Arteta

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:57 pm

Well done Mikel my old son. Another faultless performance in the middle today, Classy finish for the 3rd goal too. Not good enough for some, but good enough for me

Just like Denilson watching him control the middle today eh ?

BournemouthRED · Post by **BournemouthRED** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:58 pm

Well played arteta

Yankee_Gooner_Dandee · Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:01 pm

whoever it was that said denilson was as good as arteta needs to wake the fuck up, seriously. arteta had ANOTHER quality game today, controlling the midfield, and pacing it the way we need to. him and ramsey make a good partnership right now.

StokeyGooner · Post by **StokeyGooner** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:01 pm

SteveO 35 wrote:Well done Mikel my old son. Another faultless performance in the middle today, Classy finish for the 3rd goal too. Not good enough for some, but good enough for me

Just like Denilson watching him control the middle today eh ?

You've got a laugh at that comparison.

Yankee_Gooner_Dandee · Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:02 pm

and in my opinion his 10m fee was right about what he is worth, money well spent for once.

1989 · Post by **1989** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:02 pm

Babatunde wrote:
kiwomya wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:
Irish Gooner wrote:We needed to sign a midfield general like Barton who would scare our precious pampered babies and lead this team.

We got Arteta, who is not that. Now what can we do, this team has zero leaders so we wont win anything anytime soon.
Yeah Barton looked great at WHL when the Spurs midfield were zipping the ball around. Are you seriously suggesting that he would improve this side.

Should never have let Diarra leave. He would have been the perfect CDM - strong, athletic and mobile. But Arseneknows failed to understand that having rescued him from being Chelsea's reserve right back, that he didn't take kindly to being a reserve here. Strange that
Diarra had an attitude and didn't want to fight for his place.

Whether you like it or not, Flamini was flying that season and fully warranted his place in the side.
LMFAO

Kiwomya you've written some Wenger-loving corkers in your time, but this one is Olympic comedy genius! Flamini deserved his place ahead of Diarra eh? Great decision that turned out to be LOL. That would be Diarra who's good enough to play for Jose's Madrid vs Flamini who can't get a game ahead of geriatric Gattuso ha ha ha ha.

Flamini was in awesome form for us that season, but Diarra was played out of position at right-back. Flamini hadn't signed an extension and should have been bombed out with Diarra kept. It ain't revisionism, everyone saw it. He wasn't gonna stay, he was always going to leave. If Flamini 'deserved his place so much' then why did Wenger almost flog him to Birmingham that same January? Absolute nonsense.

Wenger fucked up royally that year. Absolutely inexcusable. And the way Flamini left us in the shit to get a higher paycheck elsewhere will always make him a *word censored* in my book.

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:03 pm

Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:whoever it was that said denilson was as good as arteta needs to wake the fuck up, seriously. arteta had ANOTHER quality game today, controlling the midfield, and pacing it the way we need to. him and ramsey make a good partnership right now.

Agreed. No doubt there'll be some over-analysis to follow saying that he made easy passes and was slow etc.

Mr. Consistent for me and in a side with Gervinho, Song, Walcott and Arshavin that are anything but......

1989 · Post by **1989** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:03 pm

Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:whoever it was that said denilson was as good as arteta needs to wake the fuck up, seriously. arteta had ANOTHER quality game today, controlling the midfield, and pacing it the way we need to. him and ramsey make a good partnership right now.

Comparing anyone with Denilson is an insult. Denilson is the worst midfielder I've seen in an Arsenal shirt.

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:04 pm

StokeyGooner wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:Well done Mikel my old son. Another faultless performance in the middle today, Classy finish for the 3rd goal too. Not good enough for some, but good enough for me

Just like Denilson watching him control the middle today eh ?

You've got a laugh at that comparison.

Hardly worth responding to is it....but felt the need anyway

Henry Norris 1913 · Post by **Henry Norris 1913** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:08 pm

I haven't seen the goal but he's clearly a very useful player. well done mickey my son

Post by **g88ner** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:18 pm

Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:whoever it was that said denilson was as good as arteta needs to wake the fuck up, seriously.

I think it was Baba and Hutchy08 who were comparing Arteta to Denilson.

Although, to be fair to Baba, he wasn't saying Denilson was as good... he actually said...

"I known he [Arteta] has more talent than Denilson this is undeniable. However I just do not see what he does that is so much better than what Denilson was doing"

Whereas Hutchy08 was probably on drugs when he wrote...

"Is arteta doing anymore than denilson was doing ... if anything denilson is better at that holding ...keep the ball moving, get it give it , simple passing game than arteta"

It's a game of opinions, of course but hopefully Arteta can keep steadily improving and his biggest critics will see he's much better than Denilson... but that, of course, will take time and performances.

We shouldn't forget that he was a new addition in a team that was lacking confidence AND he's had a torrid time with injuries as well... so he needs time to fit in.

Personally, I think - in the absence of Jack - he's a key player for us at the moment, as he gets on the ball, links the play and looks for the runners... a bit like Denilson, really (

) and in the longer term, I think he'll be an important squad player as Wilshere slots into the 'Cesc role' and Ramsey/Arteta rotate.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:27 pm

Did anybody not see how many times he gave the ball away in the first half against good opposition that would of been vital. Countless to say he also got himself out of a few situations.

Great finish for the goal..

clockender1 · Post by **clockender1** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:38 pm

Between Arteta and Ramsey we seem to be getting a goal a game from the midfield.

Add goals from Verm n Santos, and we look much more balanced now.

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:39 pm

bababullshit is right, arteta is no better than denilson.

arteta and ramsey are so fucking good that they make brainless song look like a decent midfielder. when song decides that he is messi and tries to go dribbling half the opposition, arteta is the man who keeps things steady at the back. he is an excellent passer of the ball and has the ever impressing ramsey pulling the strings up front. what a partnership.

honestly, i don't know what wenger will do when wilshere returns from injury, i don't know who to take out to leave room for him. rambo is looking like a better creator of chances than wilshere.

things are indeed looking better. we have three good centrebacks, two decent youngsters to steal song's position, and three good centre midfielders.

add some quality to our fullback and striking positions and we're good enough to reclaim the 4th spot

Yankee_Gooner_Dandee · Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:46 pm

brazilianGOONER wrote:bababullshit is right, arteta is no better than denilson.

arteta and ramsey are so fucking good that they make brainless song look like a decent midfielder. when song decides that he is messi and tries to go dribbling half the opposition, arteta is the man who keeps things steady at the back. he is an excellent passer of the ball and has the ever impressing ramsey pulling the strings up front. what a partnership.

honestly, i don't know what wenger will do when wilshere returns from injury, i don't know who to take out to leave room for him. rambo is looking like a better creator of chances than wilshere.

things are indeed looking better. we have three good centrebacks, two decent youngsters to steal song's position, and three good centre midfielders.

add some quality to our fullback and striking positions and we're good enough to reclaim the 4th spot

i wouldnt quite be THAT optimistic yet, but its looking better

I agree about wilshire coming back. he obviously needs to be in the team, but who do you drop? tough one to be honest. gotta drop arteta but then i think we get worse defensively.