Kalou rejected Arsenal transfer in January 2014
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Augie - you missed something from Wengers 'essential' list -
Young
Preferably French/African
Utility Player (must be able to play in several positions, even if he's no better than average in any of them)
Salou is perfect then
Sums Wenger up if he buys him, yet another 'non-striker', another front man who will spend half the season on the wing and will score half a dozen goals. In fact, he is probably the ONLY type of player we really don't need at the moment.
Young
Preferably French/African
Utility Player (must be able to play in several positions, even if he's no better than average in any of them)
Salou is perfect then
Sums Wenger up if he buys him, yet another 'non-striker', another front man who will spend half the season on the wing and will score half a dozen goals. In fact, he is probably the ONLY type of player we really don't need at the moment.
Kalou
It's started again. Did anyone see SSN? Reporter asked Di Matteo about Arsenals apparent interest in Kalou - he was cagey and didn't really answer the question. Just said that Kalou was at the training camp for the ACN.
Please no.
Please no.
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KALOU: Arsenal's Deterioration
Over six months ago I believe, I started a thread entitled 'Kalou' on the OLG. On the thread, I claimed that we would be signing Kalou based on reports in France. Now this is not to say 'I am right' etc etc...because we all get stuff wrong.
However.
It really does seem as if this Kalou business is coming to a head and I feel that this transfer, once confirmed, will be the one that pushes me over the edge as far as Wenger's Arsenal is concerned. I want to talk about something here, and it is the disgusting culture of acceptance and mediocrity that has been allowed to fester at Arsenal, one that has been readily excused and accepted by many compliant fans.
The origins of this can be traced to the Ashley Cole transfer. Chelski offered Arsenal £25 million in cash for Cole. At the time, Arsenal were still a very big team that players wanted to join and Philip Lahm had just fallen out with Bayern. £25 million was a lot of money, and considering we had Clichy, a serious manager could have spent that cash rebuilding the defence. Instead, Arsene Wenger went for his Frenchie and took on Gallas, and £5 million. This was an outrageous trade and I thought Wenger would be pelted for it by Arsenal fans. It never happened though - still, at least Gallas was a quality PL defender to be fair.
The transfer that really confirmed what a shit direction we were headed in though, was Mikael Silvestre.
Just to be clear here for the deluded ones who do not understand: Man United, Chelski, and Citeh will never, ever, EVER sell their best players to a domestic rival. There is only one club that regularly does this, and that is Wenger FC.
Manure wanted rid of a scab on their wage bill. He was French, cheap and Wenger obliged.
In many countries and at many clubs, Wenger would have been given a torrent of abuse for this. The reason Manure gave us Silvestre so cheap, is because he was rubbish. Of course, the usual chorus of apologists were making excuses 'he is a winner with experience', 'squad player' bla bla.
We have been signing squad players for so long, we've forgotten about the first team!!!
Buoyed by Silvestre, Wenger continued this policy when he went out and signed Yossi Benayoun. Again. I know Benayoun is ok, he is not a bad player...but you need to ask yourself if Chelski (champions of Europe ) would EVER lend out a quality player to a rival? Are they mugs?
So anyhow, asides the comedy 'signings' of recalling a League 2 Sol Campbell, and a pension home Jens Lehmann....I come back to KALOU.
Seriously, according to French reports from very reputable sources, Kalou is going to be offered a contract of FOUR years on over 80,000 Euros a week AFTER TAX (because he is a free transfer). The most sickening thing here, is that if you talk to any Chelski fan, they would have gladly driven Kalou to Siberia themselves if just to rid the club of him. And yet, here is a guy that our manager is about to lumber on our already bloated wage bill.
I get royally pissed off when I continually hear people around here claiming 'we cannot compete' - just look at that wage bill. Instead of paying a joke like Kalou 80,000 Euros a week Net (Jesus!), that cash could go to the weekly wages of a top player. That means an M'Vila, a Javi Martinez or a Cavani.
Arsenal deserve better than this shite, we deserve to see the best and it is an insult that we should expect to put up with our former 'rivals' cast offs. It's incredibly unambitious and unacceptable.
The most sickening thing here though, is that it is yet ANOTHER player who will bugger off to ACN for yonks, then the apologists will claim 'oooh he is burned out'. As if you don't know these things when signing an African? I mean FFS it is highly conceivable that next season, as predicted, Arsena will regularly field a midfield flanked by one Ivorian in Gervinho, and another brainless donkey in Kalou. Chuck in Alex Song and that is the African Chuckle Brothers do North London!
