As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Gunnersaurus wrote:They are 3 quality players in a sea of shit, yes I do think that hence the posting, City can buy who they like, best striker in the league at the moment cost 3m, worst striker in the league cost 50m, get a grip as you say.
Sorry mate, your opinions are warped by a hatred for Wenger over any love for Arsenal making anything you say null and void as you can't be objective, its just hate, hate and hate, dull is being kind.
I could argue that your blind faith in a manager who is long past his sell by date, nullifies your opinion in a similar way. Dismissing someone elses point of view in that manner however is not a way to justify or defend your own.
As for hatred for Wenger, I will not dispute that, but it's my love of Arsenal and what he has done to the club over the past 6 seasons that fuels that hatred and indeed makes it burn hotter with every cringing interview, embarrassing excuse, every act of tactical ineptitude, every lie that comes from his mouth and every patronising piece of pr that eminates from him and his cronies.
And Willshire dominated the league? did he really? I must have missed that season.
Sid
Wilshire got 1 goal and 3 assists in the league surely that is dominating
Gunnersaurus wrote:They are 3 quality players in a sea of shit, yes I do think that hence the posting, City can buy who they like, best striker in the league at the moment cost 3m, worst striker in the league cost 50m, get a grip as you say.
Sorry mate, your opinions are warped by a hatred for Wenger over any love for Arsenal making anything you say null and void as you can't be objective, its just hate, hate and hate, dull is being kind.
I could argue that your blind faith in a manager who is long past his sell by date, nullifies your opinion in a similar way. Dismissing someone elses point of view in that manner however is not a way to justify or defend your own.
As for hatred for Wenger, I will not dispute that, but it's my love of Arsenal and what he has done to the club over the past 6 seasons that fuels that hatred and indeed makes it burn hotter with every cringing interview, embarrassing excuse, every act of tactical ineptitude, every lie that comes from his mouth and every patronising piece of pr that eminates from him and his cronies.
And Willshire dominated the league? did he really? I must have missed that season.
Sid
Wilshire got 1 goal and 3 assists in the league surely that is dominating
Gunnersaurus wrote:They are 3 quality players in a sea of shit, yes I do think that hence the posting, City can buy who they like, best striker in the league at the moment cost 3m, worst striker in the league cost 50m, get a grip as you say.
Sorry mate, your opinions are warped by a hatred for Wenger over any love for Arsenal making anything you say null and void as you can't be objective, its just hate, hate and hate, dull is being kind.
I could argue that your blind faith in a manager who is long past his sell by date, nullifies your opinion in a similar way. Dismissing someone elses point of view in that manner however is not a way to justify or defend your own.
As for hatred for Wenger, I will not dispute that, but it's my love of Arsenal and what he has done to the club over the past 6 seasons that fuels that hatred and indeed makes it burn hotter with every cringing interview, embarrassing excuse, every act of tactical ineptitude, every lie that comes from his mouth and every patronising piece of pr that eminates from him and his cronies.
And Willshire dominated the league? did he really? I must have missed that season.
Your whole argument is flawed because I don't have blind faith in Wenger but that is the only stick you can use.
I'm not a realist or rose tinter, I'm an Observationist.
Gunnersaurus wrote:They are 3 quality players in a sea of shit, yes I do think that hence the posting, City can buy who they like, best striker in the league at the moment cost 3m, worst striker in the league cost 50m, get a grip as you say.
Sorry mate, your opinions are warped by a hatred for Wenger over any love for Arsenal making anything you say null and void as you can't be objective, its just hate, hate and hate, dull is being kind.
I could argue that your blind faith in a manager who is long past his sell by date, nullifies your opinion in a similar way. Dismissing someone elses point of view in that manner however is not a way to justify or defend your own.
As for hatred for Wenger, I will not dispute that, but it's my love of Arsenal and what he has done to the club over the past 6 seasons that fuels that hatred and indeed makes it burn hotter with every cringing interview, embarrassing excuse, every act of tactical ineptitude, every lie that comes from his mouth and every patronising piece of pr that eminates from him and his cronies.
And Willshire dominated the league? did he really? I must have missed that season.
Sid
Wilshire got 1 goal and 3 assists in the league surely that is dominating
Gervinho is up there for having the most assists in the league so far, I guess you think he is dominating the league, this ain't fantasy football mate.
Last year Wilshere came out of the youth team, was perhaps our best player, held his own against most teams including Barcelona and perhaps became one of England key players, I guess his stats belittle his contribution by fantasy football logic but he really did prove to be very influential for club and country and didn't get into the PFA team of the year or win the young player of the year for nothing.
Sorry mate, you missed all that though didn't you.
