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Percy Dalton wrote:You cannot count the play off games as they are an additional set of gamers on top of the normal league fixtures.
They are a cup event hence the knock out nature of them.
If they do it, they do it and it will be well deserved but it will never rank alongside doing it in the top flight.
Fine then - award the winners a cup entitled The Winners of the 4th placed to 7th placed Trophy - and take away the promotion prize. How can anyone claim its a cup when
a) you can only qualify for it based upon your 46 league campaign
b) the reward is promotion from the league
Their run ended when Peterborough dicked them at Old Trafford in the play-offs. If they want to come up with some contrived argument about it not counting as a League game then so be it. Will be a real honour to have gone 50 games unbeaten and still in League One - nice pub quiz question in 20 years
Can we then claim that we were actually unbeaten for 50 games (maybe more, can't remember the games after OT) due to the fact that the ref was a biased wanker?
Game 42 Walsall at home
Game 43 Notts County at home
Game 44 Charlton away
Game 45 Bournemouth at home
Game 46 Sheffield Wednesday away
Game 47 Chesterfield at home
Game 48 Carlisle United at home
Game 49 Notts County away
SteveO 35 wrote:How on earth can they not include the play offs ? Its the climax of the League season FFS.
Doesn't count.
I think the argument is that the Play Offs don't appear in the League records / statistics. For teams in the lower leagues, the yearly stats show only the 46 games played in the regular season and don't include the 3 Play Off games. I agree though that by losing what is essentially a League match, that should have been the end of their unbeaten League run.
If Huddersfield do get to 50 we can congratulate them and take the chance to remind the World what a great man Herbert Chapman was before we remind them that the record doesn't actually count!! And that our record included an entire season in the top flight, which will probably never be done again.
Jumpers....does that mean in the land of Arseneballs that we're in the middle of a 40 game unbeaten run. I mean you can't count all those "special circumstances" defeats surely ?
In Arsene's mind SteveO, we're League, European and World champions - each title having been won without losing a game, thus demonstrating our incredible Mental Strength!!
Charlton will beat them I think - unstoppable at the moment
But if they really want to claim that they managed to go 40+ games unbeaten without getting promoted then let them. How you can claim that the promotion winning game i.e. the Play Off final doesn't count, I'll never know.
Would they prefer to have been promoted or go unbeaten ?
What I don't understand is all the pundits going on about Huddersfield en route to break Nottingham Forest's record.
How can that still be a record since we broke it 7 years ago?
[quote="Chips and Chocolate"]What I don't understand is all the pundits going on about Huddersfield en route to break Nottingham Forest's record. How can that still be a record since we broke it 7 years ago?[/quote]
Chips and Chocolate wrote:What I don't understand is all the pundits going on about Huddersfield en route to break Nottingham Forest's record. How can that still be a record since we broke it 7 years ago?[/quote]
Football league record not top division
Oh right, the Premier League has its own status... Didn't think of that...
SouthCoastArsenal wrote:The thing about beating Forest's record is a total cop out.
Forest's was a top flight record, as is Arsenal's.
Arsenal's being different as the 1st division has changed it's name is a liberty.
By that reckoning, Liverpool have never won the title?
Thats what Sky would have you believe. They try to get rid of all evidence that there was ever top flight football before 1992 (until they thought they could use Man United catching Liverpool's all time record as a selling point for the title race, then they were happy to show it all the time before going back to pretending it never existed).
If they're going to erase all records when the name of the league changes then whats the fucking point, all the things clubs are doing now will be deemed null and void next time they change name again. Arsenal have the all time record for top flight football, Huddersfield can get the lower league record
