GERVINHO

[franksav63]

I told you all. Fact.
Watched him play at Lille and he was budget there, looked inferior to Moussa Sow and of course Hazard was the real baller in that team. I said it back then and will say it again: no football brain, rubbish first touch, no awareness whatsoever of what's around him (remember the lack of pass to RVP at Ewood park), no skill, shocking crossing and little end product.
He's the Ivorian Tony Daley as I said before, a poor man's Kalou (like you can get shitter than Kalou).
Funny thing is, Wenger will sign Kalou too next summer, watch. Wenger is now actively helping the Chavs get rid of their shite, first Benayoun and soon Kalou...

I digress. What's even funnier is the 'I won't judge him yet'?

Really? Funny that excuse I keep hearing from Arsenal fans. You have the most expensive tickets in European football yet, you 'cannot judge' players the imbecile manager has spent £11 mil on until after more than one year!!! Only at Arsene FC. Hilarious. So errr...does it require that much time to judge whether a player can control a ball, spot a free man and cross a ball? Really? Does a player on £70k a week need a whole year before one can evaluate his first touch?

Papis Cisse cost less than Gervinho and also came from another league.
Funny how Newcastle fans judged him good enough a few months in...

Demba Ba cost far less than Gervinho and also came from a foreign league.
Funny how West Ham fans (and now Newcastle) could spot his quality after a few short months.

Juan Mata comes from a foreign league also, slighter physical frame...but doesn't take long to realise how good he is does it?

Luka Modric came from a foreign championship that is barely competitive etc...how long did it take Spuds to figure out how good he was?

Why is it then, with Arsenal players, deluded fans are always going on about 'judging in a year'?

Did ye not all claim Chamakh need a year to be judged? And Almunia? And Mertesacker? And could we not judge Park since 'he doesn't get enough game time' (erm there's a reason for that!)...

You're either good enough or not. Sure some players need time to adapt to the pace of a league etc but flashes of quality always come out. Bergkamp took ages to settle but you could see his quality. Ljungberg is a false example as he destroyed Man United at Highbury in one of his very first appearances - you need to be pretty dam good to do that. Pires took time but had flashes of brilliance.

Gervinho, the pregnant forehead, does nowt but show flashes of unadulterated, shite.

Got to totally agree with every word you have said here...

Good post, and yes, he is very, very shit.

[Rosie_titters]

just another signing, who didn't feel you with confidence - and as the season as gone on, he has got worst - and when Wenger brings him on - you already seem to know - he ain't going to do eff all.

how long will OX stay around, when he sees the likes of Ramsey and Gervinho coming on before him

[flash gunner]

Don't listen to Baba, he's successfully predicted 27 of our last 5 defeats.

[donaldo]

Wenger can often see something others don't

Like the boy in the Sixth Sense who saw dead people.Wenger sees shit players

[LDB]

For a guy who despises every player in Ligue 1 Babatunde sure does spend a lot of time watching it

But hes right on Gervinho. He has egg on his face re: koscielny though because he definitely showed glimpses of brilliance in his first season with us (keeping messi in his pocket for most of 90 minutes).

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, this is the bloke who labelled Arteta "just a spanish denilson" afterall

[arseofacrow]

Wenger can often see something others don't

Like the boy in the Sixth Sense who saw dead people.Wenger sees shit players

Edit: PLOT SPOILER ABOVE

[SteveO 35]

Whether you agree with the style of Baba's ranting or not, he makes a valid point about how long do you wait before judging a player. This guy was our first major piece of business in the Summer, and I'm afraid that for fees upwards of €10m we are entitled to expect more than he has delivered in his first season.

The Ox was signed for somewhere in the region of £12m-£15m and has had more of an impact and is several years younger.

The type of players that are entitled to a bedding in period are the likes of Carl Jenkinson, a lower division signing, finding his way in the game and having to make a major step up in class. I'm afraid that Park, Gervinho and Mertesacker are supposedly international class players, past their teenage years, and all expected to make an impact now.......and they have all been fucking shit

[goonersid]

I told you all. Fact.
Watched him play at Lille and he was budget there, looked inferior to Moussa Sow and of course Hazard was the real baller in that team. I said it back then and will say it again: no football brain, rubbish first touch, no awareness whatsoever of what's around him (remember the lack of pass to RVP at Ewood park), no skill, shocking crossing and little end product.
He's the Ivorian Tony Daley as I said before, a poor man's Kalou (like you can get shitter than Kalou).
Funny thing is, Wenger will sign Kalou too next summer, watch. Wenger is now actively helping the Chavs get rid of their shite, first Benayoun and soon Kalou...

