Newcastle game

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I'm the 1st to critiscise this team but tonight they deserve praise for a full on performance from start to finish. Even if it had finished 1-1 I wouldn't have moaned as for once the team put in a huge effort.

Theo had a good game but Rosicky had a fucking blinder. If I'd been there I'd have gone mental when he was taken off. The Ox was slightly off tonight but still did more than his peers most weeks. The defence was excellent and guided Ches through not one of his better games. If only this team showed balks on a regular basis......

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augie wrote:I think they said after the match that almost 70% of our attacks went down our right hand side tonight which might explain why the ox wasn't in the game as much as usual.
As regards my criticisms of feo tonight, I did say at ht that he had knocked in some good crosses but mixed that in with some woeful ball control at times. Are we saying he done well by his standards or did well by anybody's standards ? Do we think that had the ox been playing right wing with the same supply line he wouldn't have done any better or, maybe wouldn't even have done as well as feo did ? For what it is worth I thought that feo did better tonight than he has done for a while but I also feel that the ox would probably have produced more given the same possession
Got to agree with this. We need an actual winger on the right side. Someone that will take guys on and have composure inside the box like Ox shows. Hard to tell why he didn't seem to get the ball out on the left tonight, was is because he kept coming in the middle of the park or was he coming inside because he wasn't getting the ball in the first place?

Hard to decide what Theo you want to show up, the one that is terrible but will pop up for two goals as he did against spuds, or the one that does well all game and contributes some assists in a nervy affair?

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Just got home after post match beer etc.

Theo poor first half apart from his part in the goal, but came to life second half. Even if his crossing is inconsistent, he always puts the other side under pressure.

The Ox looked tired.

Rosicky seems like a new player in his forward midfield role. Twists, turns, uses hitherto unforseen body strength, and generally makes a nuisance of himself.

Poor game from Song, who kept losing possession.

Szczesny needs to improve distribution too.

Great goal from RvP.

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QuartzGooner wrote:Just got home after post match beer etc.

Theo poor first half apart from his part in the goal, but came to life second half. Even if his crossing is inconsistent, he always puts the other side under pressure.

The Ox looked tired.

Rosicky seems like a new player in his forward midfield role. Twists, turns, uses hitherto unforseen body strength, and generally makes a nuisance of himself.

Poor game from Song, who kept losing possession.

Szczesny needs to improve distribution too.

Great goal from RvP.
Was we at the same game thought theo had a very good match both halfs he was taking on defenders right from the start and his distribution for once was very good .

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Was working and only caught the second half, it honestly seems that at times the player are like the fans, nervous and panicy, too many players flying forward rather than looking for intelligent space to help the move progress. But we got our chance and took it. Morale must be high within the squad, and rightfully so. This is the type of game we would have given away over the last couple of years. And really proud again of the fight the lads put in. It wasnt perfect, or quite good enough in the finishing department, but we got the job done and thats all that matters.

COME ON YOU GUNNERS!!!!!

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Arteta Song and Ramsey are human handbrakes. Rosicky is the only one who presses FORWARD when he gets the ball and doesnt look for sideways passes 100% of the time. Love his new found strength on the ball. He gets the ball, turns upfield and rides challenges like a pro.

When Wilshire returns its should be Song, Wilshire and Rosicky as starters in the midfield. For the time being, Ox should start with Rosicky and Song, as he did in the Milan home game where he was magnificent. How can Wenger not see this?!?

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swimmer1 wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:Just got home after post match beer etc.

Theo poor first half apart from his part in the goal, but came to life second half. Even if his crossing is inconsistent, he always puts the other side under pressure.

The Ox looked tired.

Rosicky seems like a new player in his forward midfield role. Twists, turns, uses hitherto unforseen body strength, and generally makes a nuisance of himself.

Poor game from Song, who kept losing possession.

Szczesny needs to improve distribution too.

Great goal from RvP.

Was we at the same game
thought theo had a very good match both halfs he was taking on defenders right from the start and his distribution for once was very good .
First half he played a key part in the goal as I said, but otherwise I thought he was not effective. He ran a lot, as he does most games, and he saw a lot of the ball, most of the play was on our right, but very little came of it.

Second half he made more space for himself and played in more good passes.

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What I've enjoyed since we got wiped out away to Milan is the Passion,spirit and never say die attitude ,I'l be getting up for any night games from now on but the missus will sleep in the other room after tonight's outbursts !

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Another huge 3 points puts us right on the Scum's shoulder. I was hopping around the gaff when the winner went in. Nothing better than a late winner. 8)

Thought Feo did ok first half, nothing great, but he improved 2nd half. He supplied both crosses for the 2 goals and that is all you can ask from a wide player, I suppose, so credit to him. But MOTM? WTF? No way. Rosicky was the best player on the pitch by a mile. He just never stopped tackling, harrassing, pushing forward, picking out sweet passes all night.

All in, it was a great win and a gutsy (if nervous at times) performance.

A couple of very worrying negatives though.