I realise this deal has not yet happened but it is on the verge and it's sickening.
Think about how much cash the club has at its disposal (read the accounts). Think of losing RVP. Think of the cost of those season tickets. Think of our mammoth cash reserves. Think how much we have made in player sales these past3/4 windows...and then just look at the bollocks Wenger is lumbering us with. That will be another total deadweight to further drain our bloated wage bill for years to come. No resale value at all, another Denilson who will sit back and collect his wages.
Sorry but if/when this happens, it's just an effin DISGRACE. Kalou is not 'a good squad player' we've been collecting 'squad players' for 7 bloody years, which would explain why we've got less pots than Portsmouth in that period.
Citeh pinch Nasri and Clichy from us, Chelski take Cole, Manure bid for RVP and we errrrm....'steal' Silvestre and Kalou.
Why has Wenger been allowed to get bigger than this club?
However.
It really does seem as if this Kalou business is coming to a head and I feel that this transfer, once confirmed, will be the one that pushes me over the edge as far as Wenger's Arsenal is concerned. I want to talk about something here, and it is the disgusting culture of acceptance and mediocrity that has been allowed to fester at Arsenal, one that has been readily excused and accepted by many compliant fans.
The origins of this can be traced to the Ashley Cole transfer. Chelski offered Arsenal £25 million in cash for Cole. At the time, Arsenal were still a very big team that players wanted to join and Philip Lahm had just fallen out with Bayern. £25 million was a lot of money, and considering we had Clichy, a serious manager could have spent that cash rebuilding the defence. Instead, Arsene Wenger went for his Frenchie and took on Gallas, and £5 million. This was an outrageous trade and I thought Wenger would be pelted for it by Arsenal fans. It never happened though - still, at least Gallas was a quality PL defender to be fair.
The transfer that really confirmed what a shit direction we were headed in though, was Mikael Silvestre.
Just to be clear here for the deluded ones who do not understand: Man United, Chelski, and Citeh will never, ever, EVER sell their best players to a domestic rival. There is only one club that regularly does this, and that is Wenger FC.
Manure wanted rid of a scab on their wage bill. He was French, cheap and Wenger obliged.
In many countries and at many clubs, Wenger would have been given a torrent of abuse for this. The reason Manure gave us Silvestre so cheap, is because he was rubbish. Of course, the usual chorus of apologists were making excuses 'he is a winner with experience', 'squad player' bla bla.
We have been signing squad players for so long, we've forgotten about the first team!!!
Buoyed by Silvestre, Wenger continued this policy when he went out and signed Yossi Benayoun. Again. I know Benayoun is ok, he is not a bad player...but you need to ask yourself if Chelski (champions of Europe
) would EVER lend out a quality player to a rival? Are they mugs? So anyhow, asides the comedy 'signings' of recalling a League 2 Sol Campbell, and a pension home Jens Lehmann....I come back to KALOU.
Seriously, according to French reports from very reputable sources, Kalou is going to be offered a contract of FOUR years
on over 80,000 Euros a week AFTER TAX (because he is a free transfer). The most sickening thing here, is that if you talk to any Chelski fan, they would have gladly driven Kalou to Siberia themselves if just to rid the club of him. And yet, here is a guy that our manager is about to lumber on our already bloated wage bill.I get royally pissed off when I continually hear people around here claiming 'we cannot compete' - just look at that wage bill. Instead of paying a joke like Kalou 80,000 Euros a week Net (Jesus!), that cash could go to the weekly wages of a top player. That means an M'Vila, a Javi Martinez or a Cavani.
Arsenal deserve better than this shite, we deserve to see the best and it is an insult that we should expect to put up with our former 'rivals' cast offs. It's incredibly unambitious and unacceptable.
The most sickening thing here though, is that it is yet ANOTHER player who will bugger off to ACN for yonks, then the apologists will claim 'oooh he is burned out'. As if you don't know these things when signing an African? I mean FFS it is highly conceivable that next season, as predicted, Arsena will regularly field a midfield flanked by one Ivorian in Gervinho, and another brainless donkey in Kalou. Chuck in Alex Song and that is the African Chuckle Brothers do North London!
I realise this deal has not yet happened but it is on the verge and it's sickening.
