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REB wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:
1989 wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:
1989 wrote:"Tottenham wanted to sign me in January but I had no idea who they were" - Lukas Podolski

:lol:
Has he actually said that? If he has, then what a fucking hero already :barscarf:
Yep, he said it in his press conference today. :barscarf:

Intersting to note that a certain poster has come on to argue that statement isnt true.Someones true colours are really shining through now,and he wonders why we think hes not an arsenal fan FACT

he never said that, it was made up and spread around twitter.

I never said it was true was only making the point everyone else thought it was amusing and funny.

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Babatunde wrote: Kick Song down to the bench, so he can practice his ludicrous 'Songinho' outside of the boot passes with an orange instead... :roll:

5. Centre-back. Anyone better than the chuckle brothers Djourou and Mert.
In amongst the rants there's always a gem or two to make me smile

I can just imagine Wenger kicking his water bottle, and Song alongside him with an orange :D

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REB wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:
1989 wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:
1989 wrote:"Tottenham wanted to sign me in January but I had no idea who they were" - Lukas Podolski

:lol:
Has he actually said that? If he has, then what a fucking hero already :barscarf:
Yep, he said it in his press conference today. :barscarf:

Intersting to note that a certain poster has come on to argue that statement isnt true.Someones true colours are really shining through now,and he wonders why we think hes not an arsenal fan FACT

he never said that, it was made up and spread around twitter.
MacDowell. Yet again, the truth makes you out to be rather silly eh?
:roll:

Oh and you think I give a shit what you think about my fandom?! LOL ha ha ha ha. Ooooh the desperation to get validation from the online community... :roll:

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as i said in my post to reb which you c hose to ignore cos it didnt fit in with the point you were making i never said it was true but the rest of us found it amusing and funny with the exception of you.


On a serious note baba do you think podolski is/ or will be a good signing.

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I think Podolski will prove a very good signing, especially if it's as a complement to RVP. Their personalities are a major clash though which is why I can't see then two playing together. That and they're both incredibly similar, their tendency to cut onto their left etc...you can't play two lefties up front, a right footer needs to play there also.

He's a very good player though Podolski.

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mcdowell42 wrote:as i said in my post to reb which you c hose to ignore cos it didnt fit in with the point you were making i never said it was true but the rest of us found it amusing and funny with the exception of you.


On a serious note baba do you think podolski is/ or will be a good signing.

the truth gets lost in quote towers :wink:

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So
Realistically, I'd be looking at someone like Diego Milito of Inter Milan, or Demba Ba's release clause of £7 mil to be our third choice striker and offer an alternative up front.
these two would be happy to come to The Arsenal and be 3rd or 4th striker?
So I would sign Vertonghen and shift him along the line. Affordable, quality player, right age.
Have you watched us play with CB's at fulback we need fullbacks with pace to help stretch teams
Centre-back. Anyone better than the chuckle brothers Djourou and Mert. That means Vertonghen, Subotic, Badstuber (doubt Bayern sell him though lol)...
For his 1st season in the PL I think PM did well his positioning and reading of the game are excellent and what I think he brought to the Arsenal defence was organisation. Yes he is slow and does goto ground a bit quick for the PL but he would of learnt a lot from this season.

Looking at the players you have named it's like FIFA13 or the Spurs rumor mill :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:

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GranadaJoe wrote: The 3rd striker role is best filled by a Welbeck type younger player coming through the ranks but we don't seem able to produce one and the cheap alternatives from France have been a disaster.
Let us hope Benik Afobe and Joel Campbell will fill that void.

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REB wrote:
mcdowell42 wrote:as i said in my post to reb which you c hose to ignore cos it didnt fit in with the point you were making i never said it was true but the rest of us found it amusing and funny with the exception of you.


