WALCOTT - which position is best etc?

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the moog
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Re: Walcott's PR Team/Theo out - no direct replacement?

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Red Member wrote:this is unbelievable

the club is collapsing. if Walcott is sold then our best 3 players from last season have basically said this club is going nowhere and left. I am sure most of the others want to leave as well but know that there are not going to be many takers for them.

for all those who dont rate RVP, Song and Walcott consider where they are going - United, Barcelona and City - 3 of the biggest clubs in world football, so they can't be too bad.

and consider the replacements that Arsenal have lined up - Giroud, Diaby and Gervinho

who is seriously going to pay to watch the crap left at the club?
i certainly will

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Have to say although I would have been delighted for Arsenal to sell Walcott, but much earlier in the window than now. What this demonstrates is that Wenger (again) has mismanaged the window. You simply cannot leave it until the last few days until the window closes. It is bad business for this to keep happening over and over. Can't wait to see the back of Wenger :banghead:

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You all slate Wenger time and time again but dont you think his strings are being pulled. What on earth do you think he feels when above all else RVP is sold and will bite us in the arse. Song was a decent deal but he was exceptional at setting up goals last season. Sahin wont even come on loan.
Walcott although his form is up and down has not even reached near his potential yet and he again will be off to City, Liverpool or another big club.
For one second do you not think Kronke is behind this and the only thing Wenger is doing wrong is not speaking up about it. Mind you dont worry this is going to be our worst season not because we are at our weakest but because the rest of the Prem is at their strongest.

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I totally agree about Kroenke.

The years before he arrived as the majority shareholder will be seen as a golden era at the club - even up to 2010.

because of RVP & Wenger the club overachieved last season - no one at the club really expected to finish 3rd. however instead of strengthening the board sees this as an opportunity to make money.

the only problem that I see with Wenger now is that he should consider walking, because clearly the team is substantially weaker now. If he stays then from now on what success he achieved in the past is going to be largely forgotten.It is a very sad state of affairs.

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supergeorgegraham wrote:You all slate Wenger time and time again but dont you think his strings are being pulled. What on earth do you think he feels when above all else RVP is sold and will bite us in the arse. Song was a decent deal but he was exceptional at setting up goals last season. Sahin wont even come on loan.
Walcott although his form is up and down has not even reached near his potential yet and he again will be off to City, Liverpool or another big club.
For one second do you not think Kronke is behind this and the only thing Wenger is doing wrong is not speaking up about it. Mind you dont worry this is going to be our worst season not because we are at our weakest but because the rest of the Prem is at their strongest.
So you think that Kroenke is sitting in the background saying - 'Ok - We will wait until the very last portion of the window and then sell Theo' ?

I'd admit that agents surely want to wait because they stand to get a better price regardless, but Arsenal don't win in this situation and when I say Arsenal, I am also including Kroenke as well. They may get a slightly better price for him, but now we have to run out and try to find a replacement (and that is a big assumption).

If we sell Walcott and don't bring anyone in, people are going to be very very pissed off.

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Theo has been offered a contract, a good one, and he doesn't Want as he believes he is worth 100k a week! What has he ever done to deserve that? Players greed is the reason why we lose most of these players. Or should we just bend over and pay them all whatever they want?

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BournemouthRED wrote:Theo has been offered a contract, a good one, and he doesn't Want as he believes he is worth 100k a week! What has he ever done to deserve that? Players greed is the reason why we lose most of these players. Or should we just bend over and pay them all whatever they want?

No footballers are worth that but if you want the club to be successful then they have to pay it.

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supergeorgegraham wrote:You all slate Wenger time and time again but dont you think his strings are being pulled.

For one second do you not think Kronke is behind this and the only thing Wenger is doing wrong is not speaking up about it.
Why is it Kroenke? Im no Kroenke fan but this firesale of our best players has been going on for 5 years or more but Kroenke has only owned the club for 18 months... Hows it him? Also Wenger has one of the best reps in world football (whatever we all think of him) why would he stick around if players and decisions were being made above him with him being made to look more and more inept season after season? He wouldnt!!! He could have pretty much any job in world football but no he stays with us and its because he is in it up to his eyeballs and is complicit with every decision

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Red Member wrote:
BournemouthRED wrote:Theo has been offered a contract, a good one, and he doesn't Want as he believes he is worth 100k a week! What has he ever done to deserve that? Players greed is the reason why we lose most of these players. Or should we just bend over and pay them all whatever they want?

No footballers are worth that but if you want the club to be successful then they have to pay it.
If the success of our club hinges on paying players like Walcott obscene amounts of money we truly are screwed!

Van persie left and there's a massive void to fill, he should be kicking his lips at the opportunity on the pitch and finally show everyone what he's made of!

But only for an extra 25k a week! Cheers theo :roll:

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This news has made me day!! He is awful, will be easily replaced by someone who can control a football - already a plus.

We will finally play with eleven men again!

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flash gunner wrote:
supergeorgegraham wrote:You all slate Wenger time and time again but dont you think his strings are being pulled.

For one second do you not think Kronke is behind this and the only thing Wenger is doing wrong is not speaking up about it.
Why is it Kroenke? Im no Kroenke fan but this firesale of our best players has been going on for 5 years or more but Kroenke has only owned the club for 18 months... Hows it him? Also Wenger has one of the best reps in world football (whatever we all think of him) why would he stick around if players and decisions were being made above him with him being made to look more and more inept season after season? He wouldnt!!! He could have pretty much any job in world football but no he stays with us and its because he is in it up to his eyeballs and is complicit with every decision

Spot on.
Quote from Wenger 12 months ago:
" I have complete authority and I am involved in all decisions. I work in dream conditions"

It's one thing saying nothing but going out your way to state how happy you are?
Wenger has been mismanaging this club for far too long for Kroenke to get the blame. If anything Kroenke should be getting stick for letting Wenger have so much power. £12 mil blown on Gervinho, that new Diaby contract, £12 mil on Giroud, the money wasted on rubbish like Santos...
Arsenal spent over £48 million on players last summer. The problem was, they were on the whole, crap.

RVP leaving is down to Wenger surrounding him with rubbish, just as he did with Cesc for years, mismanaged Diarra and Flamini, the way he couldn't handle Adebayor.

He's an awful awful man manager, shit tactician, wins fuck all.
What he now is, is a top accountant and scout for Manchester. That's it.
1 more year of this rubbish post this season!

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Red Member wrote:
BournemouthRED wrote:Theo has been offered a contract, a good one, and he doesn't Want as he believes he is worth 100k a week! What has he ever done to deserve that? Players greed is the reason why we lose most of these players. Or should we just bend over and pay them all whatever they want?

No footballers are worth that but if you want the club to be successful then they have to pay it.
But only pay it if they are worth it, and after 6 years of potential Theo isn't worth it. Of all the players on the books since we last won a trophy he is the one I wanted to succeed the most. But the reality is flashes of brilliance, shrouded by sustained frustration, for every second half against Spurs there are too many first halves against Spurs.
i would rather he stayed, he is miles ahead of Gervinho, but he hasn't done enough to justify his alleged demands.

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75k for a player who freely admits is only "consistent in patches" is an excellent offer - Arsenal are doing more than enough financially to keep him.

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I don't care if Walcott goes, but who manages contracts at Arsenal? Yet again a 'top' player gets into the last year of his contract.....how many more times will this be allowed to happen? It's mis-management from every area of the club from Wenger to Kranky.

For those who say Wenger is controlled by Kranky.....you seriously believe someone with Wengers reputation would be a puppet for 10 years? You are deluded!
Wenger has the easiest job in world football, 7m a year in wages, no accountability whatsoever, free reign to do what he wants when he wants, sits on board meetings, has a say in financial strategy of the club, pumps money back into his beloved French football every single year, doesn't answer to anyone, doesn't give a shit about the fans because they know nothing.

F*** right off Wenger. You have killed Arsenal Football Club.

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