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1989 wrote:
Gunnersaurus wrote:I have given up caring now, saw this coming, writting the season off then I won't get pissed off anymore.

Feels good.
I'm on the same boat mate. I've given up.
Best way to be, there's no point hoping for the best because if the players don't let us down then the manager certainly will, these last 3 games have been a joke, two we should be winning, the last we would have had it not been for that nitwit, 9 cheap points we desperately needed.

Gave him the benefit of the doubt over Cesc and Nasri, Jan has shown what a *word censored* he really is after having no full backs with him even saying that 'there is no point losing points because of having no full backs' yet he was blatantly holding out for full backs returning.

The whole season has been a mess, what's worse is Spurs will finish above us for the first time in years, accept it now and get used to the stick, don't let that nitwit mess up your existence.

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Jamie Sanderson of Young Guns blog has reported Wenger as saying that even with good news on his scan, he's out for AT LEAST SIX WEEKS

STILL we wont get anyone before the months out

FURIOUS :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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Heres the first hint of what many have suggested (I know its the Mail but still)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... njury.html

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Meanwhile, remind yourself of the original diagnosis from after the NYRB game;

http://www.arsenal.com/match-menu/34033 ... tab=report
there was one scare when Jack Wilshere left the field to nurse a minor ankle injury.
5 months & 28 days after that "minor" injury we're still no closer to know when he'll play again :lol: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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I seem to remembe wenger saying it's a similar injuy to tv5, and he missed most of last season bar 2-3 games. Why did anyone on here actually believe that jack would be back in february?

Just hope the lad recovers to resume his career. No point jeopardising his career for the sake of a season that's been a written off.

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Pretty sure this is some stage managed bullshit from Arsenal. Wenger's excuse now will be he expected JW back and was shocked by the "unforeseen" setback. Utter bollocks. I hate our club right now. *word censored* of the highest order in charge on all fronts.

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Dan_85 wrote:Meanwhile, remind yourself of the original diagnosis from after the NYRB game;

http://www.arsenal.com/match-menu/34033 ... tab=report
there was one scare when Jack Wilshere left the field to nurse a minor ankle injury.
5 months & 28 days after that "minor" injury we're still no closer to know when he'll play again :lol: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Surely you realise that comments made shortly after the game aren't exact and that the true damage of the injury can only be assessed the next day with scans and so on? How many times have we seen football players end up in what appears to be very serious injuries but then to be ok on the scans the next day? Or vice versa with the team thinking that it's not a serious injury only for complications to arise when the injury is more accurately diagnosed.

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admvideogames wrote:Pretty sure this is some stage managed bullshit from Arsenal. Wenger's excuse now will be he expected JW back and was shocked by the "unforeseen" setback. Utter bollocks. I hate our club right now. c**ts of the highest order in charge on all fronts.


you can't blame Wenger for this, he's no doctor or specialist - he is just going on the advice he is being given

when Wilshire walked off, our physio must of told him it wasl just a slight damage to his ankle, it wasn't till he was asses by doctors that they realised he need and op, and now he has had a set back

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Rosie_titters wrote:
admvideogames wrote:Pretty sure this is some stage managed bullshit from Arsenal. Wenger's excuse now will be he expected JW back and was shocked by the "unforeseen" setback. Utter bollocks. I hate our club right now. c**ts of the highest order in charge on all fronts.


you can't blame Wenger for this, he's no doctor or specialist - he is just going on the advice he is being given

when Wilshire walked off, our physio must of told him it wasl just a slight damage to his ankle, it wasn't till he was asses by doctors that they realised he need and op, and now he has had a set back
When will you learn?
You can't blame AW for the injury. But like Vermaelen, you can blame AW for knowing full well the player would be out longer teen and LYING AGAIN to the fans about his impending return, so he could avoid spending money.

Isn't the timing hilarious and so see-through? Announcement right as the transfer window is closing so, like TV5, AW has a ready made excuse.

This is the second CLEARLY stage managed bullshit Wenger has pulled in a week, after the comical "AW to Real" leak. What a fucking disgusting sham my club has become and its down to one man. Make his life hell at the concrete bowl every game until he has enough and walks.

Sick of idiots blindly blaming the board. Wenger has been happily lying for years as he picks up his £6.5 million.

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Isn't it Wenger who always says that our medical team are the best around, lets look at the evidence, Rosicky, TV5, RVP, Diaby (who cares) and now Wilshere, misdiagnosis, incorrect treatment (RVP being sent to a horse whisperer) incorrect dates given for comebacks, couple this with scouting network, again, this is supposed to be the best around but comes up with nish, players found often end up being loaned out and then eventually sold.

