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armchair supporter wrote:
LDB wrote:
Babatunde wrote: Interesting. This essentially confirms that all those stories about Song being a shit-stirrer who wasn't pulling his weight were made-up lies. If Wenger wanted rid of Song, then why was it 'hard to convince him'?
It also makes a mockery of those who claimed 'Arsene is getting tough and slinging out the non-performers'. Bollocks he is, they're buggering off of their own free will. Even shite like Song think they're too good for Wenger FC! :shock:
You really are one boring WUM *word censored*. You know full well that it doesn't confirm a single thing, just an overrated lump of shite that was jettisoned out of the club without a second thought making the obvious press statement about why he has joined Barcelona.

I'm probably going to get the talking to about "personal abuse" but really if Red Member was banned for posting things he knew to be bollocks to get a reaction then I dont see how this is any different. Jesus wept :roll:
"Jettisoned out of the club, without a second thought"? Took Wenker 6 fuckin years to "jettison" him. Thats one pretty slow jettisoning. :roll:
But when it came to doing it it seems to have been done without a second thought. Is that point too complicated for you? Fancy a lie down?

All I'm doing is going off the noises that were coming out of the club at the time. The club hardly fought tooth and nail to keep a player who still had years to run on his contract, did they? In fact most media outlets reported that Song wanted to stay.

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Babatunde wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:You know I actually find it offensive that a lazy waster like Song is coming out with this shit. :x

It's always someone else's fault isn't it? Nothing at all to do with the fact he was slow, lazy, technically poor, unintelligent and wasteful on the pitch... no, it's some mythical "other entity's" fault poor old Billongabong won nothing.

Yeah, Arsene has his share of the blame to shoulder (Christ knows he does!) but it's players like this that piss me off too. Fuckers that lollygaggle around the pitch, get hammered 4-0 or 8-2 and walk off afterwards laughing and joking with the fucking oppo that just humiliated them. :roll: :oops: Then start whining about winning nothing. :roll:

Prize Prick. :roll:
I actually agree with you here. Reminds me of when Denilson said 'I am a winner' etc LOL

Thing is DB10, you really have to ask yourself who the fuck has given these mediocre androids the kind of ego stimulus that leads them to believe they are in a position to be saying Arsenal FC isn't good enough for them? :rubchin:

Is it a total coincidence that Bendtner, Denilson, Song, Frimpong, Hleb, Flamini, etc all shite players in anyone's book...is it any surprise they're so egotistical when you take one glance at our manager? Could you imagine rubbish players like Bebe or Darron Gibson, or Johnny Evans (Manure equivalent) coming out with the sort of horse-shit Arsenal players do? :shock:

It cannot be a surprise that Song has this sense of entitlement. He was a joke for years yet our gormless manager picked him every week and some of our fans even sang that embarrassing 'We've only got one Song' chant :oops: for a solid 40 minutes at Fratton park. I mean singing songs about shite players wtf?

Mind you I totally agree with you on Song the man. It's annoying to read.
Never forget when he was subbed on at home to Spuds with the scores at 4-2. 88th minute. He was laughing, smiling and joking when he came on!!! No focus whatsoever (unforgivable prep by the manager). thought it was a stroll in the park until..

Oh what's that, Aaron Lennon has just made it 4-4 and Song never even picked up his run FFS
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Oh I agree 100% on the Sith Lord Venger issue - and it is one of the reasons I want him gone from The Arsenal. The singing songs (sic) about shite players bugs the fuck outa me. I believe in supporting the team when I'm at a game but that can be done by singing Arsenal songs. If a player is shit or lazy I hate to hear people singing their name. The cult of personality really has taken over a large chunk of our fans. Similar to the "One Arsene Wenger" song. Fuck that. I won't boo him or abuse him because I still respect what he achieved in the past with us, but I will not support him or sing his song.

Support, but not blinkered support. 8)

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Babatunde wrote:
armchair supporter wrote:
LDB wrote:
Babatunde wrote: Interesting. This essentially confirms that all those stories about Song being a shit-stirrer who wasn't pulling his weight were made-up lies. If Wenger wanted rid of Song, then why was it 'hard to convince him'?
It also makes a mockery of those who claimed 'Arsene is getting tough and slinging out the non-performers'. Bollocks he is, they're buggering off of their own free will. Even shite like Song think they're too good for Wenger FC! :shock:
You really are one boring WUM *word censored*. You know full well that it doesn't confirm a single thing, just an overrated lump of shite that was jettisoned out of the club without a second thought making the obvious press statement about why he has joined Barcelona.

