Adebayor to Spurs

[flash gunner]

I genuinely find it staggering that anyone who regularly watches football would take Giroud over Adebayor?!
There's a reason Bayor made it in top level football much earlier.
I agree that his attitude with us was a joke in his final season. Then again, he had a 30 goal season for us and was considered good enough to play a year under Jose.
I'm sorry but if you asked 100 neutrals who they'd take between Giroud v Bayor it'd be like an African election result.
Bayor is a tool but no way are Giroud, or Podolski for that matter, better players. I can admit that (though I know it's too objective for some to admit to)

Adebayor scored a good few goals for us in 1 season so lets not get carried away here Baba, he's no world beater and in 10 years time will be forgotten by pretty much everyone apart from the people in Togo. Personally i think i would rather have a fully commited Giroud or Podolski than a half arsed Adebayor.

Dont let your hatred of Arsenal and Arsene cloud your mind

So in short, you'd rather have a fully committed player, who might not manage half of Bayor's 30 goal haul; than a 'half arsed' Bayor, who banged in 30 goals in a season is that what you're saying. Oh ok I see. Is that how being a 'real' fan works then?

In which case I'd much rather have a 'fully committed' Andre Santos over a 'half arsed' Ashley Cole, and rather have a 'committed' Gervinho, who actually wants to be at the club, than a 'half arsed' Samir Nasri (half the arsed but four times the talent).

Again stop making stuff up Baba.... Adebayor had 1 good season with us and even then he tailed off from Feb of that season then went on to have a fucking shocker of a season in which he clearly couldnt give a fuck. Now i would rather have Giroud or Podolski compared to that type of wanker playing for my team. Cashley always gave 100% even though he's a shit so there is no comparison between him and adebayor and Nasri was a cowardly little *word censored* who had a good 6 months but couldnt perform away from home when the chips were down i dont want players like that either.

Its all about opinions pal (and in your own style) youve said you would rather have players who dont give a shit about playing for us playing ahead of players that do

[Babatunde]

He scored 30 goals once, he was shit after that, you got a short memory Baba.

See your point but answer me this then mascot: who would you rather have here and now.
A fully committed Gervinho, who wants to stay at Arsenal and play? Or Samir Nasri?

Who would you also rather have? A fully committed player who wants to play for the club like Chamakh, desperate to stay with us?
Or Van Payslip?

Be honest go on.

[rigsby]

I think it depends on what you want from players.

Would I want a disinterested player, NO. But I also don't want shit players so I can't really seem them as comparable really Baba. I would rather have someone else than Chamakah or a disinterested RVP.

Thing with Adebayor is he was incredibly frustrating, how many bloody times was he offside?!!

[Gunnersaurus]

He scored 30 goals once, he was shit after that, you got a short memory Baba.

See your point but answer me this then mascot: who would you rather have here and now.
A fully committed Gervinho, who wants to stay at Arsenal and play? Or Samir Nasri?

Who would you also rather have? A fully committed player who wants to play for the club like Chamakh, desperate to stay with us?
Or Van Payslip?

Be honest go on.

Neither Baba, let's not dress things up with Nasri, he wasn't that great and certainly doesn't deserve irreplaceable staus.

He was very much part of a very weak Arsenal team mentally.

If you put a gun to my head i would always take a player that wants to be here as opposed to one that doesn't as we've seen all too often that if they don't want to be here their talent is irrelivant as they juist wont play to it.

Adebayor is a perfect example of that.

[Babatunde]

He scored 30 goals once, he was shit after that, you got a short memory Baba.

See your point but answer me this then mascot: who would you rather have here and now.
A fully committed Gervinho, who wants to stay at Arsenal and play? Or Samir Nasri?

Who would you also rather have? A fully committed player who wants to play for the club like Chamakh, desperate to stay with us?
Or Van Payslip?

Be honest go on.

Neither Baba, let's not dress things up with Nasri, he wasn't that great and certainly doesn't deserve irreplaceable staus.

He was very much part of a very weak Arsenal team mentally.

If you put a gun to my head i would always take a player that wants to be here as opposed to one that doesn't as we've seen all too often that if they don't want to be here their talent is irrelivant as they juist wont play to it.

Adebayor is a perfect example of that.

Again. I se your point.
Nasri you are partially right about but he was a quality player that cannot be denied. The thing is, almost none of the Arsenal players actually care about playing for us, and I think it's misguided to think of players who 'want' to play for us.
Giroud only wants to play for us now because we took a punt on him whereas no other ig club would touch him.

Trust me though, if he somehow managed a 30 goal season (he won't), followed by another, he will have zero interest in playing for us.
And so the cycle will begin again! I personally want to get rid of players that really 'want to play for us'. That means the likes of Diaby, Frimpong, Ramsey, Chamakh, Gervinho etc. They all badly want to play for us, but I don't want them playing for us.

We need to get it through our headsthat no one 'wants' to play for Arsenal, or any club that isn't:

A. Manchester united (all those trophies, Alex Ferguson - and even then, they almost certainly wanna bugger off to...)
B. Barcelona
C. Real Madrid
D. PSG (for obvious reasons)

Everyone WANTS to play for those 3 teams and no one else.
All this 'boyhood club' and 'wants to play' is fictitious fantasy talk.
Offer any Arsenal player at any stage the chance for more trophies AND more cash, and they won't hang around - whilst someone who genuinely did want to play forthe club, would.