Again Song was appalling. This is our first choice DM. In a league where the DM role is crucial. And yet he was constantly caught square-on up at the halfway line. And gave away clumsy stupid fouls. And misspassed almost every ball. And got caught in posession again and again. Woeful, just woeful. But hey - he has passed two killer balls to RVP this season so he's a midfield genius according to some! :roll:

Chesney has the potential to be a top top keeper (and he is lightyears better than any of the other keepers at the club) but his distribution and decision making is awful at times. He has got to work on both. And Gibbs was like a schoolboy showing his oppo inside for their goal. Great defenders anticipate, they act, they dictate to the attacking player, they decide where to channel him. Poor and average defenders react to the oppo attacker like Gibbs did last night. He too has potential but has to work on his game big time.

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Always nice to beat Pardew 8) :lol: :barscarf:

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Dan_85 wrote:Always nice to beat Pardew 8) :lol: :barscarf:
:D

Did you see the twat waving his little piece of paper around above his head when they scored? 53 seconds later that paper was balled up on the ground. :lol: 8)

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DB10GOONER wrote:Another huge 3 points puts us right on the Scum's shoulder. I was hopping around the gaff when the winner went in. Nothing better than a late winner. 8)

Thought Feo did ok first half, nothing great, but he improved 2nd half. He supplied both crosses for the 2 goals and that is all you can ask from a wide player, I suppose, so credit to him. But MOTM? WTF? No way. Rosicky was the best player on the pitch by a mile. He just never stopped tackling, harrassing, pushing forward, picking out sweet passes all night.

All in, it was a great win and a gutsy (if nervous at times) performance.

A couple of very worrying negatives though.

Again Song was appalling. This is our first choice DM. In a league where the DM role is crucial. And yet he was constantly caught square-on up at the halfway line. And gave away clumsy stupid fouls. And misspassed almost every ball. And got caught in posession again and again. Woeful, just woeful. But hey - he has passed two killer balls to RVP this season so he's a midfield genius according to some! :roll:

Chesney has the potential to be a top top keeper (and he is lightyears better than any of the other keepers at the club) but his distribution and decision making is awful at times. He has got to work on both. And Gibbs was like a schoolboy showing his oppo inside for their goal. Great defenders anticipate, they act, they dictate to the attacking player, they decide where to channel him. Poor and average defenders react to the oppo attacker like Gibbs did last night. He too has potential but has to work on his game big time.
What a load of tosh, Song did well last night and his quick thinking in picking up a loose ball led to the winner, as for 2 assists this season, that is a blatant lie or a bigotted denial of what he has contributed, he has had 2 great assists in the last 3 games alone.
A very poor almost troll like post db, would expect something more factual and perceptive from you.

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OX was not off he didnt get the ball. It was all down the Walcott side for some reason. I have never seen AFC attack down one flank like we did tonight.
Its time to keep OX on for 90 mins. I dont see Gilvinho making an impression here along with Park and Chamkah.
Brilliant performance from the team.

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goonersid wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:Another huge 3 points puts us right on the Scum's shoulder. I was hopping around the gaff when the winner went in. Nothing better than a late winner. 8)

Thought Feo did ok first half, nothing great, but he improved 2nd half. He supplied both crosses for the 2 goals and that is all you can ask from a wide player, I suppose, so credit to him. But MOTM? WTF? No way. Rosicky was the best player on the pitch by a mile. He just never stopped tackling, harrassing, pushing forward, picking out sweet passes all night.

All in, it was a great win and a gutsy (if nervous at times) performance.

A couple of very worrying negatives though.

Again Song was appalling. This is our first choice DM. In a league where the DM role is crucial. And yet he was constantly caught square-on up at the halfway line. And gave away clumsy stupid fouls. And misspassed almost every ball. And got caught in posession again and again. Woeful, just woeful. But hey - he has passed two killer balls to RVP this season so he's a midfield genius according to some! :roll:

Chesney has the potential to be a top top keeper (and he is lightyears better than any of the other keepers at the club) but his distribution and decision making is awful at times. He has got to work on both. And Gibbs was like a schoolboy showing his oppo inside for their goal. Great defenders anticipate, they act, they dictate to the attacking player, they decide where to channel him. Poor and average defenders react to the oppo attacker like Gibbs did last night. He too has potential but has to work on his game big time.
What a load of tosh, Song did well last night and his quick thinking in picking up a loose ball led to the winner, as for 2 assists this season, that is a blatant lie or a bigotted denial of what he has contributed, he has had 2 great assists in the last 3 games alone.
A very poor almost troll like post db, would expect something more factual and perceptive from you.

Easy with the troll accusations there, mate. :roll:

If you think Song played well last night then that's your opinion but I have no idea what game you were watching. He was woeful. Again.

Whenever he has done well, I've given him credit. But when he is pants I'll call it as I see it. Of course he has done more than "just 2 killer balls all season" that's a throw away line, an exageration for effect, as you well know it is. But he has done not very much more. The key point is he is not good enough to be first choice DM in a team looking to win the PL or CL. His negative impact in games far outweighs his positives on the majority of occasions. At best he is average. At worst he is a liability.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Dan_85 wrote:Always nice to beat Pardew 8) :lol: :barscarf:
:D

Did you see the twat waving his little piece of paper around above his head when they scored? 53 seconds later that paper was balled up on the ground. :lol: 8)
he has the manner of a right cocky, self satisfied , smug *word censored*. would like wenger going mental in his face

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