Confirmed on the BBC on a 3 year deal. Good appointment for Sunderland and it looks like he'll get the financial backing he wants
Should be a interesting January transfer window
O'Neill new Sunderland manager
1989 wrote:Enjoy it matesafcftm wrote:Fucking get in, absolutely chuffed as fuck
...until he throws his toys out the pram and walks out.
he's a lifelong sunderland fan, he's going nowhere mate. By the way, whats the average length of time he has spent at a club since going to Wycombe? Could have sworn he's been at least 4 years at every club which is probably higher than the average tbh, but aye Villa sold players from under him and wouldnt give him the money to buy Scott Parker for 6m (and that would have been an awful signing!!) so because hes a man of principle and told them to go fuck themselves, he must be a quitter. Trust me, hes more loyal than Bruce, look at how many clubs hes walked out of- we're aboutt he first he didnt and even then its just because he wanted the pay offAye1989 wrote:Didn't know he was a lifelong Sunderland fan. Looks like a case of right man in the right place at the right time. Good luck to him.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15997197.stm
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 66336.htmlO'Neill, a boyhood Sunderland fan, has been regularly tipped for vacant jobs at high-profile clubs since leaving Aston Villa in August 2010 and was the bookmakers' favourite for the post.
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingha ... -20244733/There, in black and white, was a pledge from the people's choice - and the board's, it would seem - for the Newcastle United job: "To Margaret, I promise I won't manage The 'Mags', Love Martin O'Neill.". O'Neill confided on a visit to Wearside as the manager of Leicester: "I was a Sunderland fanatic as a kid because Charlie Hurley was my hero."
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 70706.htmlin England, when everyone was choosing their side, mine was always Sunderland. They're my old team. I supported them as a kid and Charlie Hurley was my hero."
Aye, one of Britains best managers is one of us, always has been. Not a die hard, but enough to know about the club and its history, enough to care (more than black and white steve bruce) and enough to get absolute loyalty from the terraces. Brian Clough was a Sunderland fan, he said he'd walk over broken glass to manage us and we stupidly never gave him the job (he played for us like, with 54 goals in 61 games before injury forced him to retire), thank fuck we haven't missed out on this generations CloughieMartin O'Neill was born and raised in Northern Ireland but confided on a visit to Wearside in his time as manager of Leicester: "I was a Sunderland fanatic as a kid because of Charlie Hurley." "King Charlie", as he is still known on Wearside, was a tough-as-teak, totemic Irish-born Sunderland centre-half and captain in the 1960s. He was voted the club's Player of the 20th Century. O'Neill used to follow Hurley's – and Sunderland's – fortunes, listening to a crackling transistor radio under the bed sheets while growing up in Kilrea.
Edit: heres the king himself at a Sunderland game- Martin O'Neill's hero loves SAFC and we fucking love him, the best ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mEGZ1pF-3I
Who's the greatest centre half the world has ever seen? Charlie Hurley is his name
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Rosie_titters wrote:Martin O'neill one of the biggest fruitcakes in the football world
he will take you to the dizzy heights of 6th in the league, get you too a couple of cup semi finals - and then you will switch on sky sports news and they will report - O'Neill walks out on Sunderland
enjoy it mate, whilst it lasts - but he is a bottle job, like Keegan and Coppell
As usual I will be the odd man (well Irishman anyway) out and will say something unpopular with my compatriots but fcuk it I will say it anyway.....I dont like martin o'neill 
For me if a manager has aspirations to manage an international team his objective should be to manage his own country first and if that aint available then he should be willing to look elsewhere but o'neill clearly see's things differently. The guy publicly ruled himself out of managing Ireland a few years ago and a few months later applied and interviewed for the england manager's job 
I dont have an issue with the fact that it was the england job he applied for but for me it was akin to redkrapp applying to manage germany or ferguscum applying to manage france etc and reeks of him being a judas mercenary to me
For me if a manager has aspirations to manage an international team his objective should be to manage his own country first and if that aint available then he should be willing to look elsewhere but o'neill clearly see's things differently. The guy publicly ruled himself out of managing Ireland a few years ago and a few months later applied and interviewed for the england manager's job I dont have an issue with the fact that it was the england job he applied for but for me it was akin to redkrapp applying to manage germany or ferguscum applying to manage france etc and reeks of him being a judas mercenary to meAt the risk of starting a debate, is his country not Northern Ireland since he was born there and played for them? I realise he's a Northern Irish Catholic but there's no reason why he should play for NI and then suddenly decide he should "represent" the Republic when in management. I can quite understand him not wanting to manage NI since they're never going to be able to challenge but to want to manage England is no worse, imo, than Capello managing England, Or Hidding managing South Koreaaugie wrote:As usual I will be the odd man (well Irishman anyway) out and will say something unpopular with my compatriots but fcuk it I will say it anyway.....I dont like martin o'neill
safcftm wrote:At the risk of starting a debate, is his country not Northern Ireland since he was born there and played for them? I realise he's a Northern Irish Catholic but there's no reason why he should play for NI and then suddenly decide he should "represent" the Republic when in management. I can quite understand him not wanting to manage NI since they're never going to be able to challenge but to want to manage England is no worse, imo, than Capello managing England, Or Hidding managing South Koreaaugie wrote:As usual I will be the odd man (well Irishman anyway) out and will say something unpopular with my compatriots but fcuk it I will say it anyway.....I dont like martin o'neill
Hiddink had already managed holland though so not quite the same scenario is it ? Do you think capello would have turned down a chance to manage italy over managing england ? Bloody well doubt it I have to say.
