Arsenal v Norwich

[franksav63]

It really sums up Wenger's decision to fill our squad with wirey, gutless wimps that a rotund journeyman like Holt can give our defence a proper runaround!!

[frankbutcher]

Absolute shite performance but how that penalty was not given...........and it was a foul by on loan Spurs player Kyle Naughton. We got nothing out of that ref. Their players were pushing him at the end and yet no card. One of their players kicked the ball out of Kos' hand when he was going to take a free kick. No card.... Something not right about that ref.

In terms of the team. Scezney was shown up as the loud mouth he is. The guy is worse than Frimpong. Totally thinks he has made it and has got complacent. RVP is off after that. No way in hell he will stay for Europa League. I'll tell you something. I reckon Spurs and Newcastle will drop points today. I can just feel it. But we will get turned over at The Hawthorns.......

FUCK OFF WENGER YOU

[highburyJD]

still find it offensive to see any of our staff abused like they are here...
ho hum

[augie]

still find it offensive to see any of our staff abused like they are here...
ho hum

Apologies........I do try, honest I do but my anger seems to be rising not subsiding To be truthful I wasnt that angry leaving the ground cos there was an air of inevitability about the result (even before they scored the 1st goal) but after getting home last night the anger is just taking over - I suppose when you are rushing to catch trains, then planes and then driving home you just dont get time to think about the game and it all comes to the surface when you get home and start thinking

[donaldo]

Yes it was a penalty on RVP but no one is mentioning the one we got away with when Kos pulled the shirt off the Norwich player in the box

[Gunnersaurus]

We shouldn't be having to rely on decisions that don't happen, we had two great chances van Persie missed, we could have won, saying that, they had a couple of good ones too, one when someone was clean through.

We didnt lose because of the pen, our lack of attitude won again.

[Rosie_titters]

saw a stat on sky, saying when Sagna went off injured - that it was the 17th time this season that Wenger had to use a different back four,

I think the medical staff and training methods need looking at, Newcastle have had a great season for the fact they have been able to pick the same players week in, week out and get some consistancy

Would love to see Sagna, Kos, Vermaelen, Gibbs play together for a virtually a whole season

[Gunnersaurus]

Edit.

We didn't lose but might aswel have.

[Gunnersaurus]

saw a stat on sky, saying when Sagna went off injured - that it was the 17th time this season that Wenger had to use a different back four,

I think the medical staff and training methods need looking at, Newcastle have had a great season for the fact they have been able to pick the same players week in, week out and get some consistancy

Would love to see Sagna, Kos, Vermaelen, Gibbs play together for a virtually a whole season

To be fair they were all over the place before he went off.

[donaldo]

Would love to see Sagna, Kos, Vermaelen, Gibbs play together for a virtually a whole season

Sagna is top class, Kos has had a great season our best CB.TV has had a few dodgy games recently QPR Wigan and yesterday.He is getting outmuscled too much. Gibbs just not good enough defensively more a winger than LB.Get Baines in.What we do need is a defensive coach

[OneBardGooner]

still find it offensive to see any of our staff abused like they are here...
ho hum

Apologies........I do try, honest I do but my anger seems to be rising not subsiding To be truthful I wasnt that angry leaving the ground cos there was an air of inevitability about the result (even before they scored the 1st goal) but after getting home last night the anger is just taking over - I suppose when you are rushing to catch trains, then planes and then driving home you just dont get time to think about the game and it all comes to the surface when you get home and start thinking

I completely understand Augie - I think what you say applies to most of those Gooners who call staff and players of Arsenal 'names' - the thing is what are we supposed to do - just sit on our emotions and die of a coronary or pulmonary embolism?..Personally I don't 'Hate' anyone at Arsenal - as in Hating someone so much you want them dead or to come to great harm, but the emotions do get the better of us all - when we score/win - we all scream, shout and jump for joy lot's of jostling and craziness - so when things don't go that way - for what most fans see as solvable reasons - then we do the opposite - and the internet version of that is 'words/cursing etc'.

Due to work commitments I haven't been able to attend games (home or away) for a few months now - that doesn't mean I am not allowed to feel what I feel with the same intensity as someone who does attend game more regularly.

As for there being 'an air of inevitability'' this for me is at the heart of the matter that is getting so many of us angry, frustrated and despondent - because - there should never be any need for such a situation to exist, things should never have got this bad, to be going along to a game against a new promoted team whose main purpose in their first season is to survive.

We all know only too well the main reasons things are at such a low ebb, and yet the people we entrust to run our club and play the game itself are letting us down (not all players but I would suggest 70% of them), as is the manager and his staff and of course the board - those fools who 'own' the club - the thing we all hold so dear.

