TIME TO BE HEARD!

Red Member · Post by **Red Member** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:05 pm

I don't want to offend any season ticket holders but surely it is obvious that nothing will change whilst everyone gives money to Kroenke- who refuses to spend any money on the team

I apologise for any offence to season ticket holders who are the best supporters this club has

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:06 pm

Red Member wrote:I don't want to offend any season ticket holders but surely it is obvious that nothing will change whilst everyone gives money to Kroenke- who refuses to spend any money on the team

I apologise for any offence to season ticket holders who are the best supporters this club has

Even your apologies come across as a wind up

admvideogames · Post by **admvideogames** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:17 pm

Red Member wrote:defeated as I thought

but that defensive shambles for the Utd winner wasn't Wenger's fault

I thought he was quite positive putting on Yennaris at half time

Lol.

I know I shouldn't fall for it and I was giving the guy a chance, but seriously.....

WTF!???????????

Red Member · Post by **Red Member** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:20 pm

The response from mike hutch has convinced me nothing will change

skipper · Post by **skipper** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:27 pm

No one is immune to open revolt, not even Wenger and that should be way forward, not mass exodus from Grove. Only when those who are forking out thousands of pounds on AFC make their frustrated voices heard AT THE GROUND will we see the REAL change.

Which brings us to problem of thousands of those ata the Grove who still belive in Wenger, even though their numbers must have gone down in past few weeks.

Something tells me SCUM game might be the one when it all pours out.

Red Member · Post by **Red Member** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:31 pm

I said all last week on here that if we lose to Utd and spurs then Wenger will walk

The fans will ultimately force him out

mikehutch86 · Post by **mikehutch86** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:40 pm

Red Member wrote:The response from mike hutch has convinced me nothing will change

My response is one of an angry and genuinely gutted Arsenal fan as to the state of our club under Wenger at the moment, I want Kroenke and Wenger out there time has come but to give my season ticket up in protest when some other tom dick or Harry will take my seat in a heartbeat I don't see as an option

topcat · Post by **topcat** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:45 pm

was RVP shaking his head at the stupid sub decision or the reaction of the fans though? i wasn't sure myself....

Steviegooner · Post by **Steviegooner** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:18 pm

I am a bond holder and gave up my 2 front row block s upper tier tickets end of last season, at 1850 each I decided to boycott then as i will not spend that and the petrol parking food drinks Etc on the way this club is being run. I love arsenal as much as my kids but cannot accept the current board and manager.

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:20 pm

There's no point being heard when the next game against Villa produces another scraped home win and chants of "There's Only One Arsene Wenger"

Just stick the boot in hard on Kroenke, and stop going to games and feeding his model. When he sells the club on at a premium in 3 years I'm sure he'll thank everyone for lining his pockets during that time

rodders999 · Post by **rodders999** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:21 pm

Red Member wrote:defeated as I thought

but that defensive shambles for the Utd winner wasn't Wenger's fault

I thought he was quite positive putting on Yennaris at half time

Top yourself you fucking spurs *word censored*.

Revgoon89 · Post by **Revgoon89** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:52 pm

rodders999 wrote:
Red Member wrote:defeated as I thought

but that defensive shambles for the Utd winner wasn't Wenger's fault

I thought he was quite positive putting on Yennaris at half time
Top yourself you fucking spurs c**t.

The only thing I can agree with in Red Members post is in regards to Yennaris. He performed a LOT better than that tw*t Djourou and eliminated that threat down the right when he was on. Fair play to the lad for trying hard considering he has been forced into the first team like this.

However, everythng else was Wengers fault, he made a stupid mistake bringing on the lazy Russian and look what happened. You can't blame injuries or biased Ref's for something like that.

Post by **I Hate Hleb** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:12 pm

From an interview with BBC radio...

Wenger was also targeted by fans after taking off Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and introducing Andrey Arshavin late on.

"I've been a manager for 30 years and have made 50,000 substitutions. I don't have to justify every one," he said.

Oxlade-Chamberlain was one of the brighter elements of Arsenal's performance at the Emirates.

The 18-year-old, making his first Premier League start, helped to create Robin van Persie's equaliser during a period when Arsenal had begun to dominate United.

"I can understand that the fans are upset about the substitution, especially when it doesn't work, but he had started to fatigue," Wenger said of his decision to substitute the former Southampton winger.

"He was sick in the week. Arshavin is captain of the Russia national team. You have an 18-year-old kid making his first Premier League start and a player who's captain of his country and they are querying the substitution?"

I honestly don't remember any previous Arsenal manager in over 40 years of watching the club that has disrespected so often or has shown more contempt for the opinions of fans than Wenger over the past few years.

T

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:31 pm

I Understand people making their own protest and not renewing but for everyone that makes a self sacrifice and takes a stand there always another fan (moron) to take that place.

Managers and players come and go but I will always support the Arsenal. So I will be renewing.

Where I can see an argument is a public display. Be it cards, banners or a march. I know it won't hurt them financially but a non-attendance would it home.

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:17 am

There are many apathetic fans.

I put together a long and detailed plan for media attention (without spending money) when I was involved with afcnotplc, but ultimately it takes time and dedication for people to act on it.

But if people have the time to spend on Facebook and Twitter and Youtube, now is the time to do it.

In turn there are those who mock using the internet to promote things, but the media do pay attention to online "chatter" and it has it's place alongside more traditional banners and marches and protests.