Wenger Out Banner

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:36 am

Good point Chippy but IMO any protest while we are playing those scummy *word censored* is beyond the pale, if we were to protest it would have to be after the game.

Post by **Chippy** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:52 am

Wasn't suggesting during the game, just making the point that for most gooners (with a brain), a poor run culminating with a bad performance against the scum in Feb will be a breaking point. Boos and chants after the game and perhaps the banner at the Director's box entrance?

Babatunde · Post by **Babatunde** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:11 am

Whilst I see Chippy's point, I genuinely don't understand the "spend some fucking money" chant?? For me it's yet another in a long line of cowardly chants that don't go far enough. The chant "spend some fuckibg money" doesn't make clear who the ire is directed at.
It implicates the board if anything more than Wenger.
Besides, what had that chant got to do with anything when Arsenal can't beat Spuds, Blackburn, Fulham and Wolves? All teams Arsenal are far richer than!

"Spend some fucking money"?

No thanks.

I don't want another summer of watching yet more Gervinhos, Mertesackers, Parks and Santos arriving.

"Spend some fucking money"?

He will go and blow it all on Moussa Sow, Salmon Kalou (as if Gervinho wasn't bad enough) and Andre Ayew. No thanks.

Even if he signed Villa and Higuain (LOL) he'd still play 4-5-1 at home to Watford and we would still defend like schoolboys.

Just like BSM it stops short of doing what is required.

The chant is simple:

"We Want Wenger Out".

Post by **Chippy** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:17 am

I'm talking about the art of the possible. We have a very good chance of getting quite a few thousand gooners chanting "spend some fucking money" followed by the very polite banner asking AW to jog on. We have zero chance of getting thousands to chant "Wenger out".

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:46 am

Babatunde wrote:Whilst I see Chippy's point, I genuinely don't understand the "spend some fucking money" chant?? For me it's yet another in a long line of cowardly chants that don't go far enough. The chant "spend some fuckibg money" doesn't make clear who the ire is directed at.
It implicates the board if anything more than Wenger.
Besides, what had that chant got to do with anything when Arsenal can't beat Spuds, Blackburn, Fulham and Wolves? All teams Arsenal are far richer than!

"Spend some fucking money"?

No thanks.

I don't want another summer of watching yet more Gervinhos, Mertesackers, Parks and Santos arriving.

"Spend some fucking money"?

He will go and blow it all on Moussa Sow, Salmon Kalou (as if Gervinho wasn't bad enough) and Andre Ayew. No thanks.

Even if he signed Villa and Higuain (LOL) he'd still play 4-5-1 at home to Watford and we would still defend like schoolboys.

Just like BSM it stops short of doing what is required.

The chant is simple:

"We Want Wenger Out".

But Baba, some of us feel as strongly about the board and Gazidis as much as Wenger.

Do I want Wenger gone - yes and have done for 3 years or more now.

Do I think that any of the candidates mentioned previously would fare any better under the management of Gazidis and the ownership of "Howdy London, how ya doing" Jimmy Krankee.......perhaps, but by no means certain.

Think I might dig up the posts advocating the Usmanov/Dein partnership from years ago together with all the mocking and vitriolic responses I had. Whose sorry now ?

bergkamp10 · Post by **bergkamp10** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:53 am

frankbutcher wrote:
tel wrote:The perfect time for this has already been missed. However I predict around March time when we're scrambling for 5th and out of all cups will be the time. Not long now chaps, Wenger has run out of ideas but timing is crucial.
How has it been missed? If we'd shown it in September, the Board would have backed Wenger and claimed that the squad needed time to gel.

In March / April time he will have no excuses. He has fucked it up and can look to no-one but himself for the reasons why.

Frank, your absolutely right, it's like watching kids sometimes. Why does nobody take the batten? I think seriously that we all need to accelerate the feeling within the supporters. Although I seen some pretty headed augments between fans already.

Personally I am not one to criticise or be critical of the team, I consider the amount we have to fork out now is way too much per season.

