As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
is Gazidis trying to make himself look more of a than he already is????
so Arsenal FC are the most ambitious club that he knows? Has he been on holiday for the last month whilst the club sold our best player to one of our biggest rivals in England and our 2nd best player to one of our biggest rivals in Europe?
Any season ticket holder who is surprised that Wenger is being lined up with a lucrative new contract and is not happy needs only to look at themselves in the mirror for the reason for this. As long as the club gets the backing from the supporters nothing will change. Kroenke knows this, Gazidis knows this and Wenger knows this. Will supporters ever learn this?
ok I'm off to buy my ticket for the Olympiakos match
whilst I dont care too much for Kroenke & Gazidis I still think Wenger is the best manager Arsenal can have.
For a club with supposed unlimited amounts of ambition, it would do well for this ambition to manifest itself once in a while. For example, a genuine and honest business plan about how we are supposedly going to contribute with the elite of european football (i.e. We aren't doing it now, so what is the club looking to do to make these changes?)
Instead, this article feels a bit like a request for a stay of execution (again) whilst we delay our ambitions for another two years.
The only bright side for me is that the list of possible excuses are running out. If 2014 doesn't bring some form of record change in income then I can't honestly see what changes. As Babatunde states, who's going to sponsor a club to record amounts of money if we're not winning anything?
With Arsenal now established at the Emirates, the next major step forward should arrive in two years’ time when the club will no longer be committed to commercial deals that were made in 2004.
“In terms of the financial impact, it will be as significant a step forward as the stadium was in 2005,” Gazidis said
And we all know how significantly we have stepped forward since 2005
Red Member wrote:
so Arsenal FC are the most ambitious club that he knows? Has he been on holiday for the last month whilst the club sold our best player to one of our biggest rivals in England and our 2nd best player to one of our biggest rivals in Europe?
I knew that if I stuck around long enough there would be some new comedy
Not sure if its 'the 2nd best player bit' or Barca being one of our biggest rivals that's the funniest part !
Or perhaps I got it wrong and you were referring to the sad loss of Vela to our big rivals Real Sociedad
Red Member wrote:the question should be asked who made these crap deals in 2004 when we were the invincibles?
They weren't that bad at the time, it's just we needed a significant amount of cash upfront and had to do long term deals to help with the financial legacy of building the stadium. They look terrible now but it's not a very fair comparison, the value of these deals has gone through the roof in recent years, not sure anyone could have predicted the increase.
so whatever he does in the next 2 years, if he got us relageted (not going to happen but still) he would still get a new deal? , and beyond that deal only he will decide when hes had enough???
beggars belief. who can blame wenger anymore, its the pricks who give him free reign and allow him to do what he does that are the ones who should take most blame, if we in our jobs could get away with doing badly yet still get paid with no threat of the sack we probably would do what we wnat too. how can any club have a manager who is completely unaccountable for his teams performance? arsenal are a joke now. shocking
the playing mantis wrote:edelman did them. needs must at the time.
the most concerning part is this:
"when Arsène decides it’s time"
so whatever he does in the next 2 years, if he got us relageted (not going to happen but still) he would still get a new deal? , and beyond that deal only he will decide when hes had enough???
beggars belief. who can blame wenger anymore, its the pricks who give him free reign and allow him to do what he does that are the ones who should take most blame, if we in our jobs could get away with doing badly yet still get paid with no threat of the sack we probably would do what we wnat too. how can any club have a manager who is completely unaccountable for his teams performance? arsenal are a joke now. shocking
I am glad everyone is finally agreeing that this is the case. Kroenke and Gazidis OUT
2014 new commercial deals may well be a huge improvement on the 2004 ones.
Even as a top four club I bet we are still attractive to sponsors, just look at other clubs doing well from deals.
We are still a central London club who are televised a lot.
The previous deals were done under pressure in order to get the stadium open on time, and we had little leverage then, all sponsors knew we needed the cash.
The two questions are:
1.) If the club keep from spending that bit extra on players, will we actually be a top four club in 2014?
If not, it will have an impact on potential revenue from deals and otherwise.
2.) If we are a top four club and make good deals in 2014, there is no guarantee any of the extra cash will go on players. It may well end up like our recent profits, stashed in the bank, as I suspect a way of "paying off the stadium in kind" until we contractually pay it off in 2031.
the playing mantis wrote:edelman did them. needs must at the time.
the most concerning part is this:
"when Arsène decides it’s time"
so whatever he does in the next 2 years, if he got us relageted (not going to happen but still) he would still get a new deal? , and beyond that deal only he will decide when hes had enough???
beggars belief. who can blame wenger anymore, its the pricks who give him free reign and allow him to do what he does that are the ones who should take most blame, if we in our jobs could get away with doing badly yet still get paid with no threat of the sack we probably would do what we wnat too. how can any club have a manager who is completely unaccountable for his teams performance? arsenal are a joke now. shocking
Yet the AKB's will cry "his hands are tied" its the boards fault" The man who decides himself if the board gives him a new contract hands are tied.
in fairness i want him gone, but the board must take a lot of the blame too for not reigning him him or putting any sort of expectation on him. they are the ones who can make the change, but simply wont.
Babatunde wrote:In response to the Gazidis interview, the AST has released a new survey that shows that the person Nelson Mandela, Alex Ferguson, Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr, Attila the Hun, Brad Pitt and Winston Churchill would most like to be is Arsene Wenger.
I'm Arsene Wenger!
No! I'm Arsene Wenger!
Maybe we are all Arsene Wenger
That can be the only explanation for the sh1tty, groundhog day, warped existence we are currently living. I swear being an Arsenal fan is like being in a Stanley Kubrick movie
than he already is????
