what does it take to make people happy?

[franksav63]

Gervinho will step up this season, 4 goals and 8 assists isn't bad for a guy who came from the French league although i do agree it could have been alot more having looked at some of the chances he missed over the course of the season (the one against Tottenham is unforgivable!!) Had he played with his boots on the right feet he could actually have been closer to 10 goals, so there is still a lot more to come from him this coming season.

Trust in the forehead

4 goals is a pathetic return , he is already one useless wanker and another season of watching his forehead, which puts Lescott's in the shade in more ways than one, isn't going to change that...

[BournemouthRED]

Gervinho will step up this season, 4 goals and 8 assists isn't bad for a guy who came from the French league although i do agree it could have been alot more having looked at some of the chances he missed over the course of the season (the one against Tottenham is unforgivable!!) Had he played with his boots on the right feet he could actually have been closer to 10 goals, so there is still a lot more to come from him this coming season.

Trust in the forehead

4 goals is a pathetic return , he is already one useless wanker and another season of watching his forehead, which puts Lescott's in the shade in more ways than one, isn't going to change that...

All he has to do is have 5 good games next season and he will have inproved! What a shite first season, surely he can't be any worse this year?'

[franksav63]

Gervinho will step up this season, 4 goals and 8 assists isn't bad for a guy who came from the French league although i do agree it could have been alot more having looked at some of the chances he missed over the course of the season (the one against Tottenham is unforgivable!!) Had he played with his boots on the right feet he could actually have been closer to 10 goals, so there is still a lot more to come from him this coming season.

Trust in the forehead

4 goals is a pathetic return , he is already one useless wanker and another season of watching his forehead, which puts Lescott's in the shade in more ways than one, isn't going to change that...

All he has to do is have 5 good games next season and he will have inproved! What a shite first season, surely he can't be any worse this year?'

Hmmm... what's to say that he still isn't suffering from his penalty miss in the ANC...

[highburyJD]

No King Henry vs Leeds????

I went nuts, both me and the baby ended up crying
but was in a hotel in Montevideo...
not quite the same as being with other Gooners
rictus grin, tear filled eyes, trying to explain how amazing it was to the wife - thats nice dear

[Red Member]

why is there always this deluded optimism in pre season and so much negativity during the season?

it is the opposite with me. this time of year you realise how crap a team Arsenal actually have

[highburyJD]

er
what deluded optimism...

[Number 5]

honesty is unrealistic, means giving up a competitive advantage

You mean the competetive advantage of the club over its members...

Agree with LeGinge...but I never had any realisitic expectation of anything else. I am happy in my knowledge that the players don't love the club (and why should they?), that the manager and board may have other agendas than what appears in public, that the support are mainly apathetic and buy the club's party line, and that anyone who comes into contact with Arsenal are now a customer to be bled dry rather than a fan of a football team.

I fucking hate Arsenal at the moment. But they're still a little bit like that teacher you had a school that you really really wanted to fuck.

She's probably about 55 now, seen much better days, titties down by her knees and the like.

But you still would wouldn't you? If she gave you the come on.

Just the once like. And then you'd feel dirty all over.

Well that's how Arsenal make me feel these days.

Good for a few minutes, then dirty all over.

A good analogy 5, although probably substitute 55 for 75, seen much better days for at the end of her days, and titties down by her knees for respiratory assistance.

and yes.....

I think with your one, it would most definitely have to be a two-se up.

[DB10GOONER]

To answer the OP;

Watching in my penthouse suite in Vegas as Arsenal win the CL, completing a historic Quadruple, whilst Manure, the Chavs and the scum get relegated, surrounded by the $1 million I just won, whilst 4 bisexual (FEMALE, relax BG! ) stunners lez the sweet fucking bejaysus out of each other and then present themselves to me for a good old coke-fuelled suck and fuckfest. This. This would make me happy. Very happy.

[SWLGooner]

Song is another type of DM, I think Wenger wants the ball closed fast by our front 4/5 and our DM to be Xabi Alonso-esque (making Arteta our Bousquets - 2 semi DM's)
of course playing like this you are most likely to be punished
a) losing the ball in the transition from defence to attack
b) when your DM is exposed in 'open water' on the counter attack
It's a calculated gamble. After games, especially on here, losing the ball 'early' in a transition is something Song get's hammered for. IMO the nature of our play means Song has to hold the ball and turn in sometimes dangerous places because of his great strength I actually see this part of his game as an asset (aware that may irritate some on here - my opinion is pretty much the opposite of the consensus on this). When we've had Cesc, Wilshere or (whisper it) Denilson good early options are almost always on. When Arteta was missing Song had some of his weakest games. Our wide players need to improve in being available - if both Gervinho and Walcott only look for balls in behind (as was sometimes the case) you vacate the midfield and it's easy to cut out your options - not the fault of the exposed DM

Sorry, I absolutely cannot agree with that! It’s everyone else’s fault that Song makes mistakes??!! Are you serious? “Our wide players need to improve in being available”? Song’s primary job is not to be playing balls to the wide players, that is incidental, his primary role is to disrupt oppo attacks, give cover to the CH’s and distribute the ball simply and effectively to more attacking central midfielders or strikers that have dropped deep – this is why Roy The Crunt Keane was so effective; he knew his limits, and played to his strengths. Keane was never afraid to play a simple pass to an open defender if he was getting closed down and no immediate option was available in midfield.