Think about how much cash the club has at its disposal (read the accounts). Think of losing RVP. Think of the cost of those season tickets. Think of our mammoth cash reserves. Think how much we have made in player sales these past3/4 windows...and then just look at the bollocks Wenger is lumbering us with. That will be another total deadweight to further drain our bloated wage bill for years to come. No resale value at all, another Denilson who will sit back and collect his wages.
Sorry but if/when this happens, it's just an effin DISGRACE. Kalou is not 'a good squad player' we've been collecting 'squad players' for 7 bloody years, which would explain why we've got less pots than Portsmouth in that period.
Citeh pinch Nasri and Clichy from us, Chelski take Cole, Manure bid for RVP and we errrrm....'steal' Silvestre and Kalou.
Why has Wenger been allowed to get bigger than this club?
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IW8Goalmachine
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Re: KALOU: Arsenal's Deterioration
Sadly this is the modern day Arsenal and continue that way until wenger, board and owner gone which wont be for a few years yet
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Re: KALOU: Arsenal's Deterioration
Kalou is a plug and I will be right there with you as disgusted if we sign him.
The fact that three teams are competing for Hazard - supposedly a player we might have a had a chance with a year or two ago - and we're rumored to be chasing Kalou... what can you say to that? You just have to throw your hands up and say "Arsenal are aspiring to be the richest 4th place club in England".
The fact that three teams are competing for Hazard - supposedly a player we might have a had a chance with a year or two ago - and we're rumored to be chasing Kalou... what can you say to that? You just have to throw your hands up and say "Arsenal are aspiring to be the richest 4th place club in England".
Re: KALOU: Arsenal's Deterioration
Good post, Baba.
Although I'm still hoping this Kalou rumour is bollocks... even though deep down, I think it smacks of a Wenger signing
Although I'm still hoping this Kalou rumour is bollocks... even though deep down, I think it smacks of a Wenger signing
Re: KALOU: Arsenal's Deterioration
It's true. I don't understand why supporters don't get on Wengers back about this. Like you say if Silvestre or Benayoun were that good, would our rivals really let them come to us?
Maybe they are decent, but they no longer see us as a threat.
Maybe they are decent, but they no longer see us as a threat.
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Re: KALOU: Arsenal's Deterioration
Typical. Wenger. Signing.
I'm hopeful it won't happen though as that would mean Wenger has signed a player, and we all know we will only be selling.
I'm hopeful it won't happen though as that would mean Wenger has signed a player, and we all know we will only be selling.
Re: KALOU: Arsenal's Deterioration
If he signs Kalou....all hell will finally break loose. So bring it on Turnip. 
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Re: KALOU: Arsenal's Deterioration
I have no problem with signing Kalou, IF we sign good players as well.
He is an ok squad player.
I would question his wages though, I do not think him worth 80,000 Euros a week.
As for the examples of us signing poor squad players from rivals, they are not comparable as individuals.
Silvestre was poor, very poor. So too Squillachi.
But Benayoun was a decent signing, a one year loan that worked out well.
I have my own theory on what our recent spending patterns represent.
1.) New stadium meant belt tightening.
2.) New stadium meant Wenger pursued a policy weighted heavily towards younger players.
3.) Manager's ego means he has kept faith with failing younger players for longer than others might have done.
3.) Property crash meant less money came in from property sales than was expected.
4.) Recession has caused a cautious board to suggest retaining as much of the treasure chest as possible, as a safety net against falling ticket sales and possible default on stadium bonds.
5.) Vast wealth of Chelsea and Man City, and willingness of their owners to operate at a loss at times, has pushed transfer fees of many top players too high for our resources.
He is an ok squad player.
I would question his wages though, I do not think him worth 80,000 Euros a week.
As for the examples of us signing poor squad players from rivals, they are not comparable as individuals.
Silvestre was poor, very poor. So too Squillachi.
But Benayoun was a decent signing, a one year loan that worked out well.
I have my own theory on what our recent spending patterns represent.
1.) New stadium meant belt tightening.
2.) New stadium meant Wenger pursued a policy weighted heavily towards younger players.
3.) Manager's ego means he has kept faith with failing younger players for longer than others might have done.
3.) Property crash meant less money came in from property sales than was expected.
4.) Recession has caused a cautious board to suggest retaining as much of the treasure chest as possible, as a safety net against falling ticket sales and possible default on stadium bonds.
5.) Vast wealth of Chelsea and Man City, and willingness of their owners to operate at a loss at times, has pushed transfer fees of many top players too high for our resources.