I digress. What's even funnier is the 'I won't judge him yet'?

Really? Funny that excuse I keep hearing from Arsenal fans. You have the most expensive tickets in European football yet, you 'cannot judge' players the imbecile manager has spent £11 mil on until after more than one year!!! Only at Arsene FC. Hilarious. So errr...does it require that much time to judge whether a player can control a ball, spot a free man and cross a ball? Really? Does a player on £70k a week need a whole year before one can evaluate his first touch?

Papis Cisse cost less than Gervinho and also came from another league.
Funny how Newcastle fans judged him good enough a few months in...

Demba Ba cost far less than Gervinho and also came from a foreign league.
Funny how West Ham fans (and now Newcastle) could spot his quality after a few short months.

Juan Mata comes from a foreign league also, slighter physical frame...but doesn't take long to realise how good he is does it?

Luka Modric came from a foreign championship that is barely competitive etc...how long did it take Spuds to figure out how good he was?

Why is it then, with Arsenal players, deluded fans are always going on about 'judging in a year'?

Did ye not all claim Chamakh need a year to be judged? And Almunia? And Mertesacker? And could we not judge Park since 'he doesn't get enough game time' (erm there's a reason for that!)...

You're either good enough or not. Sure some players need time to adapt to the pace of a league etc but flashes of quality always come out. Bergkamp took ages to settle but you could see his quality. Ljungberg is a false example as he destroyed Man United at Highbury in one of his very first appearances - you need to be pretty dam good to do that. Pires took time but had flashes of brilliance.

Gervinho, the pregnant forehead, does nowt but show flashes of unadulterated, shite.

Once again Babs, when you stick to football matters and avoid slanging matches, your observations are unrivalled in accuracy.

[flash gunner]

Once again Babs, when you stick to football matters and avoid slanging matches, your observations are unrivalled in accuracy.

If only his predictions were the same, as JD said he has predicted 27 of our last 5 defeats, Koscielny is a poor lige 2 player and that sp*rs would shit all over us in the game we won 5-2

Keep 'em coming Mystic Meg

[goonersid]

Once again Babs, when you stick to football matters and avoid slanging matches, your observations are unrivalled in accuracy.

If only his predictions were the same, as JD said he has predicted 27 of our last 5 defeats, Koscielny is a poor lige 2 player and that sp*rs would shit all over us in the game we won 5-2

Keep 'em coming Mystic Meg

You can talk, you said everything would be rosy in the Wenger garden after the Wigan game.

[flash gunner]

Once again Babs, when you stick to football matters and avoid slanging matches, your observations are unrivalled in accuracy.

If only his predictions were the same, as JD said he has predicted 27 of our last 5 defeats, Koscielny is a poor lige 2 player and that sp*rs would shit all over us in the game we won 5-2

Keep 'em coming Mystic Meg

You can talk, you said everything would be rosy in the Wenger garden after the Wigan game.

Ive been right occasionally and wrong occasionally regarding Wengers garden for about 18 months now

[SteveO 35]

If Wenger has a garden I would imagine that it is one that blooms nicely in the Autumn, gets by in Winter, and then withers during the harsh rains and frosts of Spring.

However, there is a less mature area that he constantly crop rotates that has a great potential for 2-3 years time

[goonersid]

If Wenger has a garden I would imagine that it is one that blooms nicely in the Autumn, gets by in Winter, and then withers during the harsh rains and frosts of Spring.

However, there is a less mature area that he constantly crop rotates that has a great potential for 2-3 years time

I reckon he also neglects to deadhead and doesn't like weeding.

[I Hate Hleb]

Mr Wenger sure does love his weeds!!

Edit: On second thoughts, perhaps if Arsene partook the consumption of the 'alternative' weed that I'm so fond of, he'd have a clearer idea of what needs doing!!

[SteveO 35]

If Wenger has a garden I would imagine that it is one that blooms nicely in the Autumn, gets by in Winter, and then withers during the harsh rains and frosts of Spring.

However, there is a less mature area that he constantly crop rotates that has a great potential for 2-3 years time

I reckon he also neglects to deadhead and doesn't like weeding.

Hmmm....I would think that he would deadhead as it means he can use the same plants for the following year, as the answer is not always to buy you know. There are 2 markets for plants - one is the garden centre where everybody buys, and the other is to cultivate your own plot using seeds and clippings that other people have disregarded