Arsenal: Class or No Class?

As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
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Arsenal: Class or No Class?

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A month or so back, a thread was made about the sad passing of Mick Bryenton who was a well known Gooner.

Crocit off of here and a few others made a memorial flag which has been taken to games since his tragic death. The words read RIP Mick Bryenton Gone but Not Forgotten with the old style cannon on it. So hardly going to be sold on eBay, if that is what the club are worried about.

I contacted the club to see if they could get the players to sign it and Crocit was going to give it to the kids who regularly attend games.

However, the club have got back to me and refused the request.

Is it me over reacting or does that just lack class in every way possible? I did mention that the club find it okay to sell the shirts at £300 a piece. Awaiting a response.

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Post by SPARKSY »

If it was the days of Adams, Merson, Bould etc they would've done it no questions asked as they were the same as us. "Normal" people living the dream.

Nowadays, sadly, the overpaid ponces who play for football are so far detached from everyday life that they really couldn't give two fucks about you or me, i'm afraid.

For example, even something so simple as signing a few autographs for the kids when getting back on the coach after a game (if you can actually get near enough to the coach) and they put there headphones on and look at the ground as if to say "i never heard or saw them".

You shouldn't be surprised

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Post by Chunky The Gooner »

SPARKSY wrote:If it was the days of Adams, Merson, Bould etc they would've done it no questions asked as they were the same as us. "Normal" people living the dream.

Nowadays, sadly, the overpaid ponces who play for football are so far detached from everyday life that they really couldn't give two fucks about you or me, i'm afraid.

For example, even something so simple as signing a few autographs for the kids when getting back on the coach after a game (if you can actually get near enough to the coach) and they put there headphones on and look at the ground as if to say "i never heard or saw them".

You shouldn't be surprised

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Post by Dan_85 »

You weren't giving them any money so it doesn't surprise me they weren't interested. Not a shred of class about The Arsenal these days...

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Post by enjibenji »

what a fucking disgrace :evil:

are you on twitter jay? if you want i can bring this up later with your man from the ast to see if he can sort something out for you ?

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Dan_85 wrote:You weren't giving them any money so it doesn't surprise me they weren't interested. Not a shred of class about The Arsenal these days...
What, you mean apart from the £millions they've raised over the years for charity?

Kingjayson's story is indeed sad, but the club must get countless of requests and they can't possibly please everyone. Maybe this was just one of those cases?

And when they do so so much good work, I think it's wrong to ignore it and only highlight the negative.

A bit of balance, perhaps...

In 2003, Arsenal Football Club strengthened its charitable giving by channeling its fundraising and awareness raising efforts into one nominated charity each season, known as the ‘Be a Gooner. Be a Giver.’ campaign.

Over the course of seven years, the Club partnered with charities including ChildLine, the David Rocastle Trust, the Willow Foundation, TreeHouse, Teenage Cancer Trust, Great Ormond Street Hospital Children’s Charity and Centrepoint, raising nearly £3million in the process.
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[quote="Dan_85"]You weren't giving them any money so it doesn't surprise me they weren't interested. Not a shred of class about The Arsenal these days...[/quote

This is right. And its why i dont feel guilty about picking my games and not going fuck holes like bolton on a tuesday night.

last few years i wouldnt miss it but now i cant be fucked , even with the big games.

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Post by Bring Back Pires »

Possibly a tad harsh to criticise the players in this instance, as most would surely be happy to sign. Seems more of an upper management decision to me.

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Bring Back Pires wrote:Possibly a tad harsh to criticise the players in this instance, as most would surely be happy to sign. Seems more of an upper management decision to me.
True but this just reaffirms the club has no class anymore

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Re: Arsenal: Class or No Class?

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kingjayson1 wrote:A month or so back, a thread was made about the sad passing of Mick Bryenton who was a well known Gooner.

Crocit off of here and a few others made a memorial flag which has been taken to games since his tragic death. The words read RIP Mick Bryenton Gone but Not Forgotten with the old style cannon on it. So hardly going to be sold on eBay, if that is what the club are worried about.

I contacted the club to see if they could get the players to sign it and Crocit was going to give it to the kids who regularly attend games.

However, the club have got back to me and refused the request.

