John Terry race storm?

[goonersid]

We have seen this a long time ago with Schmichael and Wrighty, the tv cameras quite clearly showed Schmichael racially abuse Wright, but it was decided, that lip reading his words could not be used as evidence of racist abuse.

[augie]

Maybe sid but 3 witness statements should clinch the deal

[LDB]

Clearly Anton Ferdinand reckons he was racially abused or he would have set the record straight by now, just a case of getting some witnesses.

Shame this *word censored* wasn't caught out earlier in his career

[Dan_85]

So... Song ideas for Saturday?!

[paperclip]

It's weird how much "no I didn't call you a..." looks like "HEY HEY HEY" when lip reading.

PS, I love the fact that when you type "John Terry" into youtube, the first options you get are

John Terry racist
John Terry Anton Ferdinand
John Terry knocked out
John Terry Penalty miss
John Terry Wayne Bridge

[Cork City Gooner]

It seems as though cousin Les has decided to get involved.
Proper order too.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... inand.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15474501.stm

[Supagoon]

guess he is a racialist then. Its not looking good for him is it. I gave him the benefit of the doubt after seeing the youtube 'evidence'.

In order to not sound hypocritical the FA better do something, we're very quick to point the finger at the spanish and the russians but it happens in our own back yard!!

[Percy Dalton]

Maybe sid but 3 witness statements should clinch the deal

In the paper this morning that QPR totally deny three players have given statements.

One of them was supposed to be Sean Derry but it turns out he wasn't even on the pitch at the time.

No matter, I have told the FA I heard it in my front room!

[safcftm]

It seems as though cousin Les has decided to get involved.
Proper order too.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... inand.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15474501.stm

From that telegraph article:

"The flashpoint occurred in the 85th minute of the match, when it is alleged that Terry mouthed the words 'you ******* black ****' towards Ferdinand.

Terry said that he thought Ferdinand had accused him of making a racist slur and "responded aggressively, saying that I never used that term". Chelsea have suggested that Terry only used the offending words as part of a longer sentence denying any racism."

So yep, they're sticking with the "what you saw in the clip is him calling Ferdinand a fucking black *word censored* but he was actually saying 'oh no Anton, I have never called you a fucking black *word censored*'" story

Fact is, Anton will now know if Terry is a racist- if Anton accused him initially of racially abusing him, then maybe Terry's response was "I never called you a..." but if Ferdinand knows he didnt make an accusation, then he will know perfectly well that Terry just racially abused him and is now trying to sneak and worm his way out of it like he does everything else.

TBH the man shouldnt be England captain to begin with- when he fucked his team mates wife that should have been enough to realise that he cant have the absolute trust of his teammates, which is vital for a captain. Either way, as an England fan who goes to home (sometimes) and away games, I agree with Les Ferdinand- I was at the under 21 tournament in Holland a few years ago and experienced the Serbian fans racially abusing some of the England lads and was sickened by it, we can not allow anyone representing a country as ethnically diverse as ours with as many black players and fans as we have to hold racist views. If proved that he racially abused Ferdinand (which I dont think it will be, the FA will sweep it under the carpet), I never want to see Terry pull on the three lions again, absolutely fucking shameful if true. As a footballing nation, we need to be setting an example with our lack of tolerance towards racism in the game and we cannot be seen to sweep it under the carpet or trivialise it.

[Percy Dalton]

I finf it interesting that no black Chelsea player has come out in support of Terry.

Cashley has said he didn't hear anything but at no point did he use the opportunity to defend his team mate and captain for both club and country.

As Wrighty said yesterday, if he is found guilty it will be interesting to see how his black colleagues react to him in the dressing room.

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

I finf it interesting that no black Chelsea player has come out in support of Terry.

Cashley has said he didn't hear anything but at no point did he use the opportunity to defend his team mate and captain for both club and country.

As Wrighty said yesterday, if he is found guilty it will be interesting to see how his black colleagues react to him in the dressing room.

The Guardian printed a list of all the "scandals" Terry has been involved with - from 9/11 to showing people round the stadium for cash (dont tell the club) to "renting out" his England box for cash (dont tell the FA).

I cant really back this up but i have a mate who used to work at WHL (he is a palace fan ) that said the whole incident with Ledley King was a massive cover up - it was widely believed he did say those things but it either couldnt be proven or they didnt want it widely reported in he public media. If you watch the incident on youtube, watch Ledleys reaction - he goes mad, while Drogba who would normally get involved - sort of stands there shocked.

Who knows, but as the old saying by Brian Potter goes - if you throw enough shit, some sticks.

I suspect this will never be proven - unless the FA are 100% they cant really do anything, and will any QPR player come forward and be invlved in one of the most shocking incidents in English (or even world) football?

[Percy Dalton]

To be honest it was Terry and co's mocking of American's during the 9/11 terrorist attacks that sticks out in my mind.

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

To be honest it was Terry and co's mocking of American's during the 9/11 terrorist attacks that sticks out in my mind.

Even shitty stuff he has done like Parking in disabled bays - i dont care if you earn 90 grand a week or 900 quid a year, some people are just utter *word censored*.

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

Anton Ferdinand just given his first interview (bbc sports).

He could clear Terry in 5 seconds flat.....but doesnt.

Villas-Boas could end up looking a right twat if this does go further.

[flash gunner]

Have you got a link for the Guardian report on the stuff he has done in the past? I cant remember much of it