IF Arsenal finish 4th and win the FA Cup

[Henry Norris 1913]

I rate Wenger as a football manager, always have done - that's all I am saying really.

I know some of you must be pissed off at recent results but without Wenger you'd still be playing long ball football and would still be at Highbury.

GG is not the answer.

long ball football ? fair enough
highbury ? yes please, any day of the week.

And why do these muppets keep saying "if wenger never came", as if we want him killed and to back in time to '96 before he arrived? we don't want him out based on his overall record but based on the last 5 years. The disrespect to the fans and the club, not using the money we had because he wanted to persevere with his project than make obvious improvements to the squad everyone could see we needed.
If your going to tell us we should keep wenger then try to understand the situation a bit better than come in here going on about the invincibles, as if that has anything to do with it. Brian Clough won two european championships with forest ffs

[SteveO 35]

Swanners if you are going to be the resident WUM mate can you at least do the decent thing and take on Red Member's style of posting

I'll start you off mate. Who is your favourite current Arsenal player. Is it

a) Robin Van Persie

or

b) Carlos Vela

[Swanners]

Swanners if you are going to be the resident WUM mate can you at least do the decent thing and take on Red Member's style of posting

I'll start you off mate. Who is your favourite current Arsenal player. Is it

a) Robin Van Persie

or

b) Carlos Vela

You are obsessed with this Red Member fellow (see my post in your thread about him in The Basement).

Robin Van Persie is a superb player but too injury prone for me, wouldn't want him if I was one of the "top sides" put it that way.

Vela started alright in an Arsenal shirt but soon got found out.

[SWLGooner]

Robin Van Persie is a superb player but too injury prone for me, wouldn't want him if I was one of the "top sides" put it that way.

This guy's quite obviously a WUM

[Swanners]

I rate Wenger as a football manager, always have done - that's all I am saying really.

I know some of you must be pissed off at recent results but without Wenger you'd still be playing long ball football and would still be at Highbury.

GG is not the answer.

long ball football ? fair enough
highbury ? yes please, any day of the week.

And why do these muppets keep saying "if wenger never came", as if we want him killed and to back in time to '96 before he arrived? we don't want him out based on his overall record but based on the last 5 years. The disrespect to the fans and the club, not using the money we had because he wanted to persevere with his project than make obvious improvements to the squad everyone could see we needed.
If your going to tell us we should keep wenger then try to understand the situation a bit better than come in here going on about the invincibles, as if that has anything to do with it. Brian Clough won two european championships with forest ffs

Why do so many of you crave for the Highbury experience again? I went there a few times (once when you played Everton, the other against Villa) and the atmosphere was terrible on both occassions - it was more or less the same as it is these days at The Emirates, at least with the newer stadium you get higher capacity and I think it's a beautiful stadium.

[SammyDroppedHisShorts]

What id liek to know i show a Swansea fan knows so much about ARsenal...in some cases more than the majority on here....

whereas NO ONE givea a shite about the sheep shaggers...well maybe Jayson does

[Swanners]

Robin Van Persie is a superb player but too injury prone for me, wouldn't want him if I was one of the "top sides" put it that way.

This guy's quite obviously a WUM

So RVP isn't injury prone? Ah right, must have been living on a different planet to you for the last decade or so.

[Swanners]

What id liek to know i show a Swansea fan knows so much about ARsenal...in some cases more than the majority on here....

whereas NO ONE givea a shite about the sheep shaggers...well maybe Jayson does

I am a lover of football and take a keen interest in most of the top sides, Arsenal included. Is that a crime?

I couldn't give two shits if you cared about Swansea or not. We're doing quite well at the moment thank you very much

[g88ner]

What id liek to know i show a Swansea fan knows so much about ARsenal...in some cases more than the majority on here....

whereas NO ONE gives a shite about the sheep shaggers...well maybe Jayson does

Well, I'd say Rosie probably know's a thing or 2 about sheep shagging as well. After all, I doubt he moved to Wales for the weather!

[Swanners]

Yeah because North London is such a safe, scenic, peaceful place to live

[Top Londoner]

if all that happen, I'll be sure those mayans were right.

Brilliant post. Just made me laugh mate. Cheers

[SWLGooner]

DON'T FEED THE TROLL.

Any coincidence Monostich was from Swansea?