Is it me over reacting or does that just lack class in every way possible? I did mention that the club find it okay to sell the shirts at £300 a piece. Awaiting a response.
Who did you contact mate?

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Post by goonersid »

There is a guy in our work in his late fifties who used to be a S***s fan, he is also a die hard Derry City fan and a steward at the games. He has two sons one a spud the other a gooner.
He told me two stories, one about when Arsenal played City in a friendly, and the other, when City played s***s.
Both games would have been late eighties, early nineties. I myself was living in England at the time.
The stories went as follows, s***s under Vennables, with names like Gascoigne in their squad arrived at the Brandywell under a heavy veil of security, with the players having all but no contact with local City or s***s fans, with City stewards not being allowed into or near the changing rooms. So any chance he was hoping for to get an autograph or two for his halfwit son :wink: went by the way.
Arsenal under GG and with a full strength squad arrived in a much more informal manner and to cut a long story short. The guy I work with had brought an Arsenal flag hoping to get a few autographs on it for his much wiser son :wink:
He knocked at the door of the Arsenal dressing room at full time, and it was answered by GG, he asked GG if he could get someone to sign the flag for him. GG turned and summoned TA6 to the door, and handed him the flag, and told him "make sure every player signs this, then make sure it is returned to this gentleman"
He never supported s***s again after these two events.
I fear were these scenarios to arise now it could be a very diffrerent outcome.

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Post by Babatunde »

Too busy suing innocent old Spanish ladies making wee hats, charging 6.5%, and an owner who treats fans like dirt off his filthy tache.
Oh and did I mention the overpaid manager who constantly rues "financial doping", whilst having no problem using Citeh as his personal bank withdrawal account, and consistently slamming refs and opposing teams when he's been made to look a mug?!

Oh and did I mention 6.5% and threats to take down flags that don't contravene health and safety?

Classless manager, classless owners.
That used to be the Spuds exclusive domain. Now it's ours.
Bottlers on the pitch, rubbish manager and plenty of deluded fans off it.

Dear Lord what has happened to my Arsenal?

:cry:

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Post by slevinlacey »

Times have changed. At my last job we had a department specifically dealing with these queries and basically if you wasn't a big customer you didn't have a chance even though there were far more deserving cases.

We aren't a club no more, probably when the Premier League started I have noticed the distance growing between fan and club.

The club, considering how much they make and the so called brand should be raising huge sums of money for charity. Players giving one days earning to charity and being praised for it is a disgrace considering most people will spend quite a lot of their salary following Arsenal over the course of a season.

Until a genuine Gooner is employed high up in the club, even if it is a marketing role there will not be a change.

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g88ner wrote:
Dan_85 wrote:You weren't giving them any money so it doesn't surprise me they weren't interested. Not a shred of class about The Arsenal these days...
What, you mean apart from the £millions they've raised over the years for charity?

Kingjayson's story is indeed sad, but the club must get countless of requests and they can't possibly please everyone. Maybe this was just one of those cases?

And when they do so so much good work, I think it's wrong to ignore it and only highlight the negative.

A bit of balance, perhaps...

In 2003, Arsenal Football Club strengthened its charitable giving by channeling its fundraising and awareness raising efforts into one nominated charity each season, known as the ‘Be a Gooner. Be a Giver.’ campaign.

Over the course of seven years, the Club partnered with charities including ChildLine, the David Rocastle Trust, the Willow Foundation, TreeHouse, Teenage Cancer Trust, Great Ormond Street Hospital Children’s Charity and Centrepoint, raising nearly £3million in the process.
Of course the club does excellent work for charity, but how about them helping out the every man for once instead of milking them for their cash & them telling them to do one when they ask for something in return? What about the guy who plows most of his wages into travelling to support his team or the grieving family of a loyal fan?

How long would it have taken to get the players to sign the flag? Ten minutes after training?

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Post by SouthCoastArsenal »

The fact of all of the above is simple.

The "CLUB" simply do not give a fuck. We, as fans are commodities. Replaceable. For every one of us, there are 10 *word censored* in the orient willing to swallow whatever & spend their disposable 'following' Arsenal.

That's it, end of.

If anybody thinks that the club care about 'individual fans', they are more deluded than Wenger

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