Anyway as much as I dont want to start a south v north debate either I will say that if o'neill was a player today I think he would, rightly or wrongly, probably declare to play for us but he couldnt do that back then. He was, in my opinion at least, a southern Ireland guy who also represented his county playing gaa but maybe I am wrong making that assesment and he would have stayed with northern ireland and I would totally understand (and maybe even agree) with that
On a seperate issue many of you probably wouldnt know that there is a fair bit of bitterness between the republic's fa and the north's fa over the last few years over a few players from the north declaring to play for Republic of Ireland. Anyway they played each other in a mickey mouse 4 celtic nation tournament in dublin and the northern ireland fans brought down a banner saying "stop stealing our players.....keep darren gibson"
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augie wrote:
On a seperate issue many of you probably wouldnt know that there is a fair bit of bitterness between the republic's fa and the north's fa over the last few years over a few players from the north declaring to play for Republic of Ireland. Anyway they played each other in a mickey mouse 4 celtic nation tournament in dublin and the northern ireland fans brought down a banner saying "stop stealing our players.....keep darren gibson"
augie wrote:
Hiddink had already managed holland though so not quite the same scenario is it ? Do you think capello would have turned down a chance to manage italy over managing england ? Bloody well doubt it I have to say.
Anyway as much as I dont want to start a south v north debate either I will say that if o'neill was a player today I think he would, rightly or wrongly, probably declare to play for us but he couldnt do that back then. He was, in my opinion at least, a southern Ireland guy who also represented his county playing gaa but maybe I am wrong making that assesment and he would have stayed with northern ireland and I would totally understand (and maybe even agree) with that
On a seperate issue many of you probably wouldnt know that there is a fair bit of bitterness between the republic's fa and the north's fa over the last few years over a few players from the north declaring to play for Republic of Ireland. Anyway they played each other in a mickey mouse 4 celtic nation tournament in dublin and the northern ireland fans brought down a banner saying "stop stealing our players.....keep darren gibson"
But aye, you might be right, he might have chosen to play for the Republic now. Maybe he just hates the FAI and couldnt be arsed with managing the country as a result, I know Keane always criticised them and maybe it was felt that they'd be a nightmare to manage for.
Anyway, either way I'm dead chuffed that he's finally joined us. Heres a video of me when it was announced:
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safcftm wrote:augie wrote:
Hiddink had already managed holland though so not quite the same scenario is it ? Do you think capello would have turned down a chance to manage italy over managing england ? Bloody well doubt it I have to say.
Anyway as much as I dont want to start a south v north debate either I will say that if o'neill was a player today I think he would, rightly or wrongly, probably declare to play for us but he couldnt do that back then. He was, in my opinion at least, a southern Ireland guy who also represented his county playing gaa but maybe I am wrong making that assesment and he would have stayed with northern ireland and I would totally understand (and maybe even agree) with that
On a seperate issue many of you probably wouldnt know that there is a fair bit of bitterness between the republic's fa and the north's fa over the last few years over a few players from the north declaring to play for Republic of Ireland. Anyway they played each other in a mickey mouse 4 celtic nation tournament in dublin and the northern ireland fans brought down a banner saying "stop stealing our players.....keep darren gibson"
But aye, you might be right, he might have chosen to play for the Republic now. Maybe he just hates the FAI and couldnt be arsed with managing the country as a result, I know Keane always criticised them and maybe it was felt that they'd be a nightmare to manage for.
Anyway, either way I'm dead chuffed that he's finally joined us. Heres a video of me when it was announced:
Whatever about managing Republic he managed Celtic so he will prob never be accepted as Northern Manager as unfortunately it seems it will take longer for peace to broker on that front
Most of Italy hates Capello and the feeling's mutual. On the other hand for some reason he loved English football and really wanted to manage England.augie wrote:safcftm wrote:At the risk of starting a debate, is his country not Northern Ireland since he was born there and played for them? I realise he's a Northern Irish Catholic but there's no reason why he should play for NI and then suddenly decide he should "represent" the Republic when in management. I can quite understand him not wanting to manage NI since they're never going to be able to challenge but to want to manage England is no worse, imo, than Capello managing England, Or Hidding managing South Koreaaugie wrote:As usual I will be the odd man (well Irishman anyway) out and will say something unpopular with my compatriots but fcuk it I will say it anyway.....I dont like martin o'neill
Hiddink had already managed holland though so not quite the same scenario is it ? Do you think capello would have turned down a chance to manage italy over managing england ? Bloody well doubt it I have to say.
On the matter of O'Neill, he comes from a strongly nationalist family and community and consulted them before applying for the England job. I think if they gave him the green light to do so that should be good enough for others to accept it.