I'm probably going to get the talking to about "personal abuse" but really if Red Member was banned for posting things he knew to be bollocks to get a reaction then I dont see how this is any different. Jesus wept :roll:
"Jettisoned out of the club, without a second thought"? Took Wenker 6 fuckin years to "jettison" him. Thats one pretty slow jettisoning. :roll:
Yes that's a good point. LDB don't they teach Maths at Playschool? Or have Fisher-Price stopped making visual aids for the mentally deficient? :rubchin:
Lemme explain to you dear child. If a player is at a club for several years, gets one contract extension...then gets another...then ends up on £60k a week, and is described as 'World class' by his manager, when you see fans singing songs about that player, and when said player is described as 'a pillar of a great squad' by his manager; you end up looking like a bit of a brainless plonker using the term 'jettisoned'; when that player ends up signing for the best team in the world!
:oops:

LOL perhaps LDB we can redefine the English language here.

Alex Song 'jettisoned' to Barca.

Bernie Madoff 'sentenced' to 25 years in a brothel with free bar.

Pat Butcher's husband 'jettisoned' to the arms of Eva Longoria.

LDB's brain 'jettisoned' to a functioning intellectual creature.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

If you want after-school maths and English classes boyo, I'll help you out. Care in the Community and all that...
You're welcome. xxx
Not sure where to begin with this bizarre offering. Going to leave aside all the not-as-funny-as-you-think-they-are jibes.

First things first, Wenger will describe any of his players as world class. He was still watching us play last season and for all his faults I'm sure he couldn't help but spot the glaring Song-shaped hole in front of our back 4 for most of the season. It was obvious enough to me and I haven't worked half a second in football.

As for getting new contracts I agree with you to an extent. We massively over-reward unproven players but this has absolutely nothing to do with the point I was making. Regardless of how many contracts we gave him the manager eventually decided that he wasn't developing and maturing as he hoped and in many ways going backwards so we took the money rather then risk it getting it worse. Happens in football all the time mate.

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LDB wrote:
armchair supporter wrote:
LDB wrote:
Babatunde wrote: Interesting. This essentially confirms that all those stories about Song being a shit-stirrer who wasn't pulling his weight were made-up lies. If Wenger wanted rid of Song, then why was it 'hard to convince him'?
It also makes a mockery of those who claimed 'Arsene is getting tough and slinging out the non-performers'. Bollocks he is, they're buggering off of their own free will. Even shite like Song think they're too good for Wenger FC! :shock:
You really are one boring WUM *word censored*. You know full well that it doesn't confirm a single thing, just an overrated lump of shite that was jettisoned out of the club without a second thought making the obvious press statement about why he has joined Barcelona.

I'm probably going to get the talking to about "personal abuse" but really if Red Member was banned for posting things he knew to be bollocks to get a reaction then I dont see how this is any different. Jesus wept :roll:
"Jettisoned out of the club, without a second thought"? Took Wenker 6 fuckin years to "jettison" him. Thats one pretty slow jettisoning. :roll:
But when it came to doing it it seems to have been done without a second thought. Is that point too complicated for you? Fancy a lie down?

All I'm doing is going off the noises that were coming out of the club at the time. The club hardly fought tooth and nail to keep a player who still had years to run on his contract, did they? In fact most media outlets reported that Song wanted to stay.
Yes and all the Ruski folk did was to go off the news they were fed from Pravda. :lol:

Would those be the same media outlets you are constantly dismissing as unreliable and dishonest?
:rubchin:

Didn't think this one through did you.... :roll:

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Babatunde wrote:
LDB wrote:
armchair supporter wrote:
LDB wrote:
Babatunde wrote: Interesting. This essentially confirms that all those stories about Song being a shit-stirrer who wasn't pulling his weight were made-up lies. If Wenger wanted rid of Song, then why was it 'hard to convince him'?
It also makes a mockery of those who claimed 'Arsene is getting tough and slinging out the non-performers'. Bollocks he is, they're buggering off of their own free will. Even shite like Song think they're too good for Wenger FC! :shock:
You really are one boring WUM *word censored*. You know full well that it doesn't confirm a single thing, just an overrated lump of shite that was jettisoned out of the club without a second thought making the obvious press statement about why he has joined Barcelona.

I'm probably going to get the talking to about "personal abuse" but really if Red Member was banned for posting things he knew to be bollocks to get a reaction then I dont see how this is any different. Jesus wept :roll:
"Jettisoned out of the club, without a second thought"? Took Wenker 6 fuckin years to "jettison" him. Thats one pretty slow jettisoning. :roll:
But when it came to doing it it seems to have been done without a second thought. Is that point too complicated for you? Fancy a lie down?

All I'm doing is going off the noises that were coming out of the club at the time. The club hardly fought tooth and nail to keep a player who still had years to run on his contract, did they? In fact most media outlets reported that Song wanted to stay.
Yes and all the Ruski folk did was to go off the news they were fed from Pravda. :lol:

Would those be the same media outlets you are constantly dismissing as unreliable and dishonest?
:rubchin:

Didn't think this one through did you.... :roll:
Sorry mate but the facts ( :wink: ) simply don't back up your version of events. You're saying that the club fought to keep Song (I doubt you care either way its just another boring stick for you to beat Wenger with) yet they let him go fairly sharpish after Barca's interest was shown despite his contract having some way still to run.

