SOUTHAMPTON HOME THREAD

[northbank123]

Quite a few people are saying don't change a winning team so Mert stays in ahead of Kos. Does the same apply with Mannone now Chesney is back?

yes. mannone is the back up, if you want him to improve he needs games and experience. its a long season, easing ches and Kos back in will have benefits in January let alone May.

with ches on the bench, if manny has a mare they can sub him in.

AW also indicated that Jack is less than two weeks away.

Subbing a keeper because of a poor game, you must be joking? Absolutely fucking ruin his confidence. Mannone is shite, last time we left him in the team in the same scenario he cost us 2 points at West Ham. He's had very little to do in the two games, and in my view has looked entirely unconvincing. Szczesny has to come back in.

[silus]

Got to have Chesney back in, other then that should be same team.
I think he might rest ox though because of the internationals, walcott has been ill...so that means a start for...Gervinho

[northbank123]

First game of the season for me, can't wait Last before I return to studentdom for the year too.

[arseofacrow]

Quite a few people are saying don't change a winning team so Mert stays in ahead of Kos. Does the same apply with Mannone now Chesney is back?

yes. mannone is the back up, if you want him to improve he needs games and experience. its a long season, easing ches and Kos back in will have benefits in January let alone May.

with ches on the bench, if manny has a mare they can sub him in.

AW also indicated that Jack is less than two weeks away.

Subbing a keeper because of a poor game, you must be joking? Absolutely fucking ruin his confidence. Mannone is shite, last time we left him in the team in the same scenario he cost us 2 points at West Ham. He's had very little to do in the two games, and in my view has looked entirely unconvincing. Szczesny has to come back in.

I have to admit that it all sounds a little bit crazy - from easing him back in to potentially subbing the keeper.

Crazy person clockender

[rigsby]

I remember YNWA being sung the first game back at Highbury after Hillsborough.

[Gunnersaurus]

I remember YNWA being sung the first game back at Highbury after Hillsborough.

I hope they don't play that tomorrow.

While I'm glad the families have some sort of justification to their beliefs there is a line that needs to be drawn under the pity directed at the scousers who are no angels let it be said.

[clockender1]

Subbing a keeper because of a poor game, you must be joking? Absolutely fucking ruin his confidence. Mannone is shite, last time we left him in the team in the same scenario he cost us 2 points at West Ham. He's had very little to do in the two games, and in my view has looked entirely unconvincing. Szczesny has to come back in.

you're right i wouldn't want to sub him either, but he has kept two clean sheets.

if you don't give him a run now when he's playing well, when do you ?

[clockender1]

I remember YNWA being sung the first game back at Highbury after Hillsborough.

you do ? - i don't. i was at that game (topside, north bank).

i don't remember that.

what i do remember is the minute silence which spooked the pigeons out of the rafters.

it was well eerie. they were totally freaked out - one second the big noise was doing it's thing, then the next... nothing. you could hear a pin drop.

then just the flap of wings as 2-3 birds legged it down onto the pitch in confusion.

[northbank123]

Subbing a keeper because of a poor game, you must be joking? Absolutely fucking ruin his confidence. Mannone is shite, last time we left him in the team in the same scenario he cost us 2 points at West Ham. He's had very little to do in the two games, and in my view has looked entirely unconvincing. Szczesny has to come back in.

you're right i wouldn't want to sub him either, but he has kept two clean sheets.

if you don't give him a run now when he's playing well, when do you ?

Never. He's shite, never going to be good enough, if we play him now it will cost us whether it's against Southampton or 5 games down the line.

I support Spurs continuing to play Friedel ahead of Lloris, but there are key differences for me.

1) Mannone hasn't actually played fantastically well the last two games (shaky under high ball and doesn't command his area): Friedel had a blinder against Norwich.

2) Mannone has done very little to over his tenure at AFC to suggest that he's going to be anything other than an AW reject: Friedel has been generally reliable.

3) Lloris (despite his reputation) has done nothing in England or for Spurs yet: Szczesny has by and large been a solid keeper for AFC and is generally regarded as the future.

[clockender1]

Never. He's shite, never going to be good enough, if we play him now it will cost us whether it's against Southampton or 5 games down the line.

fair enough, he might not be good enough to be Arsenal's Number 1 but that's not what i'm saying - i was thinking that if flappy stays could mannone be better than flappy ? Hull fans thought Mannone was pretty good and wanted him to stay.

Another game or two's learning and experience might put him ahead of flappy who has already cost us games.

Southampton should be a foregone conclusion. i don't see any problem with keeping him in so he's a better back up than flappy down the road.

[RioGooner]

Manonne just might be better then flappy, but to me is a senseless debate, they are both well below the level you expect for a decent keeper.

[This is our club!]

Manonne just might be better then flappy, but to me is a senseless debate, they are both well below the level you expect for a decent keeper.

Agree with this. Why is a club like The Arsenal even having this debate about Manonne? For a club who have had some outstanding keepers in recent history, Lukic, Seaman, Lehmann (with the exception of Coco of course) it shows the level we have regressed to. I don't even think I would consider Chesney, at this stage, to be good enough to be Arsenal's no1.

[arseofacrow]

mannone's shit...flappy's shit...and they'll both cost us.

Szcesney is the most compotent but not the finished article, which is why for the last few years we could have done with someone else.

[OneBardGooner]

mannone's shit...flappy's shit...and they'll both cost us.

Szcesney is the most compotent but not the finished article, which is why for the last few years we could have done with someone else.

^^^This^^^

We should of got rid of flappy and mannone while the window was open - just feckin' put em on a plane to somewhere far far away - one way ticket natch!...and bought an older experienced keeper to give shez a slap every now and then and make him learn his craft properly....he's good, yes and could become excellent - if his Ego doesn't get in the way...There's nothing wrong with being confident...but there's a whole load of difference between confidence and inflated ego...

[augie]

Chesney should return to the starting 11 but the 10 outfield starters should remain the same even though I rate kos and him with mert would be my first choice cb partnership

I hope they don't do the ynwa tribute - for me this sums up what redaction are, in that they claim to exist just to promote a better atmosphere within the ground but have no probs going political when it suits them (real fans real patience march and the anti usmanov banners spring to mind ). How does singing songs about other teams help our atmosphere ? What are the chances that the seeds for this idea were planted from the club itself ? If they want to remember the dead then do the minutes silence at 3.06 again if they want but there is no way I go to Arsenal games to sing about other teams no matter the circumstances