Song loses the ball when under no pressure, because HE decides to take his time and thus allows the oppo to close him because HE thinks in his own little mind that he has the close control to turn away and step around oppo players.
He also loses the ball in most transitions of play, not just early on. His “great strength”, as you call it, is basically bulk that is mostly immobile, thus he tends to lean in and foul oppo players rather than hold them off. His lack of mobility is exposed when he steps up and we are hit on the counter. How many times do we need to see him standing square-on at the half way line as an oppo striker drops the shoulder and sprints past him, leaving Song completing his oil tanker-like turning circle (usually completed just in time to watch the oppo striker run back past him celebrating)?
His passing is poor, his positioning is poor, his pace is non-existent, his speed of thought is poor, his technical skill is poor. At his best he is average and average is not good enough at that level.

Earlier in this thread JD you mention Song’s stats. I am so sick of shooting down the stats defence on here it is unbelievable. In football stats tell you NOTHING about quality or the overall effect on a team. If Song’s post match stats say he has completed 75% of attempted passes, stat fans wet themselves. BUT those stats do not give a qualitative view - only a quantified result. How many of those passes were fired 5 yards behind a teammate and were considered “completed passes” because said teammate had to scurry back 5 yards and get a foot to the ball? It gets counted as a “completed pass” but that does not take into account that the poor quality pass may have resulted in an attack breaking down or the ball being immediately robbed from said struggling teammate and resulting in a goal, does it? Stats are worthless for determining a player’s quality. It’s no coincidence that Arsene has become more and more obsessed with player stats and has signed so many absolutely shit players in the last 7 years is it.

I firmly believe that we will NEVER win the PL or the CL with Song as first choice DM.

Take a bow. Spot on.

I absolutely despise seeing stats used to quantify footballers. It's not like baseball or cricket, there are far too many externalities and variables to consider to even think of using stats to rate a player.

[brazilianGOONER]

To answer the OP;

Watching in my penthouse suite in Vegas as Arsenal win the CL, completing a historic Quadruple, whilst Manure, the Chavs and the scum get relegated, surrounded by the $1 million I just won, whilst 4 bisexual (FEMALE, relax BG! ) stunners lez the sweet fucking bejaysus out of each other and then present themselves to me for a good old coke-fuelled suck and fuckfest. This. This would make me happy. Very happy.

good post mate, but you forgot the beer. plenty of beer.

[Herd]

To answer the OP;

Watching in my penthouse suite in Vegas as Arsenal win the CL, completing a historic Quadruple, whilst Manure, the Chavs and the scum get relegated, surrounded by the $1 million I just won, whilst 4 bisexual (FEMALE, relax BG! ) stunners lez the sweet fucking bejaysus out of each other and then present themselves to me for a good old coke-fuelled suck and fuckfest. This. This would make me happy. Very happy.

Sooooo 90's DB,and surely u would want to be at the champs league final ?

[DB10GOONER]

To answer the OP;

Watching in my penthouse suite in Vegas as Arsenal win the CL, completing a historic Quadruple, whilst Manure, the Chavs and the scum get relegated, surrounded by the $1 million I just won, whilst 4 bisexual (FEMALE, relax BG! ) stunners lez the sweet fucking bejaysus out of each other and then present themselves to me for a good old coke-fuelled suck and fuckfest. This. This would make me happy. Very happy.

good post mate, but you forgot the beer. plenty of beer.

Note to self; bring beer too.

[DB10GOONER]

To answer the OP;

Watching in my penthouse suite in Vegas as Arsenal win the CL, completing a historic Quadruple, whilst Manure, the Chavs and the scum get relegated, surrounded by the $1 million I just won, whilst 4 bisexual (FEMALE, relax BG! ) stunners lez the sweet fucking bejaysus out of each other and then present themselves to me for a good old coke-fuelled suck and fuckfest. This. This would make me happy. Very happy.

Sooooo 90's DB,and surely u would want to be at the champs league final ?

The 90's were very good to me, Herd. Ok, not quite as good as detailed above, but good all the same.

Note to self; All above to happen week before I attend said CL final.

[supergeorgegraham]

I'm delighted with the signings of Podolski and Giroud,
think most people here can agree on that
(maybe Baborietiya reckons Giroud is rubbish but he's still banned)

I would like to see us ship out Bendtner, Squillaci, Chamakh, Vela and Denilson,
again pretty uncontroversial (unless redmember still has some Denilove?) and pretty likely

Obviously keeping RVP maintains squad strength,
I understand the 'big money for an injury-prone 29 year old?' make a sale arguments
but I now see losing our captain as a real blow, bearing in mind our last few summers
Thinking this view is probably pretty standard

so I wanted us to
1- sign 2 x good strikers. Done
2- ship out dross. Still looks pretty likely
3- keep RVP. Who knows...

I also would like us to sign a midfielder and probably a backup keeper (unless Damian Martinez is wicked...I don't know)

Main midfielder linked has been MVila, I see Coquelin and Frimpong as good prospects
my preference would be an attacking player Goetze, Sahin, Sessegnon...

personally I'm a bit unsure about Santos, who I like and think has good ability but must be consistent
and about Gervinho, who hasn't got near to convincing me and in my mind would be behind Ryo in the pecking order let alone Podolski.
I can take Miquel and Bartley as back up to Verm, Kos, Mertesacker and, in an emergency, Song

so I would be happy with pretty minor tweaks
what would others here want us to do squadwise?

Right I will make this quick. Podolski team got relegated last year !
Giroud has never played at this level !
Santos got dropped from Brazil as he cant defend !
Mertsacker is slow and also dropped from Germany !
Sagna has no cover !
Either Vermaelen or Koscielny will be injured in the season !
Van Persie 31 goals is leaving !
We cant sell our dead wood !
We have no good cover for the goal keeping position !
Walcott is out of contract !
If things move as they are Ox would want out as well as would any player doing really well !

[highburyJD]

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