Finally some media criticism of AW...

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:12 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 90620.html

IrishGunner · Post by **IrishGunner** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:03 am

Can't argue with a word of that article. Was watching PL years the other day and AW said 2nd place wasnt good enough, the man has become a shadow of his former self and after gambling with youth and failing, his introduction of experience bar arteta has been awful

The transfer market has changed too much for him to find a decent player for pennies. He is struggling in the current state of football with mid table teams having better players and his fear of spending big on players that can keep ahead of them

The guy can't win and we can only hope he realises this and moves on before his legacy is tarnished even further. I'm scared about our future atm and shudder at what state the club will be in 2-3 years

Man I've depressed myself!

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:21 am

The article reflects the sentiments of what many on this Forum have thought since the summer of 2009.

northbankbren · Post by **northbankbren** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:15 am

I think Lawton is a wanker....get the ipaper in the morning....and he is so out of touch it is unbelievable.

BUT....I cant help agree with this article.

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:34 am

Bren I agree Lawton is a cock. But as you say that article is bang on the money.

richpye · Post by **richpye** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:22 am

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... enger.html

The criticism continues.
For those who want him out, now is the time to start launching the campaigns

Northbank88 · Post by **Northbank88** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:25 am

Not sure if its a repost, dont come on here often. But here's an Tony Adams interview which says what we all suspect.

http://greatwen.com/2011/08/23/tony-ada ... ne-wenger/

'Coaching and motivation'

Stan_Kronke · Post by **Stan_Kronke** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:29 am

Northbank88 wrote:Not sure if its a repost, dont come on here often. But here's an Tony Adams interview which says what we all suspect.

http://greatwen.com/2011/08/23/tony-ada ... ne-wenger/

'Coaching and motivation'

Tony Adams, who is a legend, but coaching wise should not be let anywhere near Arsenal.

Red Member · Post by **Red Member** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:34 am

[b]Stan_Kronke[/b] wrote:
Northbank88 wrote:Not sure if its a repost, dont come on here often. But here's an Tony Adams interview which says what we all suspect.

http://greatwen.com/2011/08/23/tony-ada ... ne-wenger/

'Coaching and motivation'
Tony Adams, who is a legend, but coaching wise should not be let anywhere near Arsenal.

can you tell me why you have called yourself Stan Kronke on this forum?

Stan_Kronke · Post by **Stan_Kronke** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:40 am

Red Member wrote:
[b]Stan_Kronke[/b] wrote:
Northbank88 wrote:Not sure if its a repost, dont come on here often. But here's an Tony Adams interview which says what we all suspect.

http://greatwen.com/2011/08/23/tony-ada ... ne-wenger/

'Coaching and motivation'
Tony Adams, who is a legend, but coaching wise should not be let anywhere near Arsenal.
can you tell me why you have called yourself Stan Kronke on this forum?

Why have you called yourself Red Member?

Red Member · Post by **Red Member** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:47 am

Because I am a red member at Arsenal

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:57 am

Yeah but why have you misspelled Kroenke?? :s

Bradywasking · Post by **Bradywasking** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:09 am

IrishGunner wrote:Can't argue with a word of that article. Was watching PL years the other day and AW said 2nd place wasnt good enough, the man has become a shadow of his former self and after gambling with youth and failing, his introduction of experience bar arteta has been awful

The transfer market has changed too much for him to find a decent player for pennies. He is struggling in the current state of football with mid table teams having better players and his fear of spending big on players that can keep ahead of them

The guy can't win and we can only hope he realises this and moves on before his legacy is tarnished even further. I'm scared about our future atm and shudder at what state the club will be in 2-3 years

Man I've depressed myself!

Agree with what you say and more...jokes and slurs aside I think what Wenger is doing to Arsenal is awful, but also i believe what Wenger is doing to himself is worse. Someone has to tell him , if he can't see it himself.
After the Leeds game I was as euphoric about Henry's return as anyone, Sunday deflated that feeling and I felt I was watching the greatest symptom of Wenger's demise on my TV. The failure to see reality. This season is beyond saving, the Milan game at the Grove may be the last home Champions League game at home for a while. The season is beyond saving and the media are now realising that Wenger is beyond saving. Of course Arsenal as a football club are not beyond saving, but only Wenger or the board can do that. The board won't so it's down to you Arsene..Please go now.

Red Member · Post by **Red Member** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:23 am

I think he will walk if we lose to United and Spurs.

goonersid · Post by **goonersid** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:34 am

The article is pointing out nothing that hasn't been said by numerous pundits and many others besides.
Unlike Fergie who has completed whatever metamorphosis required to adapt to both the changing transfer market and the evolving styles of football played in the plge, Wenger has simply grown older and more resistant to change.
They still might even pip a nervy Citeh to the title this time round, despite on paper being a hugely inferior team, just like they seemed to do to Wenger everytime we were going for back to back titles.
The simple fact is Wenger is finished, and there will be no realisation on his part as to what needs to be done.