As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
LDB wrote:His style of play reeks of a lad who thinks hes far better then he actually is... all this dropping deep and drifting wide to "dictate play" crap needs to be well and truly drummed out of him if he is ever to be any use. Its probably partly a hangover from his coaching at Arsenal but i would say its mainly the fact he is deluded and thick as shit.
Still, nothing can excuse lack of effort. Did he even break into sweat this afternoon?
LDB wrote:His style of play reeks of a lad who thinks hes far better then he actually is... all this dropping deep and drifting wide to "dictate play" crap needs to be well and truly drummed out of him if he is ever to be any use. Its probably partly a hangover from his coaching at Arsenal but i would say its mainly the fact he is deluded and thick as shit.
Still, nothing can excuse lack of effort. Did he even break into sweat this afternoon?
Rugby Gooner wrote:SAFCTM,An Arsenal educated player gave you an early Christmas present there mate!
But to be fair,you deserved it,as Blackburn tried to sit on a 1-0 lead!
I don't rate Richardson though.
Thanks a lot marra. Dint want to go into it too much but that win meant the fucking world to me- one of my best mates phoned me a couple of nights ago to say his lass (who I love, sweetest girl in the world) had had a miscarriage and was in a bad way. This result means fuck all next to her happiness but knowing she was in pain was fucking horrible and adding a Sunderland defeat into the bargain would have just piled on the misery. When Vaughan scored I went mental, when Seb, who you have taught fucking well about free kicks! scored the winner I ended up hugging me mates and on the floor in tears. Compared to serious things football means nothing, but what a boost and what relief it can give you. Now I know i can be there for my mate and his lass and get them through it. Thank you Vaughan and Seb Larsson, I needed that more than you'll ever know. Fucking get in.
Rugby Gooner wrote:SAFCTM,An Arsenal educated player gave you an early Christmas present there mate!
But to be fair,you deserved it,as Blackburn tried to sit on a 1-0 lead!
I don't rate Richardson though.
Thanks a lot marra. Dint want to go into it too much but that win meant the fucking world to me- one of my best mates phoned me a couple of nights ago to say his lass (who I love, sweetest girl in the world) had had a miscarriage and was in a bad way. This result means fuck all next to her happiness but knowing she was in pain was fucking horrible and adding a Sunderland defeat into the bargain would have just piled on the misery. When Vaughan scored I went mental, when Seb, who you have taught fucking well about free kicks! scored the winner I ended up hugging me mates and on the floor in tears. Compared to serious things football means nothing, but what a boost and what relief it can give you. Now I know i can be there for my mate and his lass and get them through it. Thank you Vaughan and Seb Larsson, I needed that more than you'll ever know. Fucking get in.
Good thoughts to your mate and his Misses mate,good result for you today,a bit of Christmas Cheer!!!
Rugby Gooner wrote:SAFCTM,An Arsenal educated player gave you an early Christmas present there mate!
But to be fair,you deserved it,as Blackburn tried to sit on a 1-0 lead!
I don't rate Richardson though.
Thanks a lot marra. Dint want to go into it too much but that win meant the fucking world to me- one of my best mates phoned me a co
uple of nights ago to say his lass (who I love, sweetest girl in the world) had had a miscarriage and was in a bad way. This result means fuck all next to her happiness but knowing she was in pain was fucking horrible and adding a Sunderland defeat into the bargain would have just piled on the misery. When Vaughan scored I went mental, when Seb, who you have taught fucking well about free kicks! scored the winner I ended up hugging me mates and on the floor in tears. Compared to serious things football means nothing, but what a boost and what relief it can give you. Now I know i can be there for my mate and his lass and get them through it. Thank you Vaughan and Seb Larsson, I needed that more than you'll ever know. Fucking get in.
Good thoughts to your mate and his Misses mate,good result for you today,a bit of Christmas Cheer!!!
Cheers mate, hope you and yours have a good Christmas too- and hope Arsenal keep up the good form and get back into the title race
g88ner wrote:was Bendtner dropped, injured or suspended?
Injured. Not that we missed him. He's a good footballer but he'll go to Dortmund and do well there with a slower paced league, he'll probably never be what we need. Oh well, I wish him well, good player, just not a centre forward (which unfortunately is what we thought we'd signed)
g88ner wrote:was Bendtner dropped, injured or suspended?
Injured. Not that we missed him. He's a good footballer but he'll go to Dortmund and do well there with a slower paced league, he'll probably never be what we need. Oh well, I wish him well, good player, just not a centre forward (which unfortunately is what we thought we'd signed)
Still a cracking player mind- if we still had Bent, he'd be a brilliant addition. As it is we need him in the middle but he seems to think hes an attacking mid/ winger- some lovely touches but when hes meant to be in the box theres no point. Still, O'Neill has seen the team he supported as a boy win the first game in his charge, we all feel just like him:
The lad should have played upfront, he'd have outjumped Samba a few times!
g88ner wrote:was Bendtner dropped, injured or suspended?
Injured. Not that we missed him. He's a good footballer but he'll go to Dortmund and do well there with a slower paced league, he'll probably never be what we need. Oh well, I wish him well, good player, just not a centre forward (which unfortunately is what we thought we'd signed)
You're slowly coming round to what we've known for years then
He seems to lack motivation, and I do wonder if that's because he's been handed the big contract without having to earn it. He's had it too easy, and doesn't know how to graft.
I hope the penny drops and he turns his career around, as he has the talent.
Who knows, maybe Martin O'Neill's management style will bring something out of Bendtner that Wenger and Bruce couldn't, but my gut instinct tells me he'll end up at a big club in a poor league (Galatasaray, Benfica, Ajax, PSV, etc) or end up in Germnay at a club like Dortmund, Shalke, etc. rather than being a top player in a side like Sunderland.
g88ner wrote:was Bendtner dropped, injured or suspended?
Injured. Not that we missed him. He's a good footballer but he'll go to Dortmund and do well there with a slower paced league, he'll probably never be what we need. Oh well, I wish him well, good player, just not a centre forward (which unfortunately is what we thought we'd signed)
You're slowly coming round to what we've known for years then
He seems to lack motivation, and I do wonder if that's because he's been handed the big contract without having to earn it. He's had it too easy, and doesn't know how to graft.
I hope the penny drops and he turns his career around, as he has the talent.
Who knows, maybe Martin O'Neill's management style will bring something out of Bendtner that Wenger and Bruce couldn't, but my gut instinct tells me he'll end up at a big club in a poor league (Galatasaray, Benfica, Ajax, PSV, etc) or end up in Germnay at a club like Dortmund, Shalke, etc. rather than being a top player in a side like Sunderland.
He's an enigma mate. I like the boy, everyone knows that, and I think hes a really good footballer, its just that he seems to think he can play as an attacking midfielder when he cant. He should thrive being the main man, the best striker, at a club like us but even with all strikers out he's dropping back and we're thinking "hoo Bendy, if you go there theres no one to score whatever you do". For you he could play there with RVP upfront but its not where hes suited, he should be upfront, he just doesnt know it. I hope O'Neill grabs him and says "here lad, youre one of our most talented players behind Sessegnon but i want you in that fucking box, youre not messi, stop drifting out wide and in behind, we need you in the middle". If he cant do it he'll never make it with us or with any massive clubs like Arsenal etc, he'll be stuck going to good clubs in bad leagues and it'll be a waste of what is, sorry, a big talent.
I dont think its a lack of graft by the way- first few games he worked his bollocks off more than most players ive seen, he just slouches when it isnt going his way, its motivation with Bendy, not effort
g88ner wrote:was Bendtner dropped, injured or suspended?
Injured. Not that we missed him. He's a good footballer but he'll go to Dortmund and do well there with a slower paced league, he'll probably never be what we need. Oh well, I wish him well, good player, just not a centre forward (which unfortunately is what we thought we'd signed)
You're slowly coming round to what we've known for years then
He seems to lack motivation, and I do wonder if that's because he's been handed the big contract without having to earn it. He's had it too easy, and doesn't know how to graft.
I hope the penny drops and he turns his career around, as he has the talent.
Who knows, maybe Martin O'Neill's management style will bring something out of Bendtner that Wenger and Bruce couldn't, but my gut instinct tells me he'll end up at a big club in a poor league (Galatasaray, Benfica, Ajax, PSV, etc) or end up in Germnay at a club like Dortmund, Shalke, etc. rather than being a top player in a side like Sunderland.
He's an enigma mate. I like the boy, everyone knows that, and I think hes a really good footballer, its just that he seems to think he can play as an attacking midfielder when he cant. He should thrive being the main man, the best striker, at a club like us but even with all strikers out he's dropping back and we're thinking "hoo Bendy, if you go there theres no one to score whatever you do". For you he could play there with RVP upfront but its not where hes suited, he should be upfront, he just doesnt know it. I hope O'Neill grabs him and says "here lad, youre one of our most talented players behind Sessegnon but i want you in that fucking box, youre not messi, stop drifting out wide and in behind, we need you in the middle". If he cant do it he'll never make it with us or with any massive clubs like Arsenal etc, he'll be stuck going to good clubs in bad leagues and it'll be a waste of what is, sorry, a big talent.
I dont think its a lack of graft by the way- first few games he worked his bollocks off more than most players ive seen, he just slouches when it isnt going his way, its motivation with Bendy, not effort
To be fair to Bendtner though, if he sees himself as a creator and drifts around outside the box then it's the fault of Wenger and the coaches as that is something they obviously encouraged him to do
Hell, he played most games for us on the right wing! so is it any wonder he's never in the box? he's had the strikers instinct coached out of him, I reckon.
I wrote about a year or 2 ago, that we should either play him at centre forward of do the decent thing and sell him, as playing him out wide was no good for us and was sabotaging the lads career.
I think Wenger has been great for many, many players - but not Bendtner. All that time on the wing and sat on the bench has set him back big time, in my opinion.
Couple that with the large contract and cosy lifestyle he's had at Arsenal, and I think the enigma you're witnessing at Sunderland starts to make sense.
he's had the strikers instinct coached out of him, I reckon.