On a serious note baba do you think podolski is/ or will be a good signing.

the truth gets lost in quote towers :wink:

:lol: Yeah i tried earlier on to quote and i got a message saying i could only embed 5 quotes or something along those lines.I thought it was just a way of telling me i talk too much :wink:

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Babatunde wrote:In a realistic world, and taking into account Arsenal's funds and wages, this is what I would go for.
-seems you think we have a hell of a lot of available dosh... hope you're right
Babatunde wrote:1. Left-back: He isn't a left-back but is versatile as hell and plays across the back 4. So I would sign Vertonghen and shift him along the line. Affordable, quality player, right age.
everyone seems to love him - not seen that much personally. I would love a real LB, like Baines (although he'd cost even more). Pray Gibbs/Santos can turn it round if one of them can stay fit. Don't see Wenger writing off the two encumbents - which I guess makes a utility player a la Vertonghen the most likely
Babatunde wrote:2. Number 2 goalie: Chesney is a loudmouth
seriously... from you!
Babatunde wrote:who thinks he's made it. He has talent but needs a major kick up the arse. For here, I would look to sign someone like Diego Lopez of Villareal, seeing as they are possibly going down. Lopez is a very decent keeper despite Villareal's position and has bags of talent and experience.
Lopez won't go somewhere to be #2, he's brilliant
Babatunde wrote:3. DCM. Simple one this: I would go for Javi Martinez first; Yann M'Vila second, or I would make a bid for Fellaini, who I think is outstanding. Witsel would have been my third choice but Real just agreed a deal to sign him. I'd therefore also look at Steve Defour of Standard Liege, excellent player. Again, all of these affordable. Kick Song down to the bench, so he can practice his ludicrous 'Songinho' outside of the boot passes with an orange instead... :roll:
Martinez is awesome and instantly would suit the way we want to play- surely he would cost even more then M'Vila? Can't see Pinault letting Frances first pick go on the cheap either tbh. I thought you slated me for praising Fellaini...? I could be wrong - anyway always liked him but wasnt he the Toffees record signing? Guessing he also wouldnt be cheap. Witsel and Defour - I'm sure I did a lets sign Belgium thread ages ago - this is a recycled version. They're both solid (if a little dirty) still have this underlying concern about the Belgians constantly flopping.

Songinho's through balls are never outside of the boot.
Babatunde wrote:4. Attacker. All major clubs have several options in attack. Manure have last season's Golden boot winner who never starts. Add to that Welbeck, Hernandez, Rooney. Even part-time mascot Owen. Citeh have Tevez, Balotelli, Dzeko, Aguero. Real have Higuain, Ronaldo, Benzema, Callejon. There was a time when Arsenal had Wiltord as 3rd/4th reserve...and Wiltord shits over Park and Chamakh 50 times! :shock:
2 strikers ain't enough, because injury to one and you are short again. You need variation off the bench.
Realistically, I'd be looking at someone like Diego Milito of Inter Milan, or Demba Ba's release clause of £7 mil to be our third choice striker and offer an alternative up front.
don't see players of that level coming to be 2nd fiddle - and for exactly that reason lots of the examples of depth you mention above will leave their clubs this summer. Would love us to get Ba or old man Milito
Babatunde wrote:5. Centre-back. Anyone better than the chuckle brothers Djourou and Mert. That means Vertonghen, Subotic, Badstuber (doubt Bayern sell him though lol)...
all good players - I expect Mertesacker to start ahead of Badstuber this summer
Babatunde wrote:One more thing. Gervinho must be booted out of this club ASAP. He is a joke signing, £11.5 mil. Get a creative force in there that can take players on and do the unexpected. Belhanda at Montpellier is actually a very tidy little player and would be awesome, as would Kagawa. I am sick of having to see Gervinho, Diaby (sorry he's always sick when not being shit) and crap like Benayoun/Rosicky having to be relied on to create.

Anyway why did I bother, if Wenger is managing that lot they'll still finish 4th...
:lol: :oops: :banghead: :shock:
Gervinho has so far failed to deliver hope he can turn it round. I think Belhanda is best centrally - seen a lot of him, he's class. Kagawa is also quality - the Dortmund fan Tomas thinks he would cost more than Podolski...