Hasn't Wenger also said that Wilshere maybe fit for the Euro's, who gives a flying fuck about this, we the fans pay Wilshere's wages and he shouldn't be brought back for a couple of games at the end of the season when we're out of everything just to be fit for this cowpat of competition. The whole scene at our club is rotten from top to bottom and should be ripped up and started again.

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franksav63 wrote:Isn't it Wenger who always says that our medical team are the best around, lets look at the evidence, Rosicky, TV5, RVP, Diaby (who cares) and now Wilshere, misdiagnosis, incorrect treatment (RVP being sent to a horse whisperer) incorrect dates given for comebacks, couple this with scouting network, again, this is supposed to be the best around but comes up with nish, players found often end up being loaned out and then eventually sold.

Hasn't Wenger also said that Wilshere maybe fit for the Euro's, who gives a flying fuck about this, we the fans pay Wilshere's wages and he shouldn't be brought back for a couple of games at the end of the season when we're out of everything just to be fit for this cowpat of competition. The whole scene at our club is rotten from top to bottom and should be ripped up and started again.
"Nah frank its not Wengers fault. He didn't appoint them. Hes the best man for the job."

"Its all the boards fault, or the media, or Man Shitty and Chelski, or the referees, or special circumstances or the pitch, or the weather or the Anglo-Irish agreement, or the Euro, or those greedy bankers or or or anybody except our great leader" :roll:

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armchair supporter wrote:
franksav63 wrote:Isn't it Wenger who always says that our medical team are the best around, lets look at the evidence, Rosicky, TV5, RVP, Diaby (who cares) and now Wilshere, misdiagnosis, incorrect treatment (RVP being sent to a horse whisperer) incorrect dates given for comebacks, couple this with scouting network, again, this is supposed to be the best around but comes up with nish, players found often end up being loaned out and then eventually sold.

Hasn't Wenger also said that Wilshere maybe fit for the Euro's, who gives a flying fuck about this, we the fans pay Wilshere's wages and he shouldn't be brought back for a couple of games at the end of the season when we're out of everything just to be fit for this cowpat of competition. The whole scene at our club is rotten from top to bottom and should be ripped up and started again.
"Nah frank its not Wengers fault. He didn't appoint them. Hes the best man for the job."

"Its all the boards fault, or the media, or Man Shitty and Chelski, or the referees, or special circumstances or the pitch, or the weather or the Anglo-Irish agreement, or the Euro, or those greedy bankers or or or anybody except our great leader" :roll:

Here dont start blaming the Irish for all this :wink: :lol:

On a serious note I do feel that wenger cannot be blamed for the continued diabolical performance of our medical staff but he is absolutely 100% to blame for putting out the bullshit predictions about players returning from injuries :x I dont believe for one second that it is a coincidence that he always predicts a player to return only to find out after the transfer window shuts or too late in the transfer window to buy anybody that said player wont actually be back after all :roll:
I also would have thought that any manager worth his salt would be demanding heads roll for a situation that see's their players frequently being injured and misdiagnosed

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augie wrote:
armchair supporter wrote:
franksav63 wrote:Isn't it Wenger who always says that our medical team are the best around, lets look at the evidence, Rosicky, TV5, RVP, Diaby (who cares) and now Wilshere, misdiagnosis, incorrect treatment (RVP being sent to a horse whisperer) incorrect dates given for comebacks, couple this with scouting network, again, this is supposed to be the best around but comes up with nish, players found often end up being loaned out and then eventually sold.

Hasn't Wenger also said that Wilshere maybe fit for the Euro's, who gives a flying fuck about this, we the fans pay Wilshere's wages and he shouldn't be brought back for a couple of games at the end of the season when we're out of everything just to be fit for this cowpat of competition. The whole scene at our club is rotten from top to bottom and should be ripped up and started again.
"Nah frank its not Wengers fault. He didn't appoint them. Hes the best man for the job."

"Its all the boards fault, or the media, or Man Shitty and Chelski, or the referees, or special circumstances or the pitch, or the weather or the Anglo-Irish agreement, or the Euro, or those greedy bankers or or or anybody except our great leader" :roll:

Here dont start blaming the Irish for all this :wink: :lol:

On a serious note I do feel that wenger cannot be blamed for the continued diabolical performance of our medical staff but he is absolutely 100% to blame for putting out the bullshit predictions about players returning from injuries :x I dont believe for one second that it is a coincidence that he always predicts a player to return only to find out after the transfer window shuts or too late in the transfer window to buy anybody that said player wont actually be back after all :roll:
I also would have thought that any manager worth his salt would be demanding heads roll for a situation that see's their players frequently being injured and misdiagnosed
Augie, it's HIS backroom team, HE employs them, HE praises them time and time again, surely after the several cases of misdiagonsis and false comeback dates before the Wilshere one, heads should have rolled before to stop it happening again.

