"Please,please,please,(Walcott),just fucking fuck off

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Cockerill's chin wrote:Walcott was poor again today, apart from a good finish. I don't buy into this footballing brain. A brain is a brain, why listen to a scum, geordie sausage packer who detests Walcott?

He started the season quite well with important goals against Udinese and some good assists for RVP. I thought he was going to take a step forward this year but he is reverting to his uninfluential self.

It's harsh to say he hasn't excelled for 6 years, he is only 22 and there aren't many players who can influence a game aged 16-22. Lots of players were poor today, especially Ramsey. Having said that, to justify the hype that surrounded him, Walcott needs to take his game up a level and maintain it (if he has another level in his locker).

Those who say he is not an Arsenal quality player have time-warped glasses. We aren't quality anymore. Arsenal are at his level. Personally, I'd start the clearout with Arshavin, Chamakh, Squillaci, Djourou and Diaby before I get to Theo.
As ever, bang on the money CC. Top post.

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SWLGooner wrote:
Cockerill's chin wrote:Walcott was poor again today, apart from a good finish. I don't buy into this footballing brain. A brain is a brain, why listen to a scum, geordie sausage packer who detests Walcott?

He started the season quite well with important goals against Udinese and some good assists for RVP. I thought he was going to take a step forward this year but he is reverting to his uninfluential self.

It's harsh to say he hasn't excelled for 6 years, he is only 22 and there aren't many players who can influence a game aged 16-22. Lots of players were poor today, especially Ramsey. Having said that, to justify the hype that surrounded him, Walcott needs to take his game up a level and maintain it (if he has another level in his locker).

Those who say he is not an Arsenal quality player have time-warped glasses. We aren't quality anymore. Arsenal are at his level. Personally, I'd start the clearout with Arshavin, Chamakh, Squillaci, Djourou and Diaby before I get to Theo.
As ever, bang on the money CC. Top post.
Yes, but the thing is we have a better player than all 3 of our other wide players sitting on the bench. If we arent going to play Walcott as a center forward hanging on the defensive line then he shouldn't be playing at all. You don't see Fergie throwing Hernandez out on the right wing like stubborn old 4-5-1 Wenger.

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[quote="Demun210"]I'll support every Arsenal player that takes to the field in any game, but at the same time I've seen more than enough football to know a class player from an average one, and unfortunately Walcott just isn't a "top player". He's blessed with pace, and there are times that will be a massive advantage for him, but you can't have a player in your team that you rely on for that one through ball, or one unexpected break away. You need to have skill and composure on the ball, and Walcott has so little of that. If you watch him, the amount of times you'll see him scramble after a ball he's miscontrolled or not anticipated properly, he's just not good enough on the ball to be effective regularly. There's always going to be pacey wingers (although I'm sure Walcott will claim he's better through the middle), but the best ones are those who are comfortable on the ball and can make the most of the positions their pace enables them to get in.

Exactly.

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one trick pony?? nah just plain pony...transfer list tomorrow!!!! any takers???? i don't think so...he's proved he's shit!!! swansea for one would'nt bother, sinclair and dyer are miles better

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Percy Dalton wrote:I am now running out of excuses for Walnut.

However Arshavin should never wear the shirt again.

:roll:


:shock: :shock: :shock:
Percy has turned..........next thing steve o will be telling us all that diaby is shit :wink: :lol:

Seriously though, if the pfa let this *word censored* (feo), into their union then it must class as false advertisment cos there is no way he is a footballer :roll: :oops:
I heard capello was on the phone to pearce coming out of the ground telling him that feo would be available for the olympics cos there is no way he is bringing the useless *word censored* to the euro finals :lol: :lol: :lol:

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augie wrote:
Percy Dalton wrote:I am now running out of excuses for Walnut.

However Arshavin should never wear the shirt again.

:roll:


:shock: :shock: :shock:
Percy has turned..........next thing steve o will be telling us all that diaby is shit :wink: :lol:

Seriously though, if the pfa let this c**t (feo), into their union then it must class as false advertisment cos there is no way he is a footballer :roll: :oops:
I heard capello was on the phone to pearce coming out of the ground telling him that feo would be available for the olympics cos there is no way he is bringing the useless c**t to the euro finals :lol: :lol: :lol:

I know..............it has been a while coming though.

As someone else as said, I would show the door to several others before Theo but he is becoming more and more infuriating.