You've not really mentioned a player that would cost less than £10M-£12M - can't see us spending £50M-£60M without selling I don't think your statement
Babatunde wrote:In a realistic world, and taking into account Arsenal's funds and wages, this is what I would go for.
is correct.
You have highlighted pretty much all the obvious prospects, that are at clubs who would sell. Yes they're good players - yes most of them will move clubs this summer. All will want good wages. It ain't gonna happen.

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stg wrote:So
Realistically, I'd be looking at someone like Diego Milito of Inter Milan, or Demba Ba's release clause of £7 mil to be our third choice striker and offer an alternative up front.
these two would be happy to come to The Arsenal and be 3rd or 4th striker?
So I would sign Vertonghen and shift him along the line. Affordable, quality player, right age.
Have you watched us play with CB's at fulback we need fullbacks with pace to help stretch teams
Centre-back. Anyone better than the chuckle brothers Djourou and Mert. That means Vertonghen, Subotic, Badstuber (doubt Bayern sell him though lol)...
For his 1st season in the PL I think PM did well his positioning and reading of the game are excellent and what I think he brought to the Arsenal defence was organisation. Yes he is slow and does goto ground a bit quick for the PL but he would of learnt a lot from this season.

Looking at the players you have named it's like FIFA13 or the Spurs rumor mill :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:
LOL

Comical guff

I'll be kind on you.

Point 1: funny how every other team is able to get players like Chicharito, Gomis, Pedro etc...heck even Spuds had Pavlyuchenko, full international at 3rd/4 th choice for ages. Yet Arsenal with all their money, would be unable to persuade Demba Ba, a decent player with no CL experience, who would jump at the chance...we couldn't persuade him to be 3rd choice huh?

Yeah. Better to stick with Chamakh and Park
:roll:

Point 2: sooooo...because a couple of centre backs we've played at full back have played like shite (Vermaelen), better to stick with the rubbish like Gibbs and Santos. Again a comical argument. Because it failed once it'll fail again - right? Wrong. How does Lahm manage to play right and left back and look decent? How does Javi Martinez manage to play CB and DCM and be a world cup winner? How does Sergio Ramos play excellent at right back and centre back? More bollocks...

Point 3: Mertesacker. LOL. Best one of the lot!
"His positioning has been good". Errrr yeah, it better be cos he's so fucking slow to begin with imagine if he was out of position! He's in position sure...he's just not very good at stopping shots, tackling, making blocks or turning in a circle - a must for any centre back.
Mertesacker is shit. Period. Don't care how many German caps he has, it's ok when your shield is Frings or Schweinsteiger but when Alex Song is in front of you, then you'd better be dam good. His signing was always gonna flop because of Song ahead and so it's proved.

Oh and just FYI if you took a traffic cone, stuck it in the six yard box...then its positioning would be impeccable in theory. Ya know, always there etc. problem is, it'd still be more useless than a Gervinho cross.

So yah. Perhaps I've played too much FIFA. Which would still indicate that I had a clue about a football related domain. Unlike you, who thinks Demba Ba would refuse competing for 2 nd choice striker at Arsenal LOL

Oh and hold on...when people asked for a second striker in Jan, didn't jokers like you claim
"yes but who will realistically come and play second choice behind RVP as we play with one up front"

Whatever happened to that theory then? How did we sign Podolski to sit on the bench then? (unless of course, this was more AKB bullshit?)

:roll: :rubchin:

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Leaving aside who would or wouldn't join as a back-up striker for a second, the point that we do need one is really important, because even with Podolski we would be one injury away from having just one frontman and that cannot be acceptable, and we need quality. So somebody needs to be bought.
If the NorthEast's best team don't qualify for the CL and Ba really does have a low buy-out clause we should make every effort to persuade him to join. He seems to be playing second fiddle a bit to Cisse at the moment and a return to London and a bigger club and the CL could well persuade him.
It could of course be in AW's mind that Billy BigBollox Bendtner is coming back, in which case I would be happy to bow to safcftm's superior wisdom when Europe's best striker hits his twentieth of the season (though I suspect I won't be tasting humble pie any time soon).

