CL Final - Bayern or Chavs?

[Red Member]

maybe Wilshere is more intelligent than we give him credit for and is making sure he doesnt fall out with any of the top teams. Is this part of a long term exit strategy?

[Red Member]

I just ventured onto a Chelsea forum to see how their gloating was going.
Their fans really are truly awful. This one in particular is almost unbelievable. It makes you fear what supporters are becoming actually.

"can only admit that I have been a Chelsea fan for exactly 4 years now and until 2 days ago the reason for becoming a Chelsea fan always made who I was explaining it to raise an eyebrow. I turned on the 2008 Champions League final between our beloved and ManU to watch what I heard was a big game and the moment that I decided I was going to be a Chelsea fan until die was after I saw John Terry slip, the level of heartache I felt for a player I never heard of before was incredible and thus kick-started my deep passion for the Blues.

Now getting to the topic at hand, where does Chelsea rank as a club? Chelsea is a club on the rise on the world stage and with the Champions League win we will only get bigger. Chelsea won the Champions League in was is already called a "Classic" and they did it by being the best team. The win against Barcelona alone is a huge step forward and a huge step away from people being able to say we buy our wins. Not a person on earth can create a valid argument against the passion, determination, and teamwork Chelsea has been putting forth since RDM took over and that is what (to me anyways) wins neutral fans to the Blue side. If nothing crazy happens internally over the next 5 years (please avoid becoming the next Leeds), then players are going to make CFC their dream destination, Battersea Station will be the premier stadium in the world, and the world should be very well on the way to being painted blue."

[skizz_b]

cant bring myself to watch it but on reflection could be worse

[HendrixFreire]

omfg

my eyes hurt when i see that star above chavs crest

[A dallying Gus Caesar]

Chelsea were incredibly lucky, but we would never have come through these tests as we are weak.

Our team cannot defend and does not have the character that winners such as Ashley Cole have in abundance.

We're on the road to nowhere!!!!

[SteveO 35]

STEP FORWARD THE 17

I would like all 17 non Arsenal fans that voted for the Chelsea win to step forward and identify themselves, so that the rest of us can completely disregard anything they utter on any Arsenal related matters going forward. I'm serious - I can not engage with anyone who cheered on Captain Chav, Cashley Hole and all the others on Saturday - it is WUMing of the highest order and those involved should be thrown off the site in my opinion

Now, clearly the exception to the rule is Tomas and any of our other German friends because they voted as they should do. If a Dortmund fan site had a similar poll set-up and so called Dortmund fans had voted for Bayern then I would expect the same reaction from them.

3 of the voters - gunner_ace, SurreyGooner and bunch have identified themselves - anyone else care to step forward and join the club of 17

[frankbutcher]

STEP FORWARD THE 17

I would like all 17 non Arsenal fans that voted for the Chelsea win to step forward and identify themselves, so that the rest of us can completely disregard anything they utter on any Arsenal related matters going forward. I'm serious - I can not engage with anyone who cheered on Captain Chav, Cashley Hole and all the others on Saturday - it is WUMing of the highest order and those involved should be thrown off the site in my opinion

Now, clearly the exception to the rule is Tomas and any of our other German friends because they voted as they should do. If a Dortmund fan site had a similar poll set-up and so called Dortmund fans had voted for Bayern then I would expect the same reaction from them.

3 of the voters - gunner_ace, SurreyGooner and bunch have identified themselves - anyone else care to step forward and join the club of 17

Gunnersaurus was one of them.

[SteveO 35]

STEP FORWARD THE 17

I would like all 17 non Arsenal fans that voted for the Chelsea win to step forward and identify themselves, so that the rest of us can completely disregard anything they utter on any Arsenal related matters going forward. I'm serious - I can not engage with anyone who cheered on Captain Chav, Cashley Hole and all the others on Saturday - it is WUMing of the highest order and those involved should be thrown off the site in my opinion

Now, clearly the exception to the rule is Tomas and any of our other German friends because they voted as they should do. If a Dortmund fan site had a similar poll set-up and so called Dortmund fans had voted for Bayern then I would expect the same reaction from them.

3 of the voters - gunner_ace, SurreyGooner and bunch have identified themselves - anyone else care to step forward and join the club of 17

Gunnersaurus was one of them.

Absolutely disgraceful

[gunner_ace]

I hope the 18% that voted for Chelsea have finished their celebrations and hopefully have now woken up with a hangover and into the beginning of the new world where the Chavs have bragging rights over us indefinitely.

