That must of been a penalty ref?

[stg]

Not if your an Arsenal player....

3 penalty's all away from home

Man U-missed
Villa & Wolves-Scored

mind you could be worse Norwich, qpr, sunderland and wba have only had 2 each

All of which are a long way short of Man U with 11 penalty's this season(4 in the first 19 PL matches and 7 in the last 18)

[arseofacrow]

Not if your an Arsenal player....

3 penalty's all away from home

Man U-missed
Villa & Wolves-Scored

mind you could be worse Norwich, qpr, sunderland and wba have only had 2 each

All of which are a long way short of Man U with 11 penalty's this season(4 in the first 19 PL matches and 7 in the last 18)

It might be because so often in the area we are static, and passing the ball to death - whereas man utd are more direct, attack opponents and force penalties.

Still, it could as you say be a big fat conspiracy against us.

[I Hate Hleb]

And the point of this thread is what - bemoaning the officials and putting the blame on them for our unsuccessful and uninspired season?

[g88ner]

I know there's been a few bad calls from referees, but I'm sure all teams get those, so maybe there's something in our style of play that explains the lack of penalties?

Maybe we don't dive or go to ground easily enough? or get enough players in the box? or maybe we don't dribble enough at pace in the box?

United swarm the penalty area and have always had players who dribble at pace and go down easily... maybe that's where we're missing out?

[Gunnerz4life]

Not if your an Arsenal player....

3 penalty's all away from home

Man U-missed
Villa & Wolves-Scored

mind you could be worse Norwich, qpr, sunderland and wba have only had 2 each

All of which are a long way short of Man U with 11 penalty's this season(4 in the first 19 PL matches and 7 in the last 18)

It might be because so often in the area we are static, and passing the ball to death - whereas man utd are more direct, attack opponents and force penalties.

And we don't have an Ashley Young

[arseofacrow]

I know there's been a few bad calls from referees, but I'm sure all teams get those, so maybe there's something in our style of play that explains the lack of penalties?

Maybe we don't dive or go to ground easily enough? or get enough players in the box? or maybe we don't dribble enough at pace in the box?

United swarm the penalty area and have always had players who dribble at pace and go down easily... maybe that's where we're missing out?

I agree with you and asreofacrow above.

[frankbutcher]

Can we think of any occassions when we were denied penalties?

- Norwich obviously.

[arseofacrow]

Can we think of any occassions when we were denied penalties?

- Norwich obviously.

Is there any point though Frank - cos you'd have to make a list of times when our opponents could have had penalties, something we are much less likely to remem...oh wait:

- Norwich

[g88ner]

I know there's been a few bad calls from referees, but I'm sure all teams get those, so maybe there's something in our style of play that explains the lack of penalties?

Maybe we don't dive or go to ground easily enough? or get enough players in the box? or maybe we don't dribble enough at pace in the box?

United swarm the penalty area and have always had players who dribble at pace and go down easily... maybe that's where we're missing out?

I agree with you and asreofacrow above.

Yeah, just read your post - it's better than mine

[mikeyb772001]

I had a conversation about this on fb on Sunday


Is it any wonder we don’t get pens when wenger talks to the officials the way he does. His name is like mud and he rude and disrespectful towards all of them

Fergie gets decisions because he knows when to put on the charm when needed. Wenger has also caused the media rot himself by the way he talks to people.

[frankbutcher]

Can we think of any occassions when we were denied penalties?

- Norwich obviously.

Is there any point though Frank - cos you'd have to make a list of times when our opponents could have had penalties, something we are much less likely to remem...oh wait:

- Norwich

I don't think there is any point because I don't think we've been denied any obvious penalties. Only VP has been in the box in most games, so that limits the chances already.

[StuartL]

I had a conversation about this on fb on Sunday


Is it any wonder we don’t get pens when wenger talks to the officials the way he does. His name is like mud and he rude and disrespectful towards all of them

Fergie gets decisions because he knows when to put on the charm when needed. Wenger has also caused the media rot himself by the way he talks to people.

And that is also why we are not liked / respected by other managers / fans due to his moaning, whinging, unable to shake hands when we lose - it all works against us.

I don't care if other fans don't like us - but it should be due to us winning things not because we havea bitter manager who cannot give an ounce of credit to the opposition, it just makes them more determined to beat / kick us.