Very little mention has been made of the need for another RB. I think Jenkinson has potential but he is currently a long way behind Sagna and we've all suffered the absence of Bacary this season to know we don't want it to happen again.

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I'll be kind on you.
You dont have to be kind Im old enough and argued the toss with better and more a articulate people than you. You emphasize the term "keyboard warrior" to a very high point, the 'I am always right' not willing to listen or read what people are saying without trying to think of how they can be shown to be wrong.
Football is a game of opinions but you have to listen and take in what others are saying otherwise you land up with a twisted and un-even view of the game. You seem more intrested in making the posters on this forum angry with your little snide comments about them instead of concentrating on the issues you are trying to put across.

So would you jump at the chance of moving from a club where you are almost garenteed a starting position every week, in a team where you have a team built that suits your style of play and you have a chance of playing in Europe next season. To move to a club where they play a diffrent formation and you know you will only play if there is an injury or the player is rested?

Im not saying CB's can not play at full back but if you look at the way The Arsenal play we need pace and attacking fullbacks to stretch teams to help give the central players space and we need another player like Sagna at left back not a CB who has been moved over just because he can.

point 3 try watching games he has played in and watch him rather than what you are being told. You are looking for the mistakes and errors and not bothering with the other things he is doing on the pitch. It's almost like reading the lazy sports media reporters only intrested in thier view and will not look at what is going on on the pitch. It's intresting that you can see all these problems but Wenger, Jürgen Klinsmann etc can not all that playing on FIFA6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 must be worth while perhaps I should buy myself a copy and not waste my money on a season ticket at The Arsenal as it does not teach you anything watching live football!!!!

If you can find at any point where I have said that we wont buy somebody like Podolski I will be amazed. Yes we need better strikers on the bench to give us diffrent options but you have to be realistic in your view on who that can be.

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GranadaJoe wrote:Leaving aside who would or wouldn't join as a back-up striker for a second, the point that we do need one is really important, because even with Podolski we would be one injury away from having just one frontman and that cannot be acceptable, and we need quality.

Very little mention has been made of the need for another RB. I think Jenkinson has potential but he is currently a long way behind Sagna and we've all suffered the absence of Bacary this season to know we don't want it to happen again.
Striker?

I think RvP, Podolski, Afobe and Campbell would be acceptable.
But I do not know if Campbell will get a work permit.
Afobe is a virtual unknown at Premier League level, but deserves a chance.

Right back?

I agree that Jenkinson looks a work in progress. I would like to see a signing here, but think Wenger will use Coquelin at times, who looked ok there considering it is not his regular position.
Yennaris may also be used.

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QuartzGooner wrote:
GranadaJoe wrote:Leaving aside who would or wouldn't join as a back-up striker for a second, the point that we do need one is really important, because even with Podolski we would be one injury away from having just one frontman and that cannot be acceptable, and we need quality.

Very little mention has been made of the need for another RB. I think Jenkinson has potential but he is currently a long way behind Sagna and we've all suffered the absence of Bacary this season to know we don't want it to happen again.
Striker?

I think RvP, Podolski, Afobe and Campbell would be acceptable.
But I do not know if Campbell will get a work permit.
Afobe is a virtual unknown at Premier League level, but deserves a chance.

Right back?

I agree that Jenkinson looks a work in progress. I would like to see a signing here, but think Wenger will use Coquelin at times, who looked ok there considering it is not his regular position.
Yennaris may also be used.
Yennaris was great at right back when he played there. Every cross he put in against united was spot on but we didn't really have anyone to aim for...... But yeah, hope he plays more often next season.

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