Arsene Knows

[frankbutcher]

It's a well trotted out phrase. As like most things in life, the truth behind this statement is that he knows some things but not others. So what do you think Mr Wenger's strengths and weaknesses are?

Strengths

- Un-polished gems are developed after being sourced from the back of beyond.
- Backs his players to the hilt and tends to have a pretty good team morale.
- Intelligent and well respected in the game.
- Great relationship with the press on the whole.
- Plays football the way is should be played (offensively)

Weaknesses

- Defensive organisation apppears non-existent.
- Tacticallly rigid
- Substitutions appear pre-planned and he very rarely changes a game with any kind of genius.
- Pays big wages before players have earned it.
- Moaning at refs and oppo managers (general game management)

Over to you.......

[SWLGooner]

I'd add poor motivational skills and sheer stubbornness and bloody-mindedness to the weaknesses.

He is also a terrible loser, and that lack of class reflects back on the club.

[StuartL]

Weakness'

- refuses to adopt formation or gameplan due to opposition, no attempt to counteract their strengths.
- by always playing the same system, we are easy to predict and therefore nullify.
- accepts no blame for mistakes made by himself, or publicly to the players, therefore whitewashing them and deeming them acceptable.
- perseveres with mediocre players for years insisting that they will come good and be world beaters - eboue, denilson, vela, bendtner, almunia, fabianski, djourou.
- puts more emphasis on possesion than actually attacking with pace or directness.
- plays players out of position, Bendtner wing, Eboue left midfield,
- is deluded about how good the team are - "1 or 2 percent away",
- obsessed with getting value for money, unwilling to pay premium for players - Alonso, etc.

Strengths

Has a similar name to our once great club.
Speaks several languages, fluent bullshit.

[phil_mitchell]

both a strength and a weakness is his apparant determination to 'win' with integrity. no diving, no mass suronding of refs, no calling for other players to be booked, no winding the opposition up, no rolling around on the deck a-la drogba then looking at the ref out of one eye, no blatant time wasitng, no going down cheapley, no appealing blatant decisions that have gone against us. as i have said before if you aint doing all of the above then you aint trying to win....PS get well soon sanga

[frankbutcher]

both a strength and a weakness is his apparant determination to 'win' with integrity. no diving, no mass suronding of refs, no calling for other players to be booked, no winding the opposition up, no rolling around on the deck a-la drogba then looking at the ref out of one eye, no blatant time wasitng, no going down cheapley, no appealing blatant decisions that have gone against us. as i have said before if you aint doing all of the above then you aint trying to win....PS get well soon sanga

How is the guy from Cool Runnings?

[I Hate Hleb]

It's a well trotted out phrase. As like most things in life, the truth behind this statement is that he knows some things but not others. So what do you think Mr Wenger's strengths and weaknesses are?

Strengths

- Un-polished gems are developed after being sourced from the back of beyond.......

This is often repeated but I'm not even sure those things are true beyond a couple of cases - unless we consider the likes of AC Milan, Juventus, Marseille and Barcelona backwaters.

- Backs his players to the hilt and tends to have a pretty good team morale. ......

Again, something I'm not sure that is totally correct - otherwise why did we get the players saying that team spirit was better after Henry left; then again after Adebayor left; then it was supposedly better again when Gallas left; then it was said yet again when Cesc and Nasri went? Seems to me like team spirit and morale at Arsenal is more up and down than Wenger is when watching his 'mentally strong' team capitulate from the bench!!

I'd even say that his relationship with most of the media is one where they are free to take the piss whenever they like safe in the knowledge that unlike most other bosses, they won't get pulled up about it or banned. On the otherhand those writers that do like Wenger won't ask the serious questions (as opposed to piss taking) that really do need asking.

[armchair]

I'd even say that his relationship with most of the media is one where they are free to take the piss whenever they like safe in the knowledge that unlike most other bosses, they won't get pulled up about it or banned. On the otherhand those writers that do like Wenger won't ask the serious questions (as opposed to piss taking) that really do need asking.

Agreed. Wenger is very media savvy, is always open with the media and therefore they like him. Thats why he gets such an easy ride in the press. Could you ever see any other high profile manager getting such an easy ride with the press while failing so miserably for so long as Wenger has?

[Babatunde]

Today's results have proved that Arsene Knows and has a plan.
Like Stoke, it was a "good point" against Norwich. Who else could do his job?

[g88ner]

Like Stoke, it was a "good point" against Norwich. Who else could do his job?

Home defeat to Wigan and draw to Norwich were terrible results.

I still don't think our point at Stoke was a bad one. I think we're a poor side, and Stoke away is difficult for anyone... never mind Ramsey and co.

I find you strange, Baba - on the one hand, you rip us apart for being shit and having a shite manager, yet you seem to be up in arms whenever we drop points.

Surely, if we're as bad as you say we are, a point at Stoke isn't actually that bad a result, is it?

[Rosie_titters]

Strengths - able to convince thousand of gooners, that he is the right man to lead us forward,

weakness - stubborn, and a liar

[QuartzGooner]

Key points already covered, but my main gripe is lack of organisation/team shape which surely has it's roots in the coaching?

I think training has too much emphasis on short passing, not enough on organisation.

[richpye]

both a strength and a weakness is his apparant determination to 'win' with integrity. no diving, no mass suronding of refs, no calling for other players to be booked, no winding the opposition up, no rolling around on the deck a-la drogba then looking at the ref out of one eye, no blatant time wasitng, no going down cheapley, no appealing blatant decisions that have gone against us. as i have said before if you aint doing all of the above then you aint trying to win....PS get well soon sanga

How is the guy from Cool Runnings?

Wasn't that Sanka?

The guy with the egg?

[richpye]

I hat his lack of sportsmanship.

Tell me why Paul Lambert didn't deserve more acknowledgement yesterday? Hardly a warm handshake. Just does my head in that you can't shake a man's hand when you been beaten

[frankbutcher]

both a strength and a weakness is his apparant determination to 'win' with integrity. no diving, no mass suronding of refs, no calling for other players to be booked, no winding the opposition up, no rolling around on the deck a-la drogba then looking at the ref out of one eye, no blatant time wasitng, no going down cheapley, no appealing blatant decisions that have gone against us. as i have said before if you aint doing all of the above then you aint trying to win....PS get well soon sanga

How is the guy from Cool Runnings?

Wasn't that Sanka?

The guy with the egg?

Yes. What a film that was.

[richpye]

both a strength and a weakness is his apparant determination to 'win' with integrity. no diving, no mass suronding of refs, no calling for other players to be booked, no winding the opposition up, no rolling around on the deck a-la drogba then looking at the ref out of one eye, no blatant time wasitng, no going down cheapley, no appealing blatant decisions that have gone against us. as i have said before if you aint doing all of the above then you aint trying to win....PS get well soon sanga

How is the guy from Cool Runnings?

Wasn't that Sanka?

The guy with the egg?

Yes. What a film that was.

Definitely. In my Top 10.
And makes me cry. WTF is that all about?