As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
highburyJD wrote:A draw was a terrible result for them - all their eggs are now in the beatBarcabasket. Very poor management from RdM IMO.
I thought the same, yet some sections of the media seemed to thing is was a better point for them than us, and that's nonsense! - that point, regardless of our performance, has kept 3rd place in our hands and kept chavs 4pts behind us instead of 1.
Not sure all their eggs are in the CL basket though. They're only 4pts back on Newcastle and us, so 4th place is still well within reach for them. Especially as they have Newcastle at Stamford bridge coming up.
highburyJD wrote:A draw was a terrible result for them - all their eggs are now in the beatBarcabasket. Very poor management from RdM IMO.
I thought the same, yet some sections of the media seemed to thing is was a better point for them than us, and that's nonsense! - that point, regardless of our performance, has kept 3rd place in our hands and kept chavs 4pts behind us instead of 1.
Not sure all their eggs are in the CL basket though. They're only 4pts back on Newcastle and us, so 4th place is still well within reach for them. Especially as they have Newcastle at Stamford bridge coming up.
have to be honest didn't realise they were so close...
still can't see them finishing ahead of Sperz,
tactical genius twitcher has to start playing Bale wide left soon - then all in the the Babayiddo garden will be rosy
Barcode game is a few days before the cup final so probably no Drogs, I can see Liverpool maybe taking a draw (they're so shit maybe not...)
7/8- I have to say I assumed Chelski would go for it last ten mins, maybe Wenger did too. A draw was a terrible result for them - all their eggs are now in the beatBarcabasket. Very poor management from RdM IMO.
Not sure if I was watching a different game but I thought they did. Now it could have down to my nervousness and the fearful anticipation that something was bound to go wrong, but Chelsea certainly seemed the liklier of the two sides to snatch it in the last ten minutes - and indeed for most of the second half - to my eyes anyway.
highburyJD wrote:A draw was a terrible result for them - all their eggs are now in the beatBarcabasket. Very poor management from RdM IMO.
I thought the same, yet some sections of the media seemed to thing is was a better point for them than us, and that's nonsense! - that point, regardless of our performance, has kept 3rd place in our hands and kept chavs 4pts behind us instead of 1.
Not sure all their eggs are in the CL basket though. They're only 4pts back on Newcastle and us, so 4th place is still well within reach for them. Especially as they have Newcastle at Stamford bridge coming up.
But if the scum had of beaten qpr would that drav v the chavs not have been a disaster for us ? If they narrowed to within 4pts of us with a game in hand and you looked at their remaininmg fixtures you would have to think that there was a fair old chance they would overtake us. For me the result was a poor one when you consider that the chavs were there for the taking but it could have been a disaster if the scum didnt continue to capitulate - dont mistake that as a good point for us cos of that though
highburyJD wrote:1- trouble for me is Song looked like he was still playing twin pivot
2- and without Arteta that's difficult - luckily it's a more natural fit with the reurning Diaby and Coq
3- Walcott was mostly poor but RVP should have scored from his excellent FK. Strange to isolate Theo rather than everyone's hero Ox who was far worse IMO
4- I thought Gerv showed a slight improvement (albeit from a very low base)
5- Rambo dwelt on the ball and was robbed by Torres a few times (when did Torres start tracking back?) apart from that thought he was just a bit too conservative with the ball - trying to fill in for Tets. I thought Rambo's passing accuracy was improved (cue stats to prove me wrong...)
6- RVP was poor - shows how bad our bench is
7/8- I have to say I assumed Chelski would go for it last ten mins, maybe Wenger did too. A draw was a terrible result for them - all their eggs are now in the beatBarcabasket. Very poor management from RdM IMO.
RE;
3. Feo Feo has had years in the first team to sort his game out. We are still waiting. Agreed Ox was poor on Saturday but he is at the beginning of his career. Cannot compare the two like for like IMHO.
7/8. It being a terrible result for them doesn't make it a good result for us.
DB10GOONER wrote:RE;
3. Feo Feo has had years in the first team to sort his game out. We are still waiting. Agreed Ox was poor on Saturday but he is at the beginning of his career. Cannot compare the two like for like IMHO.
7/8. It being a terrible result for them doesn't make it a good result for us.
IMO Theo gets a disproportionate amount of stick but I know I won't win that battle here
he indisputably should/could do more, I still believe in him enough that he deserves another chance
7/8 I think it was a decent result - don't see them catching us now. We picked up a point on Spuds who are our main threat.
augie wrote:
For me the result was a poor one when you consider that the chavs were there for the taking but it could have been a disaster if the scum didnt continue to capitulate - dont mistake that as a good point for us cos of that though
I accept that, but I was very worried Chelsea would win and that really would have tightened things up... and given Sp*rs and Newcastle the chance to overtake us on points with their games in hand.
