WALCOTT - which position is best etc?

[OneBardGooner]

i don't want him to stay in the country let alone Arsenal

Aaah! so it was you who shagged his missus while he was playing against stoke inbreds!

[OneBardGooner]

So baba. Are you saying that we should keep him on a five years £100k p/w wage, rather than sell him?
That makes no sense. The player has had six years to prove he is worth a bumper pay day.

It will be nigh on impossible to replace him in the last hours of the transfer market. Club's will know that we have good cash to spend, and Wenger will trot out the old, 'we have cover and shall promote from within'.
We then get spanked by Liverpool this weekend and Wenger will say that it is not ideal and we shall look at strenthening the 'squad' in January.
Liar.

No way is he worth £100k.

Then again is DIaby worth 60k?
Is Chamakh worth 70k?
Is Shitachi worth 60k?
Is Flapianski worth £40k?
Is Gervinho worth 65k?
Is Denilson worth 55k?
Is Bendtner worth 52k?
Is Djourou worth 50k?
Is Santos worth 50k?
Is Ramsey worth 40k?
Is Park worth his rumoured 40k?
Is Theo currently worth the 60k he is on?
How many full seasons has Wilshere had? Answer: a half season of good form. Is that worth his 50k deal at that age and with that injury record?


So, taking all this into consideration - and our useless manager's comical 7 mil + wages; Arsenal are obviously one of the worst run clubs in England.

So where's the problem with overpaying Walcott? We are doing it already!


In an ideal world Walcott would be sold and the following players signed, all affordable:

1. Mouss Dembele (Song replacement, £15 mil)
2. Nuri Sahin (ooops thought we'd fuck about!)
3. Stefan Jovetic (an attacker who can actually find the net)
4. Julio Cesar (as a back up goalie who has experience)
5. Nigel DeJong
6. Neven Subotic (as a defender who can play across the back line)

Now. Every one of those players is/was easily affordable.

DeJong contract almost up.
Cesar is joining QP effing R
Sahin was ours until Le Clown and Gazidis stepped in.
Dembele woulda jumped at the chance of joining Arsenal.

In fact the only tricky ones there would be Jovetic and Subotic. And Jovetic is at Fiorentina, who are short a few bob and have no European football to offer, a team scraping relegation. A bid of about £18 mil and he could be bought.


DeJong, Sahin and Cesar would cost eff all between them. Only Dembele and Joveitc here cost serious dosh.

Subotic is an option but he might be the only expensive one in the list.

Still. We have Diaby and Cloueless...

Where do yu get all these figures Baba? - are they real or are they estimates/

It's just that the thought of ANYONE (especially these pussies - and that goes for ALL prem players not just Arsenal's) earning THAT much a week makes me wanna vomit all over them...I mean if they're a top notch brain surgeon or something equally useful fine...I mean the nurses deal with real shyte and are earning peanuts...yes, I know it's the way the world is, But it's WRONG.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Is wenger on £25 million a year yet

[flash gunner]

Is wenger on £25 million a year yet

[k1tsun3]

I have to agree with Robson on Talkshite ....

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/ ... ott-179734

He is hard on Wenger which is probably why he isn't on the Arsenal Player anymore, but I find myself agreeing with what he says here.

I agree here as well. He just isn't consistent enough to be paid £75k/wk, and rumours say he want £100k/wk. Bottom line is that Arsenal need to change their pay structure to prevent overpaying and creating an atmosphere where players think they are more than their worth, especially if they can't compete with the likes of City, Chelsea and United for pay packages, but if their structure is right, they would be able to provide more competitive pay packages to the real quality players and in turn force their bench players and fringe players to prove their worth and fight for their spot and a wage increase.

I say let him go. The only down side to that is that shite the media will right again about how Arsenal is a selling/feeder club, but who cares. Let City or whoever overpay for a bench player. Sure he can be a game changer from the bench, like he proved in the Euros, but it still doesn't justify £75k/wk.

[BournemouthRED]

Is wenger on £25 million a year yet

You joke but If he wanted he could no doubt finance the purchase of messi himself! He must be loaded!!!

[TheCook]

No.

Walcott is single handedly reponsisble for removing all enthusiasm I had for the new season after about five seconds play on the first day; I'm sure it has been mentioned elsewhere, but at kick off against Sunderland, the ball was played back to Vermaelen, who sent a diagonal ball over to Walcott in space on the wing ; who then miscontrolled it and the ball bimbled out for a throw in.

After that point, I was already sick of football again.

[1886 Cannon]

Change the rules. Say here you can earn up to maybe £200k a week but it will be linked to goals, assists, clean sheets, league position, trophies etc etc. Pay them in a Fantasy Football points scale.

[richpye]

So baba. Are you saying that we should keep him on a five years £100k p/w wage, rather than sell him?
That makes no sense. The player has had six years to prove he is worth a bumper pay day.

It will be nigh on impossible to replace him in the last hours of the transfer market. Club's will know that we have good cash to spend, and Wenger will trot out the old, 'we have cover and shall promote from within'.
We then get spanked by Liverpool this weekend and Wenger will say that it is not ideal and we shall look at strenthening the 'squad' in January.
Liar.

No way is he worth £100k.

Then again is DIaby worth 60k?
Is Chamakh worth 70k?
Is Shitachi worth 60k?
Is Flapianski worth £40k?
Is Gervinho worth 65k?
Is Denilson worth 55k?
Is Bendtner worth 52k?
Is Djourou worth 50k?
Is Santos worth 50k?
Is Ramsey worth 40k?
Is Park worth his rumoured 40k?
Is Theo currently worth the 60k he is on?
How many full seasons has Wilshere had? Answer: a half season of good form. Is that worth his 50k deal at that age and with that injury record?


So, taking all this into consideration - and our useless manager's comical 7 mil + wages; Arsenal are obviously one of the worst run clubs in England.

So where's the problem with overpaying Walcott? We are doing it already!


In an ideal world Walcott would be sold and the following players signed, all affordable:

1. Mouss Dembele (Song replacement, £15 mil)
2. Nuri Sahin (ooops thought we'd fuck about!)
3. Stefan Jovetic (an attacker who can actually find the net)
4. Julio Cesar (as a back up goalie who has experience)
5. Nigel DeJong
6. Neven Subotic (as a defender who can play across the back line)

Now. Every one of those players is/was easily affordable.

DeJong contract almost up.
Cesar is joining QP effing R
Sahin was ours until Le Clown and Gazidis stepped in.
Dembele woulda jumped at the chance of joining Arsenal.

In fact the only tricky ones there would be Jovetic and Subotic. And Jovetic is at Fiorentina, who are short a few bob and have no European football to offer, a team scraping relegation. A bid of about £18 mil and he could be bought.


DeJong, Sahin and Cesar would cost eff all between them. Only Dembele and Joveitc here cost serious dosh.

Subotic is an option but he might be the only expensive one in the list.

Still. We have Diaby and Cloueless...

So surely, stopping the madness of overplaying players is what we need to do....which is surely happenning iin this instance?

Agreed. The issue here is the fact that these players are at Arsenal, which is why we can't pay the big bucks for Sahin etc.
Baba, whilst I understand your point, these mistakes have been made, they can't simply be unwound. Youngguns said around 19 players (I think) have been released this off season which is a good effort, but you are right we haven't removed the dead wood.

The thing is we are in the position where we need to do this first (be it through selling or releasing) before we can buy again. Unfortunately this could take time (as we've seen people are just not willing to pay the wages we have paid out and our players have the mentality where they would rather sit on the bench earning their corn than playing first team football)

[northbank123]

Only Baba could reel off a long list of players that we pay too much and then wonder why we didn't match Liverpool's offer of paying Sahin's £115k/w wages as well as a loan fee with no set fee to buy at the end.

Sahin is the Bundesliga Player of the Year 2010/11.
That means that in a league with players of the level of Ribery, Robben, Schweinsteiger, Kagawa, Lewandowski, Schurrle, Goetze and Reus; he was voted the best player of the lot.
Hence the reason he as good enough to be signed by Real Madrid and Mourinho in the first place.

The other players I mentioned are hit and wouldn't get a game at Doncaster in the cases of Shitachi, Flapianski, Park, Gervinho (he'd be a sub), Chamakh, Denilson and Santos. Oh and Jenkinson too.

So the difference is: nothing wrong with paying top players big money, everythin wrong with paying shite big money.

How hard is that to understand?

So Wilshere not worth anywhere near £50k/w after one great season and then not playing the next but Sahin is worth more than double that (plus a transfer fee) despite one good season in a far inferior league and then barely playing the next? With the added killer that if he actually has a good season then undoubtedly he will be called back to Madrid or flogged for a typically inflated fee and wages to a Milan club.

I know you're wumming but come on, put a bit of effort in.

[Eboue-Why?]

This is an easy/hard decision for reasons already mentioned. People on the radio and on here have been quoting his goals/assists for last season but if ever there was a classic example of lies, damn lies and statistics, then this is it. Only people like us who watch him for 70 mins every other week know what the true Walcott is and whilst I still maintain that we might regret never giving him a good go down the middle, he's another twat who if the stories are true has got well above his station and is now trying to blackmail the club. Whenever this happens I lose any affection I had for the player and at that point they can do one.
The hard bit though is whether the manager will spend it plus more to bring in quality like Cazorla.....what's that you say? Don't hold your breath?
Oh for the days of Tony Adams who famously said he never once read any of his contracts, he didn't need to, he just signed them
Theo 'I want nothing less than £100k a week' Walcott.......jog on son.

[Babatunde]

So baba. Are you saying that we should keep him on a five years £100k p/w wage, rather than sell him?
That makes no sense. The player has had six years to prove he is worth a bumper pay day.

It will be nigh on impossible to replace him in the last hours of the transfer market. Club's will know that we have good cash to spend, and Wenger will trot out the old, 'we have cover and shall promote from within'.
We then get spanked by Liverpool this weekend and Wenger will say that it is not ideal and we shall look at strenthening the 'squad' in January.
Liar.

No way is he worth £100k.

Then again is DIaby worth 60k?
Is Chamakh worth 70k?
Is Shitachi worth 60k?
Is Flapianski worth £40k?
Is Gervinho worth 65k?
Is Denilson worth 55k?
Is Bendtner worth 52k?
Is Djourou worth 50k?
Is Santos worth 50k?
Is Ramsey worth 40k?
Is Park worth his rumoured 40k?
Is Theo currently worth the 60k he is on?
How many full seasons has Wilshere had? Answer: a half season of good form. Is that worth his 50k deal at that age and with that injury record?


So, taking all this into consideration - and our useless manager's comical 7 mil + wages; Arsenal are obviously one of the worst run clubs in England.

So where's the problem with overpaying Walcott? We are doing it already!


In an ideal world Walcott would be sold and the following players signed, all affordable:

1. Mouss Dembele (Song replacement, £15 mil)
2. Nuri Sahin (ooops thought we'd fuck about!)
3. Stefan Jovetic (an attacker who can actually find the net)
4. Julio Cesar (as a back up goalie who has experience)
5. Nigel DeJong
6. Neven Subotic (as a defender who can play across the back line)

Now. Every one of those players is/was easily affordable.

DeJong contract almost up.
Cesar is joining QP effing R
Sahin was ours until Le Clown and Gazidis stepped in.
Dembele woulda jumped at the chance of joining Arsenal.

In fact the only tricky ones there would be Jovetic and Subotic. And Jovetic is at Fiorentina, who are short a few bob and have no European football to offer, a team scraping relegation. A bid of about £18 mil and he could be bought.


DeJong, Sahin and Cesar would cost eff all between them. Only Dembele and Joveitc here cost serious dosh.

Subotic is an option but he might be the only expensive one in the list.

Still. We have Diaby and Cloueless...

Where do yu get all these figures Baba? - are they real or are they estimates/

It's just that the thought of ANYONE (especially these pussies - and that goes for ALL prem players not just Arsenal's) earning THAT much a week makes me wanna vomit all over them...I mean if they're a top notch brain surgeon or something equally useful fine...I mean the nurses deal with real shyte and are earning peanuts...yes, I know it's the way the world is, But it's WRONG.

OBG: Two years ago, l'Equipe in France started posting wages based on their information from agents, clubs ad leaks for PL and Bundesliga footballers, as well as France of course.
The most infamous one was the one where the West Ham wages were leaked (Lui Boa Morte on £50k LL).
They did one for Arsenal, and the wages on it were staggering. Have already posted a link to it on here (is in French) but will find it and re-post if I can...

[Babatunde]

Only Baba could reel off a long list of players that we pay too much and then wonder why we didn't match Liverpool's offer of paying Sahin's £115k/w wages as well as a loan fee with no set fee to buy at the end.

Sahin is the Bundesliga Player of the Year 2010/11.
That means that in a league with players of the level of Ribery, Robben, Schweinsteiger, Kagawa, Lewandowski, Schurrle, Goetze and Reus; he was voted the best player of the lot.
Hence the reason he as good enough to be signed by Real Madrid and Mourinho in the first place.

The other players I mentioned are hit and wouldn't get a game at Doncaster in the cases of Shitachi, Flapianski, Park, Gervinho (he'd be a sub), Chamakh, Denilson and Santos. Oh and Jenkinson too.

So the difference is: nothing wrong with paying top players big money, everythin wrong with paying shite big money.

How hard is that to understand?

So Wilshere not worth anywhere near £50k/w after one great season and then not playing the next but Sahin is worth more than double that (plus a transfer fee) despite one good season in a far inferior league and then barely playing the next? With the added killer that if he actually has a good season then undoubtedly he will be called back to Madrid or flogged for a typically inflated fee and wages to a Milan club.

I know you're wumming but come on, put a bit of effort in.

How idiotic are you? Inferior league? When did Wilshere ever have a full season pleasename it?
You obviously do not watch much Arsenal, or else you'd know Wilshere has NEVER completed a full season! It has never happened, so you pulled that from your rectum am afraid.
'Inferior' league? You sound like Wenger with that bullshit. Who says it is inferior? You? Why because papa Murdoch told you the 'EPL' is the bestest ever league in the world? Where you can pay £100 to go and watch Arsenal bore the pants off you in two goalless draws over 180 minutes, with about 4 shots on target throughout?

Oh dear, try harder...

[Babatunde]

Only Baba could reel off a long list of players that we pay too much and then wonder why we didn't match Liverpool's offer of paying Sahin's £115k/w wages as well as a loan fee with no set fee to buy at the end.

Sahin is the Bundesliga Player of the Year 2010/11.
That means that in a league with players of the level of Ribery, Robben, Schweinsteiger, Kagawa, Lewandowski, Schurrle, Goetze and Reus; he was voted the best player of the lot.
Hence the reason he as good enough to be signed by Real Madrid and Mourinho in the first place.

The other players I mentioned are hit and wouldn't get a game at Doncaster in the cases of Shitachi, Flapianski, Park, Gervinho (he'd be a sub), Chamakh, Denilson and Santos. Oh and Jenkinson too.

So the difference is: nothing wrong with paying top players big money, everythin wrong with paying shite big money.

How hard is that to understand?

So Wilshere not worth anywhere near £50k/w after one great season and then not playing the next but Sahin is worth more than double that (plus a transfer fee) despite one good season in a far inferior league and then barely playing the next? With the added killer that if he actually has a good season then undoubtedly he will be called back to Madrid or flogged for a typically inflated fee and wages to a Milan club.

I know you're wumming but come on, put a bit of effort in.

PS If he has a good season, the Mousers have te option to sign him.
That little fact might have got in the way of your nonsense but aaaanyways...

:ROLL:

[Red Member]

to be honest if Chamakh is geting paid £70k a week surely Walcott would be a bargain at £100k a week!

or can't we just get rid of Chamakh ANYWHERE, pay Walcott £100k a week and we still make a profit!