When you're stuck in the away corner at Stamford Bridge with 30000 odd mocking and laughing and singing "Have You Won the European Cup", you can all sit there with a nice warm glow inside knowing that you cheered for them in 2012 "because you're 100% English" and it was oh so funny that Spurs missed out on qualifying for the Champions League (as they have done every year bar one for the last half a century anyway)

I'm sure I spotted some of the folk on here on the Sky Sports pictures at the bus parade yesterday

Embarassing doesnt come close to describing it does it steve o ? Maybe easy for me to say that cos I am Irish but I do not know how any self respecting Gooner could support a club where pikey terry and lumpolard are the signiture players Not proper Gooners as far as I am concerned

Augie, I am 100% English mate but there has never been an easier decision for me. I think the people that voted for Chelsea are clearly in the category of people that would rather Ing-er-lund won the World Cup than Arsenal win the CL - the sort of people you talk to in the office that once watched Arsenal in 1986 but think it would be 'great for the country' if England won

Pathetic doesn't even come close to describing it

Seeing Terry with a massive smile lifting that cup made me feel ill on Saturday anyone who wanted them to win cant be a Gooner surely??? I forced myself to watch the lifting of the trophy after they beat Bayern even though i wanted to turn the TV off

Err, but I fink da arg-oo-munt is sumfink like dis. They is one undred pur sent Ing-lish, so faack dem Gurmuns innit.

The 18% have already ordered their new Hackett polo shirts and are getting ready to stand shoulder to shoulder with their Chelsea and West Ham mates outside the Globe on Baker St giving it large to the tourists during the Euros.

People talk about what makes a 'real fan' - well 18% of the voters on here should free up some space in the stadium next season and start drinking on Fulham Broadway next year

What?? Ive read some drivel on this forum before, but this extracts the urine.

So according to Steve O I can’t be an England fan and an Arsenal fan? For 38 games in the season chelski (or any other EPL team) are the enemy, but as ive said before on this thread, how can wanting English team to beat a German one in a European cup final be considered some sort of Arsenal Treason? You mention your 100% English and you still wanted Chelski to lose, which is fair enough, but how can you say im pathetic or less or an Arsenal fan for wanting them to win it on the night? Ill always back an English team (bar the spuds) on the European battlefield, and I think you’ll find most fans in other countries will support their own also.

To demonstrate my viewpoint; it happens that I ended up watching the game in some random pub in Shropshire (don’t ask) and their was this one old boy sat in the corner who kept cheering for Munich. The entire pub were pantomime booing this old boy and towards the end it did get a bit nasty towards him, which was uncalled for, but that is a different matter anyway. My point is that their were Wolves, Villa, Manure, Liverpool, Stoke and even a random Leyton Orient fan in this pub and they were all backing the English team. In fact when it went to penalties a few sweaty socks even walked in the bar who were studying at the nearby colleague, and even they were cheering for Chelski, because they said it was against Ze Germans, and that always comes before home national rivalries.

It was quite a surreal moment at the final whistle when the entire pub broke out in the dambusters theme after, but it just shows you how this game was perceived by people. It was England V Germany and for 120 minutes your club allegiances were put to one side.

You can say whatever you want about me being a knuckle dragging, Henry Lloyd wearing, chav, in-gur-land fan all you want, but at the end of the day that’s just how me and the 18% who ticked Chelski think. You seem to know quite a bit about their hang-outs anyway.

So after the final whistle I put my Arsenal cap straight back on and pondered what this Chelski win meant to us, and like someone else mentioned here I think it can be a positive thing for Arsenal. No longer can he hide in the giant shadow that ‘No London team has ever won it’ therefore we can all wallow in collective failure with the blue half of London. Chelski have gone and done it. It is irrelevant to say that they have no history, crap support or have spent £1 zillion to win it, the fact is they have won it and they have set the benchmark for Arsenal to aspire to.

We need to go into the 12/13 competition with the firm belief that we can and will win it. Our team is better then Chelskis, and if we put into place the committed performances and desire to win it that their players have shown, then I am 100% confident we would not be rolling over and going down 0-4 to Milan at the San Siro again.

We are The Arsenal, our fans are the greatest in the land, and the players need to break their backs next season putting in the same effort that this great clubs fans do. And if like Steve O you are sat their with sour grapes because ‘boo hoo the naughty Chelski team won it before us no fair’ then go and pick up your toys and follow a more gentile sport like croquet or something. I for one will be giving it plenty at the bridge when they start that European chant, its what footballs all about.

For the record I want Arsenal to win the CL AND for England to win the WC Steve O. I know this doesn’t fit into your absurd model but their you go.

[frankbutcher]

Disgraceful stuff. I don't give a hoot about Orient, Wolves, Liverpool or Manc fans. Chelsea are our rivals and you don't want any of your rivals to win 'ol Big Ears. Spurs in a Champions League qualifier was the lesser of two evils. As for supporting a British team. Don't make me laugh. They're about as British as Wenger. As for "a pub in Shropshire". I'd have liked to see you cheering on John and F'***** in a pub on Holloway Road on Saturday night. You'd be enjoying your grub through a straw.