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franksav63 wrote:
augie wrote:
armchair supporter wrote:
franksav63 wrote:Isn't it Wenger who always says that our medical team are the best around, lets look at the evidence, Rosicky, TV5, RVP, Diaby (who cares) and now Wilshere, misdiagnosis, incorrect treatment (RVP being sent to a horse whisperer) incorrect dates given for comebacks, couple this with scouting network, again, this is supposed to be the best around but comes up with nish, players found often end up being loaned out and then eventually sold.

Hasn't Wenger also said that Wilshere maybe fit for the Euro's, who gives a flying fuck about this, we the fans pay Wilshere's wages and he shouldn't be brought back for a couple of games at the end of the season when we're out of everything just to be fit for this cowpat of competition. The whole scene at our club is rotten from top to bottom and should be ripped up and started again.
"Nah frank its not Wengers fault. He didn't appoint them. Hes the best man for the job."

"Its all the boards fault, or the media, or Man Shitty and Chelski, or the referees, or special circumstances or the pitch, or the weather or the Anglo-Irish agreement, or the Euro, or those greedy bankers or or or anybody except our great leader" :roll:

Here dont start blaming the Irish for all this :wink: :lol:

On a serious note I do feel that wenger cannot be blamed for the continued diabolical performance of our medical staff but he is absolutely 100% to blame for putting out the bullshit predictions about players returning from injuries :x I dont believe for one second that it is a coincidence that he always predicts a player to return only to find out after the transfer window shuts or too late in the transfer window to buy anybody that said player wont actually be back after all :roll:
I also would have thought that any manager worth his salt would be demanding heads roll for a situation that see's their players frequently being injured and misdiagnosed
Augie, it's HIS backroom team, HE employs them, HE praises them time and time again, surely after the several cases of misdiagonsis and false comeback dates before the Wilshere one, heads should have rolled before to stop it happening again.
Exactly. Its all too comfortable for them.
Fergi has continually evolved, moved on, changed backroom staff, coaches, no. 2's etc and brought sustained success. (Thats actual trophies btw. Not CL positions Arsene!).

Wengers staff seem to be just going throug the motions knowing they're gonna get paid and praised no-matter what?
It really is an absolute disgrace and mis-management of the highest order from our manager. :x

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armchair supporter wrote:
franksav63 wrote:
augie wrote:
armchair supporter wrote:
franksav63 wrote:Isn't it Wenger who always says that our medical team are the best around, lets look at the evidence, Rosicky, TV5, RVP, Diaby (who cares) and now Wilshere, misdiagnosis, incorrect treatment (RVP being sent to a horse whisperer) incorrect dates given for comebacks, couple this with scouting network, again, this is supposed to be the best around but comes up with nish, players found often end up being loaned out and then eventually sold.

Hasn't Wenger also said that Wilshere maybe fit for the Euro's, who gives a flying fuck about this, we the fans pay Wilshere's wages and he shouldn't be brought back for a couple of games at the end of the season when we're out of everything just to be fit for this cowpat of competition. The whole scene at our club is rotten from top to bottom and should be ripped up and started again.
"Nah frank its not Wengers fault. He didn't appoint them. Hes the best man for the job."

"Its all the boards fault, or the media, or Man Shitty and Chelski, or the referees, or special circumstances or the pitch, or the weather or the Anglo-Irish agreement, or the Euro, or those greedy bankers or or or anybody except our great leader" :roll:

Here dont start blaming the Irish for all this :wink: :lol:

On a serious note I do feel that wenger cannot be blamed for the continued diabolical performance of our medical staff but he is absolutely 100% to blame for putting out the bullshit predictions about players returning from injuries :x I dont believe for one second that it is a coincidence that he always predicts a player to return only to find out after the transfer window shuts or too late in the transfer window to buy anybody that said player wont actually be back after all :roll:
I also would have thought that any manager worth his salt would be demanding heads roll for a situation that see's their players frequently being injured and misdiagnosed
Augie, it's HIS backroom team, HE employs them, HE praises them time and time again, surely after the several cases of misdiagonsis and false comeback dates before the Wilshere one, heads should have rolled before to stop it happening again.
Exactly. Its all too comfortable for them.
Fergi has continually evolved, moved on, changed backroom staff, coaches, no. 2's etc and brought sustained success. (Thats actual trophies btw. Not CL positions Arsene!).

Wengers staff seem to be just going throug the motions knowing they're gonna get paid and praised no-matter what?
It really is an absolute disgrace and mis-management of the highest order from our manager.
:x
Amend the word staff to players and it's exactly the same for the pampered princess' who regularly turn out for the first team - no matter how badly they perform they are not criticised, or put under any pressure reagding their squad status and excuses and lies are manufactured to deflect any blame.

Take some fucking responsibility for your own actions (or lack of) Wenger

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