And what media outlets am I "constantly" dismissing as unreliable and dishonest? I didn't realise that was one of my 'things' but I'm sure you know more about it :roll:

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More bullshit from our leader in his latest quotes.....When asked about Eden Hazard and how close we were to signing him....

"All the big budgets in England were after him,' said Wenger. 'The transfer price was fixed, because he had a clause, so everybody was at the same level.
'I cannot tell you how close we were because I don't know what Chelsea paid in the end."

Well you said it yourself you plank, the clause was fixed....did Arsenal offer to meet the clause? It's a simple question.....to which we know the answer....of course Arsenal didn't make a big offer, it's not fair to pay big sums for players is it!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Another quote from Wenger regarding attendance/money....."Our numbers are good,' said Wenger. 'They are pleasing, very pleasing. We are very lucky because we have good support and the income of our gates is very high"
The Chelsea game is the most expensive to watch in Premiership history.

Lucky?? No Wenger, you milk the loyal fans for every penny. :roll:

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TeeCee wrote:More bullshit from our leader in his latest quotes.....When asked about Eden Hazard and how close we were to signing him....

"All the big budgets in England were after him,' said Wenger. 'The transfer price was fixed, because he had a clause, so everybody was at the same level.
'I cannot tell you how close we were because I don't know what Chelsea paid in the end."

Well you said it yourself you plank, the clause was fixed....did Arsenal offer to meet the clause? It's a simple question.....to which we know the answer....of course Arsenal didn't make a big offer, it's not fair to pay big sums for players is it!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Another quote from Wenger regarding attendance/money....."Our numbers are good,' said Wenger. 'They are pleasing, very pleasing. We are very lucky because we have good support and the income of our gates is very high"
The Chelsea game is the most expensive to watch in Premiership history.

Lucky?? No Wenger, you milk the loyal fans for every penny. :roll:
Wenger is a fucking joker.
When Arsenal went to Lille and approached them about Gervinho, Hazard was also available for sale then. The Lille president Seydoux confirmed it in the French press, and said that Arsenal could agree to pay £20 mil up front, on a pre-contract, and then he'd be theirs. At that point, not many clubs were on the Hazard scent.
But oh no, Mr Knows went for Gervinho instead, 'better to save the £7 mil' and pay a useless toilet brush over £60k a week instead... :banghead: :roll:

And guess what? Well a year and a bit later Hazard is a big wanted man and ends up signing for a massive fee. Of course he cost more then...
The same thing happened with Angel Di Maria, the same thing happened when the joker 'could have signed' Ronaldo etc... :roll:

What I don't get, is why he continues to make a pleb out of himself by constantly saying
'I knew of Hazard'
'I was close to signing Ronaldo' etc.

When you end up with Gervinho, Santos and Giroud, you end up looking a bit fucking foolish.

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Also let yaya toure after having him over for a trial, and then we signed Diaby

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AFCjames wrote:Also let yaya toure after having him over for a trial, and then we signed Diaby
It's old news, but we couldn't get Toure because he was unable to secure a work permit ... hence his move to Ukraine.

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g88ner wrote:
AFCjames wrote:Also let yaya toure after having him over for a trial, and then we signed Diaby
It's old news, but we couldn't get Toure because he was unable to secure a work permit ... hence his move to Ukraine.
Laughable given some of the players we've secured work permits for.

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I notice it was the customary "no subs until 65-70th minute" routine again. Honestly, does the guy have the slightest bit of imagination when it comes to substitutions.

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What did he say at the end of the game? What were the excuses? Handbrake? Lacking a bit of sharpness?

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admmasters wrote:What did he say at the end of the game? What were the excuses? Handbrake? Lacking a bit of sharpness?
Whatever it was it would have contained the words "Overall, I believe that....", some such blah about a "lack of efficiency" at key moments (Wenger speak for I haven't got a fucking clue but I'll attempt to throw some mystique and intelligence dust over the issue), not to mention "a little bit unlucky today" I'm sure

In fact read any of the post match transcripts when we've lost at home to one of the big four and it'll probably be a cut and paste from that

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Just before kick-off today, when I saw Wenger had bizarrely dropped the previously outstanding Mertesacker, I thought of Steveo's "self harmer" comment.

Crazy decision by Wenger, and to watch Koscielny play like THAT was just the icing on the cake. What's wrong with playing your in form players?? why rotate for the sake of it against top class opposition? Idiotic, I'm afraid. :(

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SteveO 35 wrote:I notice it was the customary "no subs until 65-70th minute" routine again. Honestly, does the guy have the slightest bit of imagination when it comes to substitutions.
Yep. And of course, he doesn't always replace the right player. Gerv was a mess in the 2nd half and should've come off. Podolski came alive that half and should've stayed on.

I also don't think Ramsey should be starting these matches. He's not a first XI in my opinion, and his passing showed it today. I'm getting tired of all the excuses at the end of the match. We handed the competition 3 points.

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