[SteveO 35]

To demonstrate my viewpoint; it happens that I ended up watching the game in some random pub in Shropshire (don’t ask) and their was this one old boy sat in the corner who kept cheering for Munich. The entire pub were pantomime booing this old boy and towards the end it did get a bit nasty towards him, which was uncalled for, but that is a different matter anyway. My point is that their were Wolves, Villa, Manure, Liverpool, Stoke and even a random Leyton Orient fan in this pub and they were all backing the English team. In fact when it went to penalties a few sweaty socks even walked in the bar who were studying at the nearby colleague, and even they were cheering for Chelski, because they said it was against Ze Germans, and that always comes before home national rivalries.

It was quite a surreal moment at the final whistle when the entire pub broke out in the dambusters theme after, but it just shows you how this game was perceived by people. It was England V Germany and for 120 minutes your club allegiances were put to one side.

For the record I want Arsenal to win the CL AND for England to win the WC Steve O. I know this doesn’t fit into your absurd model but their you go.

I think the parts of your response highlighted above tell us all we need to know thanks. So the fact that Wolves, Villa, Utd and Liverpool fans were cheering for Chelsea (not to mention the mighty Leyton Orient - clearly a major rival of Chelsea) proves your point.....doh. Do you think Wolves fans would have been cheering if it was West Brom, or the Villa fans if it was Birmingham City, or Liverpool for United (or vice versa). Last time I looked Chelsea were one of OUR main rivals - not those fucking clubs. When Fulham reached the Europa League final I wanted them to win, and when any non-rival of ours does the same I'll happily cheer for them......but cheering for Chelsea as an Arsenal fan doesn't stack up pal

The Dambusters theme - class. Was there a nice chorus of "There were 10 German bombers" afterwards as well

As for the last point, perhaps its escaped you but when England play, it will be 11 English players wearing an England badge on their shirts and representing the nation. Not a collection of thrown together mercenary pricks from all corners of the globe, that happen to be playing for an English team we hate just because they have stumbled upon a non-English owner with more money than sense, who probably need someone to tell him where Chelsea actually was 10 years ago. Of course I will be cheering on England - hardly the fucking same as cheering for Chelsea is it

[augie]

Gunner ace, I (like many other Gooners I suspect) feel that we are miles away from winning the champs league and will never win it under this manager anyway (tactically an embarassment) BUT I hoped that the other london clubs would continue to fail in it as well until such time as we got our house in order and rightfully stepped up as londons number 1 Whatever happens now we will always get that statistic thrown at us by those chav c**ts and if we thought that the tripe spewed from villa fans was bad it aint nothing compared to the crap we gonna get from the chelski scum No self respecting Gooner should want that to happen

[I Hate Hleb]

omfg

my eyes hurt when i see that star above chavs crest

Shit - I'd forgotten about that. As if them winning the Champion's League (and thus also having the opportunity to win the European Super Cup and then The World club championship, with all the extra sponsorship and new fans that will gain them) before us isn't bad enough, we're going to have to put up with seeing the CL Winners star on their shirt every single time they play and with it will come the reminder that they've done something we haven't!!

[gunner_ace]

I just don’t see it like any of you. This can only be a good thing for Arsenal to push on.

The thing is Chelski have done it now with a CARETAKER manager. In my eyes Wenger now has nowhere to hide, this great club is well overdue a European Cup (proper) glory. I think it will act as a catalyst for Arsenal to push on and win it. I for one have had the feeling every year since 08 have just thought we were going through the motions in this competition, casing our fat pay offs from the competition and haven’t seen any real desire from any of the players to perform.

Like I said now that Chelski have won it now and now they are #1, top dogs, cream of the crop etc etc in Europe. Next season has to all be about Wenger not accepting this and doing everything humanly possible using ALL of the financial means available to him to assemble a squad capable of dismantling Chelskis legacy double quick time.

All of the anger im reading here for Chelski winning it will undoubtedly manifest itself onto the terraces next season, and All I can say is that is a good thing as it means the team should be rightly afraid of a defeat in Europe now.

To sort of paraphrase from the great manager of Europe himself Brian Clough;

Chelski have won the competition now, so next year Arsenal have to go and win it better.

[HendrixFreire]

omfg

my eyes hurt when i see that star above chavs crest

Shit - I'd forgotten about that. As if them winning the Champion's League (and thus also having the opportunity to win the European Super Cup and then The World club championship, with all the extra sponsorship and new fans that will gain them) before us isn't bad enough, we're going to have to put up with seeing the CL Winners star on their shirt every single time they play and with it will come the reminder that they've done something we haven't!!

that's the point.
now everytime you open your Sun , having your cup of tea/coffee, you'll see that bloody star & get angry.
it will result us a cancer