Lack of investment in players of quality we buy basement bargains, but the thing is they NOT bargains, and there is a saying 'you buy cheap you buy twice' again manager and board have let us down on this too many times - there's no need to buy 3 or 4 players every season, if the investment is constant - rather than seeing players leave and not replacing them till things are desperate, and things got quite desperate some 4 seasons ago.

Yes, we were all delighted when we signed Arshavin - and a few weeks later when he scored 4 against the victims, we all thought yes, he's the real deal....little did we know! - and chamakh!? he arrived when RVP was injured and I remember him playing really well, leading the front line and scoring goals on a regular basis, then RVP comes back...and after that he was...and has been well...we all know....but who's fault is that..I don't think it's just the players - a player doesn't go to shyte overnight for no reason....though of course there will be those who say he was shyte before he arrived, but he came with a good rep!

We have a manager who having brought us great success seems unable to 'move with the time and change with the evolution of the game at all levels (still 95% relying on a youth system that isn't baring the fruits it once did and promised) - the rule of the global financial rules changed overnight - yet the board and manager think they can persist with their old model, and of course the same board who having installed this once very successful manager, seem to have made him untouchable, to all ends and purposes he may as well be a member of the board, as it seems all his decisions are unchallenged and his position unassailable.

In business/commercial terms - Arsenal are a product around which many people's lives revolve - because they 'Love' football AND they 'Love' their team/club. So when they see that thing they love not being looked after/run well - they (understandably) gets angry.

It would appear that Wenger is here to stay for some time yet, so if Arsenal Fans are to heard they need to raise their collective voice, via petitions/protests/not investing their hard earned cash in the club and not buying tickets anymore. BUT it is this last option which is most difficult, why? because we are 'addicted' to football and addicted to Arsenal....and until we take collective action nothing will change.

I still feel like swearing and cursing...

[OneBardGooner]

Would love to see Sagna, Kos, Vermaelen, Gibbs play together for a virtually a whole season

Sagna is top class, Kos has had a great season our best CB.TV has had a few dodgy games recently QPR Wigan and yesterday.He is getting outmuscled too much. Gibbs just not good enough defensively more a winger than LB.Get Baines in.What we do need is a defensive coach

Well said D and with Pat Rice leaving this is a golden opportunity to install fresh blood and bring in new people to shake things up and enliven those players who seem listless and lazy etc...but I won't hold my breath

[Rosie_titters]

saw a stat on sky, saying when Sagna went off injured - that it was the 17th time this season that Wenger had to use a different back four,

I think the medical staff and training methods need looking at, Newcastle have had a great season for the fact they have been able to pick the same players week in, week out and get some consistancy

Would love to see Sagna, Kos, Vermaelen, Gibbs play together for a virtually a whole season

To be fair they were all over the place before he went off.

yeah i know, i don't know the stats, but how many games have they played this season together and the same with the midfield, Wenger keeps chopping and changing, the only player who has been consistent has been RVP and he's played virtually every game

[OneBardGooner]

saw a stat on sky, saying when Sagna went off injured - that it was the 17th time this season that Wenger had to use a different back four,

I think the medical staff and training methods need looking at, Newcastle have had a great season for the fact they have been able to pick the same players week in, week out and get some consistancy

Would love to see Sagna, Kos, Vermaelen, Gibbs play together for a virtually a whole season

To be fair they were all over the place before he went off.

yeah i know, i don't know the stats, but how many games have they played this season together and the same with the midfield, Wenger keeps chopping and changing, the only player who has been consistent has been RVP and he's played virtually every game

also Arteta had been a regular, and for all the criticism he has received from some quarter's he was 'consistent' and reliable, getting better as the season went on...we have missed him.

[Rosie_titters]

saw a stat on sky, saying when Sagna went off injured - that it was the 17th time this season that Wenger had to use a different back four,

I think the medical staff and training methods need looking at, Newcastle have had a great season for the fact they have been able to pick the same players week in, week out and get some consistancy

Would love to see Sagna, Kos, Vermaelen, Gibbs play together for a virtually a whole season

To be fair they were all over the place before he went off.

yeah i know, i don't know the stats, but how many games have they played this season together and the same with the midfield, Wenger keeps chopping and changing, the only player who has been consistent has been RVP and he's played virtually every game

also Arteta had been a regular, and for all the criticism he has received from some quarter's he was 'consistent' and reliable, getting better as the season went on...we have missed him.

I agree with that, Arteta has been a big miss, how the fuck can our players keep getting so many injuries