As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Rugby Gooner wrote:We have all been at numerous games where a minutes silence has been asked for,all of which have been absolutely deserved,and,for the most part,respected.But has there been one,(or more) that has really stood out for you?
One of mine would have to be the minutes silence for George Best at Highbury.
I was in the North Bank.
Impeccabley observed and genuinely heartfelt,the hairs stood up on the back of my neck,and reinforced my pride in being an Arsenal supporter!!!
I refused to be part of a minutes silence for George Best - a waster who threw away his life at the expense of someone who could have genuinely appreciated the liver he was given. I went and stood at the back of the East Upper, inside the stand, and was joined by a good couple of hundred other like-minded people that had walked out of their seats.
Well isn't it great that your life is so perfect that you can stand in judgement of others. How about respecting his on the field achievements? Or would that have got in the way of your self-centred attitude?
I had no respect for the man, and am not a hypocrite, so I walked out. I am entitled to my opinion of the man, the same as you are. There is nothing self-centred about that. Mr Best, on the other hand, who threw away the donation of a healthy liver at the expense of the health of another person in need was clearly incredibly self-centred.
Are you not judging him by that post? If that's how the geezer feels, and he's entitled to that opinion, then he can go stand in the concourse if he wants. Would you have taken part in a minutes silence for, say, another wrong un... Justin Fashanu?
SWLGooner wrote:Are you not judging him by that post? If that's how the geezer feels, and he's entitled to that opinion, then he can go stand in the concourse if he wants. Would you have taken part in a minutes silence for, say, another wrong un... Justin Fashanu?
Thanks SWL. The thought that I had been judge did cross my mind, but I suspect the irony is lost. Hey ho.
I just think that leaving for the concourse was an excessive over-reaction, and has made the story all about you - which is the complete opposite purpose of said silence.
If somebody had killed my family or burned my house down, then I'd feel enough rage towards them not to have to endure their one minute tribute. But George Best? Okay, he had his troubles, but he wasn't a bad person, and it just comes across that you have very high standards. I sure hope you hold yourself to the same level.
This Is The Daybreak wrote:When Rocky died has to be the most earie and most emotional. Was in the days before twitter and facebook (I don't think I even had a mobile then) so remember arriving at Highbury and had no idea...it was only when I met up with my cousin at the ground who then told me the news that David Rocastle had passed away that I found out.
Really put a whole different atmosphere on the North London Derby and to this day is still one of the strangest atmospheres I've ever been in. The silence was wonderfully observed and remember seeing grown men with tears in their eyes, I had a lump in my throat...one of our true heros, sons and legends gone at such a tragic young age. And credit to the S**rs fans who respected the silence very well that day.
Remember being at the Valencia game in the Cl the following week and the showed clips of his goals,etc. with Rod Stewarts Forever Young playing in the background on the big screens at half time. The teams came out as it was still playing and I remember all the Arsenal team just standing there watching it. Very emotional and a huge roar went up when it ended. You could even see the players psyching each other up. We were 1-0 down and ended up winning 2-1 inc a screamer from Parlour.
This Is The Daybreak wrote:When Rocky died has to be the most earie and most emotional. Was in the days before twitter and facebook (I don't think I even had a mobile then) so remember arriving at Highbury and had no idea...it was only when I met up with my cousin at the ground who then told me the news that David Rocastle had passed away that I found out.
Really put a whole different atmosphere on the North London Derby and to this day is still one of the strangest atmospheres I've ever been in. The silence was wonderfully observed and remember seeing grown men with tears in their eyes, I had a lump in my throat...one of our true heros, sons and legends gone at such a tragic young age. And credit to the S**rs fans who respected the silence very well that day.
Rocky for me also - he was my one of my first footballing heroes. The most exciting player to come through since Brady.
I remember we were playing the spuds up at old Trafford the following week and I said to my dad that if the spuds fans did not respect the minutes silence it would be carnage in Manchester and at the motorway services etc.
In fairness to their mob they were impeccable for the minutes silence.
Bring Back Pires wrote:I just think that leaving for the concourse was an excessive over-reaction, and has made the story all about you - which is the complete opposite purpose of said silence.
If somebody had killed my family or burned my house down, then I'd feel enough rage towards them not to have to endure their one minute tribute. But George Best? Okay, he had his troubles, but he wasn't a bad person, and it just comes across that you have very high standards. I sure hope you hold yourself to the same level.
Who the fuck do you think you are? How dare you lecture people like that? What a clown you must be. Perhaps you need to understand that partaking in a minutes silence is a personal choice, not a mandatory requirement. I could have shown utter disrespect by standing there and talking incessantly throughout the whole thing, but that would have been genuinely disrespectful.
I rarely leave a post on the forum these days, and muppets like you are the reason why.
Don't think dvbrisgooner1 has done anything wrong personally. As he says, standing talking during a silence would be disrespectful but there's nothing wrong with thinking that someone like George Best is a selfish arsehole who threw away a second chance that someone else would have actually appreciated. Great footballer, but hardly a man worthy of a minutes silence IMO. I'd have probably just gone along with it like, but if you think he is undeserving of it and was a selfish arsehole then you're perfectly entitled to think that you don't want to be a hypocrite- if you choose to leave your seat then as long as you're not deliberately interrupting the minute for people who do want to respect the man then it's fair enough.
Bring Back Pires wrote:I just think that leaving for the concourse was an excessive over-reaction, and has made the story all about you - which is the complete opposite purpose of said silence.
If somebody had killed my family or burned my house down, then I'd feel enough rage towards them not to have to endure their one minute tribute. But George Best? Okay, he had his troubles, but he wasn't a bad person, and it just comes across that you have very high standards. I sure hope you hold yourself to the same level.
Who the fuck do you think you are? How dare you lecture people like that? What a clown you must be. Perhaps you need to understand that partaking in a minutes silence is a personal choice, not a mandatory requirement. I could have shown utter disrespect by standing there and talking incessantly throughout the whole thing, but that would have been genuinely disrespectful.
I rarely leave a post on the forum these days, and muppets like you are the reason why.
Ouchy, looks like I've touched a raw nerve. See you in a few months then.
Rugby Gooner wrote:We have all been at numerous games where a minutes silence has been asked for,all of which have been absolutely deserved,and,for the most part,respected.But has there been one,(or more) that has really stood out for you?
One of mine would have to be the minutes silence for George Best at Highbury.
I was in the North Bank.
Impeccabley observed and genuinely heartfelt,the hairs stood up on the back of my neck,and reinforced my pride in being an Arsenal supporter!!!
I refused to be part of a minutes silence for George Best - a waster who threw away his life at the expense of someone who could have genuinely appreciated the liver he was given. I went and stood at the back of the East Upper, inside the stand, and was joined by a good couple of hundred other like-minded people that had walked out of their seats.
Well isn't it great that your life is so perfect that you can stand in judgement of others. How about respecting his on the field achievements? Or would that have got in the way of your self-centred attitude?
I had no respect for the man, and am not a hypocrite, so I walked out. I am entitled to my opinion of the man, the same as you are. There is nothing self-centred about that. Mr Best, on the other hand, who threw away the donation of a healthy liver at the expense of the health of another person in need was clearly incredibly self-centred.
But let's be honest - that's an addict for you.
I'm no apologist for George Best, but we live in a culture that treats alcohol abuse and excessive drinking as one big joke.