Gunnersaurus wrote:By the way, I didn't say the team would dominate the league, I said they would, bit of a difference, Alan Shearer won one league title yet dominated the league, John O Shea has won it all but makes up the numbers, there's a difference, all 3 of those will go on to become big players at the club, Wilshere is already doing it or did before injury.
I'm sorry (serious hat on now) but how can one player, apart from the one they call Diaby, single handedly dominate a league.
When you refer to 3 players dominating a league you're indirectly refering to the team.
Shearer was unstoppable IMO, his team mates played a supporting role,that's what I'm trying to get at with him, no one could handle him in his prime and he didn't win much but was still at the top of his game.
Shearer WAS great in that position but he didn't dominate the entire league.
Gunnersaurus wrote:
Exactly, at last we now have some players who respect the club, Scezceny is another, they are few and far between, I like his attitude too, he knows he has to wait his turn and is not one of those like Coquelin, Bendtner or Fabianski who thinks a first team place is owed to them.
I made a thread about this, but then someone clarified the comments.
His "quote" about wanting to leave if he was denied a first team place was proven to be misquoted, he was saying he might go on loan again as it was the original plan for this season until injuries struck and he was asked to remain at Arsenal.
we need players like him and jenkinson who are arsenal through and through to stick by the club, there are the ones that will be here long time not people like a nasri's who people were practically queue'ing up to ***** off only for the tosser to jump ship for money
we want players who give there all for the club and love the club,
Gunnersaurus wrote:They are 3 quality players in a sea of shit, yes I do think that hence the posting, City can buy who they like, best striker in the league at the moment cost 3m, worst striker in the league cost 50m, get a grip as you say.
Sorry mate, your opinions are warped by a hatred for Wenger over any love for Arsenal making anything you say null and void as you can't be objective, its just hate, hate and hate, dull is being kind.
I could argue that your blind faith in a manager who is long past his sell by date, nullifies your opinion in a similar way. Dismissing someone elses point of view in that manner however is not a way to justify or defend your own.
As for hatred for Wenger, I will not dispute that, but it's my love of Arsenal and what he has done to the club over the past 6 seasons that fuels that hatred and indeed makes it burn hotter with every cringing interview, embarrassing excuse, every act of tactical ineptitude, every lie that comes from his mouth and every patronising piece of pr that eminates from him and his cronies.
And Willshire dominated the league? did he really? I must have missed that season.
Sid
Wilshire got 1 goal and 3 assists in the league surely that is dominating
Gervinho is up there for having the most assists in the league so far, I guess you think he is dominating the league, this ain't fantasy football mate.
Last year Wilshere came out of the youth team, was perhaps our best player, held his own against most teams including Barcelona and perhaps became one of England key players, I guess his stats belittle his contribution by fantasy football logic but he really did prove to be very influential for club and country and didn't get into the PFA team of the year or win the young player of the year for nothing.
Sorry mate, you missed all that though didn't you.
I'm not disputing his ability, and the stats comment was a joke that maybe went above your head, but to suggest he dominated the league is absolutely ridiculous, he had a decent season, peppered with good and sometimes disappointing performances.
I thought that you as an "observationist" would have seen that.
I take it your "observationist" activities didn't stretch to any other areas of the premiership, if they had you would have observed Jack playing first team football for Bolton last year.
Half a season at Bolton is still straight out of our youth team is it not? He wasn't a 10m signing from Everton with years of experience for example and was pretty similar to where Frimpong and Chamberlin are now ie young gifted players with great potential.
Ok, I agree that dominating the league is a bit strong but he dominated his area in plenty of games which is what I guess I'm trying to get at.
The three of them have it IMO, that's all, together they could be dynamite, you can't get away from that, you are having an Alan Hansen moment being dismisive when deep down you know they have more ability then most of the kids here that you know won't make it.
Gunnersaurus wrote:Half a season at Bolton is still straight out of our youth team is it not? He wasn't a 10m signing from Everton with years of experience for example and was pretty similar to where Frimpong and Chamberlin are now ie young gifted players with great potential.
Ok, I agree that dominating the league is a bit strong but he dominated his area in plenty of games which is what I guess I'm trying to get at.
The three of them have it IMO, that's all, together they could be dynamite, you can't get away from that, you are having an Alan Hansen moment being dismisive when deep down you know they have more ability then most of the kids here that you know won't make it.
Exactly "they could be" as opposed to "can't wait to see them dominate" as for being dismissive, we have been here so many times before only for "kids" with seemingly "undoubted ability" not making it. From alliadiere to merida to jet, the list is a long one. So forgive me for being sceptical.
So as for knowing deep down of their ability, well I have to say I don't, at least not based on a handful of games.
you're right, I should have done a stats check 
if they had you would have observed Jack playing first team football for Bolton last year. 