I know of many people to whom are fighting to keep company & staff afloat in these difficult times with cash tight. I feel the club ready doesn't take the supporters seriously any more, becoming more detached each season.

I know full well this is a business first and foremost, but feel all fans deserve better and would like to see these desperate times behind us...!!

Babatunde · Post by **Babatunde** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:07 pm

SteveO you're absolutely right about the board.
But Wenger is the problem first and foremost. Over Â£50 mil spent on garbage summer gone past. 4-4 Newcastle. 8-2 Old Trafford.
The wage increases to the shite players - no wonder what your thoughts on our board, they've backed AW in a way no other clubs would. Can you imagine the Glazers letting Fergie pay Darron Gibson, David Bellion and Obertan over Â£60k a week?! You crazy!

For me it's simple. Our wage bill is huge. We cannot beat Wolves, can't handle Spuds, lost to Steve Kean and get gimped by the Mousers at home. It's a footballing problem, not a directorial one there and it's all down to Wenger.

Getting rid of him should be First priority. Â£7 mil a year? He's draining the club. As soon as he goes then it will be the time to turn on that twat Gazidis and Kroenke.

Quick trivia for you though: who was it that rubber stamped the appointment of Gazidis? And who was it that turned down a far better candidate in Paul Donovan, because he would prove too challenging, and ask questions of the manager?

Oh yeah. WENGER!

augie · Post by **augie** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:08 pm

SteveO 35 wrote:
Babatunde wrote:Whilst I see Chippy's point, I genuinely don't understand the "spend some fucking money" chant?? For me it's yet another in a long line of cowardly chants that don't go far enough. The chant "spend some fuckibg money" doesn't make clear who the ire is directed at.
It implicates the board if anything more than Wenger.
Besides, what had that chant got to do with anything when Arsenal can't beat Spuds, Blackburn, Fulham and Wolves? All teams Arsenal are far richer than!

"Spend some fucking money"?

No thanks.

I don't want another summer of watching yet more Gervinhos, Mertesackers, Parks and Santos arriving.

"Spend some fucking money"?

He will go and blow it all on Moussa Sow, Salmon Kalou (as if Gervinho wasn't bad enough) and Andre Ayew. No thanks.

Even if he signed Villa and Higuain (LOL) he'd still play 4-5-1 at home to Watford and we would still defend like schoolboys.

Just like BSM it stops short of doing what is required.

The chant is simple:

"We Want Wenger Out".

But Baba, some of us feel as strongly about the board and Gazidis as much as Wenger.

Do I want Wenger gone - yes and have done for 3 years or more now.

Do I think that any of the candidates mentioned previously would fare any better under the management of Gazidis and the ownership of "Howdy London, how ya doing" Jimmy Krankee.......perhaps, but by no means certain.

Think I might dig up the posts advocating the Usmanov/Dein partnership from years ago together with all the mocking and vitriolic responses I had. Whose sorry now ?

You do realise steve o that when wenger goes diaby's future at the club will be going with him cos no other *word censored* would play this brainless injury crock dud ?

As regards the support of DD and Usmanov I am more than happy to say that I have always 100% supported that suggestion but only after we get shot of wenger cos DD will also stand by him

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:36 pm

I'm going to buy Arsene one of those king sized inscribed stones to place outside the Armoury. It will simply read:

6/8/11 "We want to add not quality, but super quality"
31/8/11 - Ju-Young Park. Lol

Geebot · Post by **Geebot** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:53 pm

Another soft goal conceded due to no TEAM understanding of defending yesterday.

Wenger has always relied on his own players to take tactical responsibility rather than actually teach and educate them himself.

The game has moved on and left him behind in terms of tactics.

The guy can develop decent players and has an idealistic footballing style, but he puts all this above actually winning trophies and games.

He has said it himself somewhere that he wants to be remembered for style. Yes style over substance. This is why we will not win another trophy under his management. HE has some excellent prospects at his disposal but that has been the case for 6 years now.