The finish shows he has class but it is his inability to make a sustained impact on a game that miffs me. I don't expect it every game but sometimes, just sometimes, his pace and directness should have a greater influence.

If someone offered £15 million for him now it would be hard to turn down.

:roll:

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theo is a flop always has been, i used to cherr for him to come on when sitting in the blue quad...the old bloke in front of me said he is well overrated, but still i cheered, but he should NEVER get a game at arsenal again, he is an utter failure start to finnish and he is an athlete not a footballer hasnt got a first touch - free transfer him out...now

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Cockerill's chin wrote:Walcott was poor again today, apart from a good finish. I don't buy into this footballing brain. A brain is a brain, why listen to a scum, geordie sausage packer who detests Walcott?

He started the season quite well with important goals against Udinese and some good assists for RVP. I thought he was going to take a step forward this year but he is reverting to his uninfluential self.

It's harsh to say he hasn't excelled for 6 years, he is only 22 and there aren't many players who can influence a game aged 16-22. Lots of players were poor today, especially Ramsey. Having said that, to justify the hype that surrounded him, Walcott needs to take his game up a level and maintain it (if he has another level in his locker).

Those who say he is not an Arsenal quality player have time-warped glasses. We aren't quality anymore. Arsenal are at his level. Personally, I'd start the clearout with Arshavin, Chamakh, Squillaci, Djourou and Diaby before I get to Theo.
Excellent post. I think people are a bit short sighted with Theo. Don't get me wrong, he's frustrating as fuck but he's one of the few players in that midfield who can produce a goal or an assist worthy of mention. Had it not been for shit finishing from the likes of Gervinho he would have even more.

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walcott scores a 1 on 1 today!!
so what...he probably closed his eyes and hoped he would 'nt look like a mug...once in a long while a cross/pass comes off, is that how low the bar is set for theo???...99% of the time its all wrong....bumbling the ball out of play by having no technique.... charging into defenders to try and con a foul coz he's clueless how to dribble past them...putting pressure on other players with dumb passing then melting away out of trouble...the list is endless...65 k doesn't get you much with theo and i hear he want more!!!!
he's 22 not 10...he won't get better, just slower....he's just not good at this football lark

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Wenger is playing this loser way too much, and starving Ox and Coquelin as well, which is killing the competition. Its no wonder that he's so shit and casual, but very arrogant as well. i lost count the amount of times he's taken the ball and literally ran off the pitch for a goal kick. he has absolutely no skill to match his speed. cant wait to see him and Ramsay leave...as well as Arshavin, Diaby, Miqel, Rosick, Squillaci....:yawn: :yawn: :yawn:

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Cockerill's chin wrote:Walcott was poor again today, apart from a good finish. I don't buy into this footballing brain. A brain is a brain, why listen to a scum, geordie sausage packer who detests Walcott?

He started the season quite well with important goals against Udinese and some good assists for RVP. I thought he was going to take a step forward this year but he is reverting to his uninfluential self.

It's harsh to say he hasn't excelled for 6 years, he is only 22 and there aren't many players who can influence a game aged 16-22. Lots of players were poor today, especially Ramsey. Having said that, to justify the hype that surrounded him, Walcott needs to take his game up a level and maintain it (if he has another level in his locker).

Those who say he is not an Arsenal quality player have time-warped glasses. We aren't quality anymore. Arsenal are at his level. Personally, I'd start the clearout with Arshavin, Chamakh, Squillaci, Djourou and Diaby before I get to Theo.
Agree.

Add Eastmond to that list.

Theo is a Premiership level player, but being played in not his best position, in a team that is focused on Van Persie to the fulfillment of Van Persie but the detriment of the rest of the team.

I would keep Theo for next season, despite the flak I will take on here for saying that.

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Walcott would be good in a system at somewhere like Newcastle, playing with Ba/Best/Ameobi and in counter attack. We always concede to players like that.

But here when he needs to use skill and think to break teams down he is hopeless. He cant even run at players, he kicks it and 1/10 times he runs around the player to get it.

I've got a feeling though Feo is getting fed up and he wont be here any longer than next season, and they are enough clubs who would take him.

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see I don't get the stick he always gets. fair enough, he hasn't got great ball control, dribbling ability or confidence. thats a given. now why is that difficult for some people here to get? he has been here for six years and yet people still act surprised. I have said numerous times here- he ain't a fucking wide player just cuz hes's pacey. the sooner le myopic discovers that the better.
did you see his finish today? as much as he frustrates me sometimes and as much I hold wenger account of this, the most frustating arsenal team thats ever existed- he is a decent striker. and while he gets so much blame, why doesn't mertesacker get any for his incompetant defending, or chesney for his poor positoning?

fact is, to some on here walcott would be an AFC posterboy had he have a twitter account and post some inane shit such as "lol vermaelen looks like a paedo". that apparently shows personality, more than actually displaying some through acting mature and humble, or showing people through interviews. It takes a profile on an online social networ and the sense of humour of a toilet humour obsessed mock the week fan.

and yes, if he gets paid his 85k a week I should get paid the same for watching it

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QuartzGooner wrote:
Cockerill's chin wrote:Walcott was poor again today, apart from a good finish. I don't buy into this footballing brain. A brain is a brain, why listen to a scum, geordie sausage packer who detests Walcott?

He started the season quite well with important goals against Udinese and some good assists for RVP. I thought he was going to take a step forward this year but he is reverting to his uninfluential self.

It's harsh to say he hasn't excelled for 6 years, he is only 22 and there aren't many players who can influence a game aged 16-22. Lots of players were poor today, especially Ramsey. Having said that, to justify the hype that surrounded him, Walcott needs to take his game up a level and maintain it (if he has another level in his locker).

Those who say he is not an Arsenal quality player have time-warped glasses. We aren't quality anymore. Arsenal are at his level. Personally, I'd start the clearout with Arshavin, Chamakh, Squillaci, Djourou and Diaby before I get to Theo.
Agree.

Add Eastmond to that list.

Theo is a Premiership level player, but being played in not his best position, in a team that is focused on Van Persie to the fulfillment of Van Persie but the detriment of the rest of the team.

I would keep Theo for next season, despite the flak I will take on here for saying that.
That, is just not true.

Van Persie, before Wenger switched it, was never a player who played the centre role of a front three on his own. Even for Holland.

He played wide for them and one of a two for us.

Wenger didn't introduce this 4-3-3 bollocks to satisfy Van Persie. It was done, hilariously, to solidify our midfield.

He is just such a good player that you can put him anywhere on the pitch and good things will happen.

Make no mistake, the detriment of this team is the complete averageness of it's players and piss poor tactical instructions from its management.

Not anything Van Persie has done or will continue to do.

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Number 5 wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
Cockerill's chin wrote:Walcott was poor again today, apart from a good finish. I don't buy into this footballing brain. A brain is a brain, why listen to a scum, geordie sausage packer who detests Walcott?

He started the season quite well with important goals against Udinese and some good assists for RVP. I thought he was going to take a step forward this year but he is reverting to his uninfluential self.

It's harsh to say he hasn't excelled for 6 years, he is only 22 and there aren't many players who can influence a game aged 16-22. Lots of players were poor today, especially Ramsey. Having said that, to justify the hype that surrounded him, Walcott needs to take his game up a level and maintain it (if he has another level in his locker).

Those who say he is not an Arsenal quality player have time-warped glasses. We aren't quality anymore. Arsenal are at his level. Personally, I'd start the clearout with Arshavin, Chamakh, Squillaci, Djourou and Diaby before I get to Theo.
Agree.

Add Eastmond to that list.

Theo is a Premiership level player, but being played in not his best position, in a team that is focused on Van Persie to the fulfillment of Van Persie but the detriment of the rest of the team.

I would keep Theo for next season, despite the flak I will take on here for saying that.
That, is just not true.

Van Persie, before Wenger switched it, was never a player who played the centre role of a front three on his own. Even for Holland.

He played wide for them and one of a two for us.

Wenger didn't introduce this 4-3-3 bollocks to satisfy Van Persie. It was done, hilariously, to solidify our midfield.

He is just such a good player that you can put him anywhere on the pitch and good things will happen.

Make no mistake, the detriment of this team is the complete averageness of it's players and piss poor tactical instructions from its management.

Not anything Van Persie has done or will continue to do.
I think you took my point in a way that I did not intend.

I did not mean that the team was poor because of what Van Persie does, just that a few other players in the team seem not to be in their best positions.

The current set up suits Van Persie to a tee, as he is banging in the goals and is better as a central front man than as a wide player, in my opinion.

But how many others are really shining?

With the current players, I favour a 4-4-2 over what what play now.
Sit Arteta and Song in the middle.
With The Ox and Gervinho wide.
Up front play Theo/Ramsey and RvP.

And I favour splashing a load of cash on new players over any tactical change.

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