and St Totteringham day will take place.

Ted B · Post by **Ted B** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:25 pm

[quote="DanielD"]Second place isn't an option.[quote][/quote]

if i would have said to you at the START of this season, between all the DOOM AND GLOOM etc: "we will finish 2nd this season, take it or leave it?"

you would've bitten my hand of. am i right or wrong?

not saying that we should settle for second at all - lets fight those fucking tramps from mancs all the way - but we have to be aware that or stingy squad is OVER ACHIVEING till this day.

just a thought

Cus Geezer · Post by **Cus Geezer** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:31 pm

DanielD wrote:Cus, c'mon man. Second place isn't an option.

Let's go back to August and second place would have been very pleasing.

And frankly finishing 2nd place won't be - in fact it would be far from - the end of the world, it will be continued progress and I think a dead cert for next year.

Experience is a big thing for this side - Liverpool players of days gone by have said in the run in with sides who haven't faced such they had a psychological edge having been in that situation before - Fergie has revelled in a similar way calling the run in 'sqeaky bum' time.

You hope we get through this without such a hitch, but as with Man Ure in 1991/2, a failed experience of a title run in can come in handy 12 months later - I feel that we are good enough to be a certainty to return 12 months later being challengers.

And the suggestion that Wenger should move on if he didn't win the title over the next two years - look at his record

3rd
1st
2nd
2nd
2nd
1st
2nd
1st
2nd
4th
4th
likely 1st/2nd

How many mangers involved in English football could boast such a record?

Engage the brain and stop talking in the heat of the reaction to the previous game.

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