It really is time for someone to come in and actually win us titles and trophies.

Yankee_Gooner_Dandee · Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:57 pm

OUT OUT OUT I CANNOT STAND THIS FUCKER ANYMORE!

HE SINGLE HANDEDLY RUINS MY FUCKING WEEKS WITH HIS DUMB SHIT SUBSTITUTIONS, LAUGHABLE POST-GAME COMMENTS, AND OBVIOUS DEVOTION TO AWFUL PLAYERS. HE HAS NO EYE FOR TALENT. HE IS ARROGANT. DOESN'T PREACH DEFENSE OF ANY KIND. HE HAS THE TACTICAL PROWESS OF AN AMERICAN HIGH-SCHOOL "SOCCER" COACH.

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, OUT!

yes caps were necessary.

frankbutcher · Post by **frankbutcher** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:00 pm

Geebot wrote:Another soft goal conceded due to no TEAM understanding of defending yesterday.

Wenger has always relied on his own players to take tactical responsibility rather than actually teach and educate them himself.

The game has moved on and left him behind in terms of tactics.

The guy can develop decent players and has an idealistic footballing style, but he puts all this above actually winning trophies and games.

He has said it himself somewhere that he wants to be remembered for style. Yes style over substance. This is why we will not win another trophy under his management. HE has some excellent prospects at his disposal but that has been the case for 6 years now.

It really is time for someone to come in and actually win us titles and trophies.

^

THIS.

topgoon · Post by **topgoon** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:04 pm

I don't have much enthusiasm for fat russian/DD duet and have never advocated it.

I don't want this club to become a rich man's plaything and it doesn't need to.

We generated enough in sales off and on-field to be the foremost club in England and be right behind Barca. I don't think there's anything wrong with the youth buying policy but not keeping experience to to guide them is scandalous.

Usmanov doesn't fill me with much in the way of confidence when I think of Abramowich. It won't be long before he's picking the team and no self respecting manager will want that. We don't need a billionaire, we are a rich club with the richest fans but the poorest minds when it comes to forward planning and thinking.

As I said before when we cease to make money from being out of Europe's top competition then things will change.

In a way the scum,chavs and mousers have done the club far too many favours this season. I fully expectedcome Christmas they would be about 10-15 points ahead of us making top 4 a dream but sadly it still loooks a possibility.

augie · Post by **augie** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:23 pm

topgoon wrote:I don't have much enthusiasm for fat russian/DD duet and have never advocated it.

I don't want this club to become a rich man's plaything and it doesn't need to.

We generated enough in sales off and on-field to be the foremost club in England and be right behind Barca. I don't think there's anything wrong with the youth buying policy but not keeping experience to to guide them is scandalous.

Usmanov doesn't fill me with much in the way of confidence when I think of Abramowich. It won't be long before he's picking the team and no self respecting manager will want that. We don't need a billionaire, we are a rich club with the richest fans but the poorest minds when it comes to forward planning and thinking.

As I said before when we cease to make money from being out of Europe's top competition then things will change.

In a way the scum,chavs and mousers have done the club far too many favours this season. I fully expectedcome Christmas they would be about 10-15 points ahead of us making top 4 a dream but sadly it still loooks a possibility.

Right now we are wenger's plaything and I want an owner that will be ruthless enough to hold him (or any other manager) accountable for under-performing

We are currently owned by kroenke so we are already down the rich man's plaything route anyway but for me we need a more hands on approach from our owner. The yank appears happy with where we are and where we are headed but I dont envisage usmanov sharing that sentiment. I also dont agree that he would interfere with team selection cos I am damn sure he will be shrewd enough to realise that for the club to progress he needs quality people in all positions of our club (manager, players, marketing etc) and having interference from above is not compatible with that structure

frankbutcher · Post by **frankbutcher** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:28 pm

READ THE BOOK MONEYBALL. OR WATCH THE FILM. IT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING.