As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
frankbutcher wrote:
Me thinks you doth protest too much.
hehe.. yeah, you're right. I don't.
I know he'll leave sometime. hopefully he'll stay for another season or two.
As much as I love him and want him to stay in Dortmund.. the money we will get for him will be reinvested cleverly and all will be good.
Copenhagen_BVB wrote:I'm sorry guys... but Götze will never sign for Arsenal.
Not in the January window nor in the summer window.
I think most of you are clever enough to actually know this.
The rest should take their Arsenal "glasses" of and look at the reality.
Götze will first of all not be sold in January. FACT.
In the Bundesliga, we simply don't rush into some crazy winter transfers and spent millions and millions of Euros. Maybe Bayern pulls it off ones or twice, or clubs like Leverkusen and Wolfsburg with big corporates to back them up money-wise.
Also, the Euros are coming up next summer. Götze could potentially play a vital role in the German squad. So why sell him now, when this market value could get a serious bump up?
Second, why should we sell Götze for some 20-25 mill., when we declined an offer of 40 mill. (wait a minute... That offer came from you guys!! Even if it only was a rumour)
Thirdly, and sorry.. most important. He won't go to Arsenal. He wants to win the league, the cup(s) and the CL. Thats just where his potentials are.. to play for a club who could actually achieve this. And atm, thats just not you.
Madrid, Barcelona or United. Thats where he'll go. I'm sorry.
Sammy seems really convinced.. I don't know where thats coming from. Oh sorry, I forgot. He got sources reeaally high up.
Maybe he's just trolling and some of you are falling for it?
I don't mean no offense. Really not. I just wan't to get some of you guys back to reality.
I was at the game a couple of weeks ago and absolutely loved it. You should work on your support though.. but I guess you know that.
Tomáš wrote:Hey Gunners,
Mr. Watzke, general manager from BVB, said yesterday the club will not sell Götze or Hummels, even for all the money of the world.
He said there is no offer and even for a high amount the club would not sell them because: 'We don't want to open a bank'
I saw Mario in The Bodhran last night. He was having a few pints of Guinness with myself, Number5, Gunnersaurus and LDB. He told us that he will sign in January and will live in Totteridge.
I saw Mario in The Bodhran last night. He was having a few pints of Guinness with myself, Number5, Gunnersaurus and LDB. [/quote]
Hehe...fantastic...but somehow I can't picture this nice, young lad http://www.mario-goetze.com/meine-news/
hanging out with some hard core Arsenal supporters and having a few drinks
Mr. Watzke, general manager from BVB, said yesterday the club will not sell Götze or Hummels, even for all the money of the world.
Yes, it is good to hear that sort of thing. It reminds me of when Arsene Wenger said 'Nicolas Anelka will not leave Arsenal'..........
He was sold the following day!
You have to remember that your directors etc will keep you happy by saying player a and player b won't be sold......until you get a great offer!
BVB have very serious debts still and were close to going bust. You WILL sell your best players, it's just a matter of when.
You have to remember that your directors etc will keep you happy by saying player a and player b won't be sold......until you get a great offer!
BVB have very serious debts still and were close to going bust. You WILL sell your best players, it's just a matter of when.[/quote]
Agree...we all know that about a managers behavior. Borussia has the finical control back. The club does not has to sell players to get out of the debt.
I think it is a matter of the right moment and of the transfer fee. I can't see it happen until at least the end of the season (and we have discussed already that the Euro 2012 will come and Götze will maybe be worth even more after playing a good tournament with the German national squad), only if there will be a ridicules amount of money on the table and that will not come from Arsenal (due to the missing money icon).
Pretty apparent how useful Goetze would have been today.
In regards to Tomas' post, I believe if we ARE going for Goetze, we need to put down the money now. Nothing inflates a player like a good international tournament performance (look at Arshavin for one of many examples).
Copenhagen_BVB wrote:I'm sorry guys... but Götze will never sign for Arsenal.
Not in the January window nor in the summer window.
I think most of you are clever enough to actually know this.
The rest should take their Arsenal "glasses" of and look at the reality.
Götze will first of all not be sold in January. FACT.
In the Bundesliga, we simply don't rush into some crazy winter transfers and spent millions and millions of Euros. Maybe Bayern pulls it off ones or twice, or clubs like Leverkusen and Wolfsburg with big corporates to back them up money-wise.
Also, the Euros are coming up next summer. Götze could potentially play a vital role in the German squad. So why sell him now, when this market value could get a serious bump up?
Second, why should we sell Götze for some 20-25 mill., when we declined an offer of 40 mill. (wait a minute... That offer came from you guys!! Even if it only was a rumour)
Thirdly, and sorry.. most important. He won't go to Arsenal.
He wants to win the league, the cup(s) and the CL. Thats just where his potentials are.. to play for a club who could actually achieve this. And atm, thats just not you.
Madrid, Barcelona or United. Thats where he'll go. I'm sorry.
Sammy seems really convinced.. I don't know where thats coming from. Oh sorry, I forgot. He got sources reeaally high up.
Maybe he's just trolling and some of you are falling for it?
I don't mean no offense. Really not. I just wan't to get some of you guys back to reality.
I was at the game a couple of weeks ago and absolutely loved it. You should work on your support though.. but I guess you know that.
Cheers from Copenhagen!
firstly why are you here?
secondly, just admit it, youre going to lose this player because you dont have the ambition despite him being a BVB supporter. i also find it funny that a you think that arsenal lack CL ambition, when your team hasnt even qualified and couldnt beat us. Arsenal would always be a better option than staying in BVB.
frankbutcher wrote:
Me thinks you doth protest too much.
hehe.. yeah, you're right. I don't.
I know he'll leave sometime. hopefully he'll stay for another season or two.
As much as I love him and want him to stay in Dortmund.. the money we will get for him will be reinvested cleverly and all will be good.
he wont stay for another season or two not that we care what BVB does with the money. is this guy a troll or something?
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