yes but wenger finished in top four every one of those seasons. he is a far superior manager, even during his senile daysBabatunde wrote:Dalglish wins a trophy and reaches a cup final and gets sacked.
Le Clown wins nothing in 7 years and is safe!
The AKBs claim "we cannot compete" with cash rich teams, yet when it's pointed out that Pool spent 100 mil and we finished ahead of them, the position changes
So is money a guarantee of success or not?
As I've said a million times, any serious club would have sacked Wenger as far back as 2008. When he bottled a league title that was ours to lose.
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It does when you buy Aguero and not carroll.Babatunde wrote:Dalglish wins a trophy and reaches a cup final and gets sacked.
Le Clown wins nothing in 7 years and is safe!
The AKBs claim "we cannot compete" with cash rich teams, yet when it's pointed out that Pool spent 100 mil and we finished ahead of them, the position changes
So is money a guarantee of success or not?
As I've said a million times, any serious club would have sacked Wenger as far back as 2008. When he bottled a league title that was ours to lose.
It does when you buy Silva and not Downing and Henderson.
Any management team that spends 100M on the players Liverpool did are not fit for purpose.
Martinez is flavour of the month. He probably is a good manager, but Liverpool is a serious job. The new manager is going to have to have a good scout network, and identify real quality. Not the moneyball b8llocks like commolli did.
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Pity he got sacked was hoping he would make a 40m bid for theo this season ah well never mind.
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A couple of my workers are pool fans and they said that rafa's name has been floated around already as hes been spotted in the area even though as i pointed out he still owns a house in scouseland.
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It will be a Moneyball manager. It's going to be Martinez.
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May be Harry.frankbutcher wrote:It will be a Moneyball manager. It's going to be Martinez.
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NO WAY. FSG will appoint a Moneyball-style manager. They are businessmen, not sports fans.Rohan wrote:May be Harry.frankbutcher wrote:It will be a Moneyball manager. It's going to be Martinez.
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No surprise there.
His performance in the League was abysmal and he dragged the club thru the mud with his handling of the Suarez affair.
Just found out that in Uruguay "you're fired" means "you've done a good job"
His performance in the League was abysmal and he dragged the club thru the mud with his handling of the Suarez affair.
Just found out that in Uruguay "you're fired" means "you've done a good job"

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Babatunde wrote: The AKBs claim "we cannot compete" with cash rich teams, yet when it's pointed out that Pool spent 100 mil and we finished ahead of them, the position changes


Yeah, but there's a HUGE difference between Liverpool incompetently wasting £100m on Carroll, Downing, Adam and Henderson to that of Citeh buying real quality in Silva, Nasri, Yaya, Aguero, Tevez, Dzeko, etc....
It's how the money is spent.
If it's spent competently like when Abramovich forked out £millions on Drogba, Robben, Essien, Carvalho, etc. or when Real Madrid bought Ronaldo & co. then it's going to be difficult to keep up unless we keep pulling rabbits out of hats or completely change our strategy.
So yes - we CAN compete with rich teams if their money is spent incompetently like Liverpool did, Baba. But if it's spent well, then it's a different matter.
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IMO we could cut £40m out of our wage bill just by getting rid of shit. That would buy a new world class player every season. It is doable on our current business model. Remember why we moved to the Emirates... to spend on players. Now we can't compete with City and Madrid etc, but we can still buy better players than Park and Chamakh.g88ner wrote:Babatunde wrote: The AKBs claim "we cannot compete" with cash rich teams, yet when it's pointed out that Pool spent 100 mil and we finished ahead of them, the position changes![]()
Yeah, but there's a HUGE difference between Liverpool incompetently wasting £100m on Carroll, Downing, Adam and Henderson to that of Citeh buying real quality in Silva, Nasri, Yaya, Aguero, Tevez, Dzeko, etc....
It's how the money is spent.
If it's spent competently like when Abramovich forked out £millions on Drogba, Robben, Essien, Carvalho, etc. or when Real Madrid bought Ronaldo & co. then it's going to be difficult to keep up unless we keep pulling rabbits out of hats or completely change our strategy.
So yes - we CAN compete with rich teams if their money is spent incompetently like Liverpool did, Baba. But if it's spent well, then it's a different matter.

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Couldn't agree more. We've made a complete pigs ear out of things!frankbutcher wrote: IMO we could cut £40m out of our wage bill just by getting rid of shit. That would buy a new world class player every season. It is doable on our current business model. Remember why we moved to the Emirates... to spend on players. Now we can't compete with City and Madrid etc, but we can still buy better players than Park and Chamakh.
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Bendtner - £2.5m pag88ner wrote:Couldn't agree more. We've made a complete pigs ear out of things!frankbutcher wrote: IMO we could cut £40m out of our wage bill just by getting rid of shit. That would buy a new world class player every season. It is doable on our current business model. Remember why we moved to the Emirates... to spend on players. Now we can't compete with City and Madrid etc, but we can still buy better players than Park and Chamakh.
Denilson - £2.5m pa
Diaby - £3m pa
Vela - £1m pa
Almunia - £3m pa
Chamakh - £3m pa
Park - £2m pa
Gervinho - £3m pa
Gazidis - £1m pa (NO BONUS)
Squillaci - £3m pa
Djourou - £2m pa
Fabianski - £1m pa
That's £27m pa for starters...
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Really? There's a point in there somewhere but...g88ner wrote:Babatunde wrote: The AKBs claim "we cannot compete" with cash rich teams, yet when it's pointed out that Pool spent 100 mil and we finished ahead of them, the position changes![]()
Yeah, but there's a HUGE difference between Liverpool incompetently wasting £100m on Carroll, Downing, Adam and Henderson to that of Citeh buying real quality in Silva, Nasri, Yaya, Aguero, Tevez, Dzeko, etc....
It's how the money is spent.
If it's spent competently like when Abramovich forked out £millions on Drogba, Robben, Essien, Carvalho, etc. or when Real Madrid bought Ronaldo & co. then it's going to be difficult to keep up unless we keep pulling rabbits out of hats or completely change our strategy.
So yes - we CAN compete with rich teams if their money is spent incompetently like Liverpool did, Baba. But if it's spent well, then it's a different matter.
Considering the cash Chelski have spent on Mata, Torres, Ramires, Cahill etc...you still haven't explained how Arsenal are ahead of them?

I've personally had enough of hearing Arsenal fans bitching about money.
I'm sick if hearing what we "cannot" do.
That's bullshit Gazidis feeds y'all.
How rich is Kroenke?
How rich is Usmanov?
What's our wage bill again?
What's Wenger salary?

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Just been in contact with my source in Liverpool and apparently Martinez is set to be offered the job although no one wants him!
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Red Member wrote:so they won the Carling Cup
reached the FA Cup final
have got the England captain
loads of others in the England squad
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good thing Wenger doesnt work there, he wouldnt have lasted until September this season
Which no ther team took seriously (as European commitments outweigh by far - Victims had no euro to bother about)
Which goes to show just how piss poor the England team / squad currently is.