A point kept 3rd place in our hands (as our goal difference is far superior to Newcastle's) and then Sp*rs lost at QPR and turned an acceptable point into a good one.
I think Newcastle will falter against Chelsea and maybe Citeh (and maybe even Everton), so in my eyes, 2 wins will secure 3rd... and that's not a bad position to be in considering who we have to play and where we were 3 months ago.
So in that sense, I think a point against Chelsea was a good one.
Just to be clear, I'm not saying we played well against Chelsea, because we didn't! but considering how poor we were (our midfield was shocking!) I thought coming away with a point was a relief and allows us to focus on getting 3rd by beating mid-table opposition with nothing to play for other than spoiling our season.
DB10GOONER wrote:RE;
3. Feo Feo has had years in the first team to sort his game out. We are still waiting. Agreed Ox was poor on Saturday but he is at the beginning of his career. Cannot compare the two like for like IMHO.
7/8. It being a terrible result for them doesn't make it a good result for us.
IMO Theo gets a disproportionate amount of stick but I know I won't win that battle here
he indisputably should/could do more, I still believe in him enough that he deserves another chance
7/8 I think it was a decent result - don't see them catching us now. We picked up a point on Spuds who are our main threat.
I think where Theo is concerned the well of good tidings has run a little dry for alot of Gooners. He talks a big game but he rarely delivers one. Also I think the modern PL football fan is not as patient or forgiving as a football fan back in the 70's or 80's might have been. Modern fans look at a kid of 20-something earning 80k-100k a week and not delivering the goods and they get a bit pissed off. Back in the 70's most players were not earning much above average wage so I think fans then (myself included) weren't so quick to critizise.
This is not the Ist Div or Champsionship we are talking about here, this is the PL and we are one of the Big 4 and Theo is on top top money and still year after year he does not deliver enough. I think if you want to be justified in earning top money at the pinacle of the game then you have to deliver game in game out. Otherwise you should be on less money and in the football league.
Why should we suffer "average" players at that level?
DB10GOONER wrote: I think if you want to be justified in earning top money at the pinacle of the game then you have to deliver game in game out. Otherwise you should be on less money and in the football league.
Why should we suffer "average" players at that level?
who do you think does deliver week in week out?
Not many wingers
Bale (who is an amazing talent) has been rubbish for weeks, last two times I saw Valencia play he was terrible, Silva (not quite a winger but whatever) disappeared post Xmas...
Oh dear - seems like a few people have finally woken up to the fact that we might not finish in the top 4 after all
3 points above Newcastle who have Wigan up next and a game in hand. Everyone writing them off still because they have to play City, who if they fail to beat United could be virtually out of the title race by the time they play them
6 points above Spurs who have Blackburn at home next and a game in hand. I hope everyone piling into Baba still feels confident.
Given our past history against Stoke is it really beyond belief that come the end of this weekend we could be level on points with Newcastle and 3 above Spurs, both of whom will have a game in hand still ?
We are running out of players and confidence in April once more - nice to see Wenger learning his lessons from seasons of old
SteveO 35 wrote:I hope everyone piling into Baba still feels confident.
I'm hopeful that we can win our games
I'm 100% confident that blustering Baborietiya will maintain his Arsenal hating trolling negativity
and bizarre strawman arguing style (what's that I pretended you said? you're totally wrong - I can't believe you didn't say Chamakh will never score a bazillion goals this season blah blah blah homophobia)
SteveO 35 wrote:This game is just about as important as it gets and a month or so ago, I would have been looking forward to it
After Monday night's capitulation this could be the beginning of the end of the Arsenal Champions League era. Defeat here and then next up its Stoke away, where I've given us no chance even when we were playing well. Two more defeats and fifth place really is back on. Not that it matters in terms of pressure on the manager - he's bombproof - but it will spell the beginning of a long period of misery for the club where only a change of ownership and manager can take us back to being a leading force in this country again. I have that pencilled in for 2017
I'll say it again, defeat spells disaster
I feel as fucked off about the direction of our club as I have done at any point in 30 years of support......and please don't harp on about how we used to only win the odd cup (because I'd take that) and used to qualify for the UEFA Cup (which we would do now if it wasn't for the fact that you can now finish 4th and qualify).
that is a bit of an over reaction to a defeat isnt it?? I take it you agree with my opinion of putting Kenny Dalglish on the shortlist for manager of the year then? he knows how to win the odd cup - do you see him as a replacement for Wenger?
4th place, been saying it all season - we will get there!
Now it could have down to my nervousness and the fearful anticipation that something was bound to go wrong, but Chelsea certainly seemed the liklier of the two sides to snatch it in the last ten minutes - and indeed for most of the second half - to my eyes anyway. 