All he's doing now is trying to wind people up.

[SWLGooner]

Robin Van Persie is a superb player but too injury prone for me, wouldn't want him if I was one of the "top sides" put it that way.

This guy's quite obviously a WUM

So RVP isn't injury prone? Ah right, must have been living on a different planet to you for the last decade or so.

He would walk into the United, City, Chelsea or Spurs team.

What other 'top sides' are there?

[Henry Norris 1913]

I rate Wenger as a football manager, always have done - that's all I am saying really.

I know some of you must be pissed off at recent results but without Wenger you'd still be playing long ball football and would still be at Highbury.

GG is not the answer.

long ball football ? fair enough
highbury ? yes please, any day of the week.

And why do these muppets keep saying "if wenger never came", as if we want him killed and to back in time to '96 before he arrived? we don't want him out based on his overall record but based on the last 5 years. The disrespect to the fans and the club, not using the money we had because he wanted to persevere with his project than make obvious improvements to the squad everyone could see we needed.
If your going to tell us we should keep wenger then try to understand the situation a bit better than come in here going on about the invincibles, as if that has anything to do with it. Brian Clough won two european championships with forest ffs

Why do so many of you crave for the Highbury experience again? I went there a few times (once when you played Everton, the other against Villa) and the atmosphere was terrible on both occassions - it was more or less the same as it is these days at The Emirates, at least with the newer stadium you get higher capacity and I think it's a beautiful stadium.

and when was this? before or after the old north bank got torn down? not that it bothers me as I doubt you did, calling a big, souless bowl full of tourists, uninterested kids and old men "beautiful", I'd say ninian park was the most beautiful football ground of all time. Great atmopshere, that massive grandstand and that Brace's bread image on the roof made it a sight to behold. Shame that cardiff left, they are a huge football club and they also deserve champions league football.

[Red Gunner]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't football about winning silverware? So if Wenger wins another FA Cup (which is classed as MAJOR SILVERWARE by most supporters) you'd still want him gone?

Every dog has his day. One cup triumph will not make up for the mistakes he's consistently made over the course of the last five years. McLeish managed to win a cup with a relegated side. Even 'Arry did with Portsmouth.

And not to sound arrogant but you support a smaller club so a cup would mean everything for you. Not for bigger clubs though. Look at Real Madrid, they are on course to win the La Liga but a lot of the fans (and media) hate Mourinho and want him out. A cup/title is not be all and end all when it comes to big clubs.

What gives Arsenal the right to challenge for the title each and every year anyway? Spurs and Man City are on the scene challenging as well now, and Chelsea/Liverpool are taking a back seat for the time being.

Erm, we pay the highest ticket prices in the Premiership. That's a start... But OK, we have no right to challenge for the title every year. We do though have the right to except a committed side who doesn't throw away 4-goal leads and doesn't lose 8-2. And those two embarrassments are no regular occurrence in football. We actually set records with those two.

Wenger didn't want to lose Nasri and Fabregas, he has brought fantastic players to Arsenal over the years, blame the owners/board for not offering them big fat contracts, don't blame him.

OK, we'll blame the board for not giving Nasri and Fabregas fat contracts. Interestingly though, Fabregas actually took a £4.4 million pay cut to join Barcelona. So his move was not over a fat contract, it was over footballing reasons. That's why I rate him. But back to the subject. So we blame the board for not giving out fat contracts to very good players, but who do we blame for giving fat contacts to painfully average players like Diaby, Denilson, Almunia and Bendtner? The latter three are on such high inflated wages, we can't even get anyone to take them off our hands. Surely it wasn't the board who decided to reward these mediocre players for failures on the football pitch. Also did the board sign Chamakh, Squillaci and Park? All whilst coming up with statements like "we want to add not quality, but super quality."

You'll be back, but these things take lots of time.

Hopefully we'll be back. But when? Wenger has continuously failed to deal with our weaknesses and is too stubborn. It's been the same cycle for five years now. We get decent players, and once they perform for one or two seasons, we sell them on and fail to adequately replace them. Our side deteriorates with each season. When will enough be enough? Mid-table obscurity? I think we might see that after Van Persie leaves this summer. Will Wenger then be the one to take us back? If so, how? If something is broken, fix it. Wenger ain't fixing it and doesn't want to fix it.