Therefore I would rather have a motivated Bayor over Giroud or Podolski. Why?
Because he is better at football.

Nasri is better at football than Gervinho is. So that means that even if he only gives you a half season, that half season of productivity will trump a full season of Gervinho mediocrity all day long.

I really don't see how that's debatable but each to their own I guess...

[Gunnersaurus]

This club is a stepping stone, we all know this, the only way this club can keep players happy and motivated is to either win trophies or pay them top dollar, until that happens we will always have players passing through and a lack of commitment.

One thing I will say though, if you believe what you read about Bould and Song then that is a start in knocking these wasters into shape and making sure that while they are here, they will play for the shirt.

Unfortunately, that is all we can hope for.

I don't agree with having a half interested talent here, there's nothing that drives me mad more then seeing someone go through the motions in a half arsed fashion being paid with 'our' money that we pay in to the club, I would rather see us lose with passion than fund these wankers picking up their pay cheque and laughing in our faces.

[flash gunner]

Therefore I would rather have a motivated Bayor over Giroud or Podolski. Why?
Because he is better at football

This is where your argument falls down. Adebayor will never stay motivated for any length of time and certainly wasn't for us... Its like saying i would vote for Nick Griffin if he was a nice bloke or id drive a Lada if they were good cars. There whole being is shit like Adebayor and always will be

[Babatunde]

This club is a stepping stone, we all know this, the only way this club can keep players happy and motivated is to either win trophies or pay them top dollar, until that happens we will always have players passing through and a lack of commitment.

One thing I will say though, if you believe what you read about Bould and Song then that is a start in knocking these wasters into shape and making sure that while they are here, they will play for the shirt.

Unfortunately, that is all we can hope for.

I don't agree with having a half interested talent here, there's nothing that drives me mad more then seeing someone go through the motions in a half arsed fashion being paid with 'our' money that we pay in to the club, I would rather see us lose with passion than fund these wankers picking up their pay cheque and laughing in our faces.

Agreed 95%

[Gunnersaurus]

This club is a stepping stone, we all know this, the only way this club can keep players happy and motivated is to either win trophies or pay them top dollar, until that happens we will always have players passing through and a lack of commitment.

One thing I will say though, if you believe what you read about Bould and Song then that is a start in knocking these wasters into shape and making sure that while they are here, they will play for the shirt.

Unfortunately, that is all we can hope for.

I don't agree with having a half interested talent here, there's nothing that drives me mad more then seeing someone go through the motions in a half arsed fashion being paid with 'our' money that we pay in to the club, I would rather see us lose with passion than fund these wankers picking up their pay cheque and laughing in our faces.

Agreed 95%

Now I'm scared, we almost agree, it can only mean one thing I must now do

[Gunnersaurus]

Therefore I would rather have a motivated Bayor over Giroud or Podolski. Why?
Because he is better at football

This is where your argument falls down. Adebayor will never stay motivated for any length of time and certainly wasn't for us... Its like saying i would vote for Nick Griffin if he was a nice bloke or id drive a Lada if they were good cars. There whole being is shit like Adebayor and always will be

He's got his contract now, watch how shit he will be now.

[Top Londoner]

Meh.

I predict 8-12 goals in all comps this season.

Only 2 scored after the new year.

Misses a sitter or five this season.

Gets sent off this season.

Slags of Manager in the press this season.

Gets boo'ed by own supporters.

Maybe has a long term injury. Though I am not wishing that on him, seriously.

Best rid.

[piresistible]

He scored 30 goals once, he was shit after that, you got a short memory Baba.

See your point but answer me this then mascot: who would you rather have here and now.
A fully committed Gervinho, who wants to stay at Arsenal and play? Or Samir Nasri?

Who would you also rather have? A fully committed player who wants to play for the club like Chamakh, desperate to stay with us?
Or Van Payslip?

Be honest go on.

i bet beba would prefer sheringham over DB - the master

[Peeman]

He scored 30 goals once, he was shit after that, you got a short memory Baba.

See your point but answer me this then mascot: who would you rather have here and now.
A fully committed Gervinho, who wants to stay at Arsenal and play? Or Samir Nasri?

Who would you also rather have? A fully committed player who wants to play for the club like Chamakh, desperate to stay with us?
Or Van Payslip?

Be honest go on.

I presume u agree that arshavin has great talent. So would u have him starting every game?

Go on be honest

[Gunnersaurus]

OOOh, I think that's match point.

[Babatunde]

He scored 30 goals once, he was shit after that, you got a short memory Baba.

See your point but answer me this then mascot: who would you rather have here and now.
A fully committed Gervinho, who wants to stay at Arsenal and play? Or Samir Nasri?

Who would you also rather have? A fully committed player who wants to play for the club like Chamakh, desperate to stay with us?
Or Van Payslip?

Be honest go on.

I presume u agree that arshavin has great talent. So would u have him starting every game?

Fatuous bollocks, as Arsh doesn't even perform for a half season. Nasri does and so does Bayor.
mind you I'd take Darren Bent over Giroud though...


Go on be honest