THE BOARD - Kroenke, Usmanov and Finance

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highburyJD wrote:not quite
bit more oldIslingtonGreenian than Old Etonian
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highburyJD wrote:
StuartL wrote:and considerably richer than you (with apologies to harry enfield)
and yet I've contributed exponentially more money to the Arsenal's coffers
Jabba is scum

don't want his sort near our club

And we have all contributed expotentially more than kroenke, phw or any of the others c**ts on the board - all kroenke did was line the pockets of the likes of phw who inherited every share he owned and never put a penny into the club :roll: :evil:

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Fiszman put a fair chunk in
RIP

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highburyJD wrote:Fiszman put a fair chunk in
RIP
and upon sale of shares a fair chunk was taken out.

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You don't understand how shares work.

As it happens it's not the share capital I'm referencing anyway. Tony Adams in his biography talks about the big 90s wage restructuring backed and guaranteed by Fiszman. As were the Ashton Grove and Wembley investigations.

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highburyJD wrote:You don't understand how shares work.

As it happens it's not the share capital I'm referencing anyway. Tony Adams in his biography talks about the big 90s wage restructuring backed and guaranteed by Fiszman. As were the Ashton Grove and Wembley investigations.
You don't understand how football works...but you don't see me giving you shit about it.

Oh, hang on..I do. Sorry.

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Football is a game of opinions. Investment is a game of rules.

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highburyJD wrote:You don't understand how shares work.

As it happens it's not the share capital I'm referencing anyway. Tony Adams in his biography talks about the big 90s wage restructuring backed and guaranteed by Fiszman. As were the Ashton Grove and Wembley investigations.

But I dont see how that cost fizsman any dough :? Putting up a guarantee only means that you will settle the debt if things go tits up and as we all know that never happened so it cost fizsman the square root of fcuk all :x

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augie wrote:
highburyJD wrote:You don't understand how shares work.

As it happens it's not the share capital I'm referencing anyway. Tony Adams in his biography talks about the big 90s wage restructuring backed and guaranteed by Fiszman. As were the Ashton Grove and Wembley investigations.

But I dont see how that cost fizsman any dough :? Putting up a guarantee only means that you will settle the debt if things go tits up and as we all know that never happened so it cost fizsman the square root of fcuk all :x
We know that now.... but there's plenty of clubs were things have gone tits up, so you have to respect someone taking the risk to further the club.

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SinghaSong wrote:
augie wrote:
highburyJD wrote:You don't understand how shares work.

As it happens it's not the share capital I'm referencing anyway. Tony Adams in his biography talks about the big 90s wage restructuring backed and guaranteed by Fiszman. As were the Ashton Grove and Wembley investigations.

But I dont see how that cost fizsman any dough :? Putting up a guarantee only means that you will settle the debt if things go tits up and as we all know that never happened so it cost fizsman the square root of fcuk all :x
We know that now.... but there's plenty of clubs were things have gone tits up, so you have to respect someone taking the risk to further the club.
Eh?? The risk he took was 4 years after we'd won the League and 2 years after we'd won the domestic cup double and a year after we'd won the CWC and in the same year we'd been beaten in the CWC Final. We had Premier League TV money coming in and didn't owe any money to the Bank barring a modest overdraft. A MASSIVE RISK. :roll:

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Usmanov now owns 10% of Facebook and is set to go from being worth £12b to £18b.

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highburyJD wrote:Football is a game of opinions. Investment is a game of rules.
Investment isn't a game, mate.

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With the light blue of Citeh and their money having just finished their Premiership celebrations and the dark blue of Chelski preparing for a weekend in Munich i stand by my original posting and comments but it has been interesting to see the swing in opinion.

pre Kroenke EVERYONE was ante Usmanov but now it seems quite split in who wants what.

Usmanov is the Summer signing we most need - we will NEVER beat them with our model so lets join them and get behind Usmanov to take us back up another notch and have a chance of real silverware.

The world has changed, technology has changed and football has certainly changed and as i said originally i believe he will try his damndest to make a move to buy out the Yanker so lets see what unfolds

1989-he has always owned 10% of Facebook , said that in first posting- he might be ugly but he is no mug

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Football has changed and having money and more importantly spending it is what gives you the best chance of trophies.

Move with the times or get left behind.

Usmanov in
Kroenke out

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georgeknows89 wrote:With the light blue of Citeh and their money having just finished their Premiership celebrations and the dark blue of Chelski preparing for a weekend in Munich i stand by my original posting and comments but it has been interesting to see the swing in opinion.

pre Kroenke EVERYONE was ante Usmanov but now it seems quite split in who wants what.

Usmanov is the Summer signing we most need - we will NEVER beat them with our model so lets join them and get behind Usmanov to take us back up another notch and have a chance of real silverware.

The world has changed, technology has changed and football has certainly changed and as i said originally i believe he will try his damndest to make a move to buy out the Yanker so lets see what unfolds

1989-he has always owned 10% of Facebook , said that in first posting- he might be ugly but he is no mug


Beg to differ mate - there was a few of us on here that were not anti usmanov at all but I am even more convinced now than I was then that he is the much better option than the yank

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