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Top Londoner, surely that shows the Forehead cannot aim?
g88ner wrote:
DarylAFC wrote:I agree that Giroud should be netting the sitters but I can see why he hasn't.
What does a striker need to think about when he shoots? He concentrates on the job at hand. Giroud however has a royal fuck-tonne on his mind. Ever since he arrived in this country the idiots have said:
"he will never replace RP"
"He wont score 30+ goals"
"He'll be a flop"
"Aah see, he missed, what a shit guy"
"Ah ha! Another miss"
"Yeah put him on the bench"
"If this guys so good, why is he on the bench?"
"What a fucking flop!"
"You'll never score"
"Score already!"
"We need Llorente"
"Sign up Llorente"
All that in a split second when you need absolute concentration. Yes, he should score, but I do understand why the pressure can get to him.
Yes, I understand why the pressure can get to players, but that's what separates top players from the rest - they can cope with pressure and still have the quality to perform.
As for Giroud... it's too early to make definite judgements, but so far he's been woeful. Lets hope he improves significantly, because if he could have finished those late chances this season, we'd be further up the league.
Agree. If he still bottles it by say November then I;d be really worried. If by christmas he still hasnt found form, then I'll admit that he isnt what we needed and we could've done better.
Though I think it would be stupid to buy Llorente. What happened in the past when other teams bought good players of the moment? Carrol? Torres? (Yes the sneaky grunt scored against us today)
DarylAFC wrote:I agree that Giroud should be netting the sitters but I can see why he hasn't.
What does a striker need to think about when he shoots? He concentrates on the job at hand. Giroud however has a royal fuck-tonne on his mind. Ever since he arrived in this country the idiots have said:
"he will never replace RP"
"He wont score 30+ goals"
"He'll be a flop"
"Aah see, he missed, what a shit guy"
"Ah ha! Another miss"
"Yeah put him on the bench"
"If this guys so good, why is he on the bench?"
"What a fucking flop!"
"You'll never score"
"Score already!"
"We need Llorente"
"Sign up Llorente"
All that in a split second when you need absolute concentration. Yes, he should score, but I do understand why the pressure can get to him. If I was a foreign player, I'd avoid the PL like I'd avoid begging junkies on the high-street. If it's not the press, it's the narrow-minded divvy fans that call you a flop before you even play (Which, Baba, you did. Before he even played, you wrote him off."
Poor little soul
Tell me how Arteta managed to cope with the endless braindead comparisons to Fabregas and how Podolski has managed to cope with the "he was shit at Bayern and only does it for the small clubs" press rhetoric eh? How did Cesc Fabregas go on to become the envy of Europe's top clubs when in 2006 he was "too physically lightweight" and never fit to lace Vieira's boots
If the guy wanted to stay out of the fucking spotlight then he should have stayed in Ligue 1 under the radar
I'm sure the £60k+ per week wages guaranteed for 4 years and the nice seven figure 'golden hello' were nice little sweeteners. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen
Yeah, it's not as if everyone is different, no? Nope, everyone reacts to situations the same.
You can't judge him this early. He will hopefully learn that the British press are wankers and most fans wont judge until you are settled. I personally think he plays well. Good runs (yes he's not quick) and strong in the box, decent passes and gets himself in good positions. Once he finds his confience and form, he will be deadly in front of goal.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'll admit I'm rong. But until he gives me reason to believe he's a flop, I'll back him. Wait until he gives a reason not to.
Is that all you've got?????
Strong in the box - so is Jason Roberts
Decent passes - err....his passes remind me of a guy that's never held a sand wedge in the bunker for the first time
Finds himself in good positions - the best fucking position he's been in so far has been on the bench. I could get in a good position too mate but if my second touch was a tackle or my shot resembled Peter Kay's clearance in the "ave it" adverts I don't reckon I'd be worth £14m and 60k per week
The guy is utter utter utter shite - even worse than Chamakh. When the Camel came on against Coventry we looked better for it
Agree I'm getting more and more worried about Giroud by the week, that's the second time he's had a great chance to grab point(s) for us late on and he's blown a chance he should finish. I've not wanted a player to succeed as much as I do Giroud for a long time because he works fucking hard and he's a genuine player, you can see it matters to him and he leaves everything out there. Don't think comparisons with Chamakh are fair but there's only so long you can make excuses about settling in etc. At the end of the day when you go one-on-one with the keeper it's the same in any league on any football pitch.
Remember that apparently Podolski was dreadful because he had a poor game for Germany in the Euros and was then a worldbeater because he was good at Liverpool and against Southampton but now he's shit again because he goes missing.
He ia shite, it's ridiculous that our best striker is actually out on loan, nver thought i'd use the word best when referring to bendtner, but that's the situation we are in
I think you actually have to remember just how shit Bender was for us. I would still take Giroud any day. We lost the game in midfield yesterday. Diaby getting injured was a massive blow. Plus Ramsey is just shit really shit
supergeorgegraham wrote:I think you actually have to remember just how shit Bender was for us. I would still take Giroud any day. We lost the game in midfield yesterday. Diaby getting injured is a predictable occurrence. Plus Ramsey is just shit really shit
goonersid wrote:He ia shite, it's ridiculous that our best striker is actually out on loan, nver thought i'd use the word best when referring to bendtner, but that's the situation we are in
I don't disagree - Bendtner is not fit to be a first choice striker at Arsenal but has shown more in front of goal than Giroud has. I repeat, when Chamakh came on against Coventry we actually looked better for it.
Glad that someone brought up the fact that only a few seasons ago Giroud was loaned out to Istres ??!! I mean you often see the top strikers in Europe being loaned out to lower divisions don't you when they are well into their twenties. Its like that loan spell RvP had at Doncaster a couple of years ago, and when we farmed TH14 out to Rochdale for a season.
FFS - the guy is absolutely fucking shite and anyone who think differently just watch a re-run of the Sunderland miss, the awful attempt at a left foot finish at Anfield when the great Abou laid it on a plate, and yesterday's shank into the side netting.
Personally I would rather have Demba Ba at our club, he was unsettled pre season at Newcastle and pool are sniffing around for a possible January transfer. I want Giroud to succeed but in the premiership you get punished for not taking your chances. So far Giroud misses have cost us 5 points this season, if that is playing on his mind then it will become a problem.
supergeorgegraham wrote:I think you actually have to remember just how shit Bender was for us. I would still take Giroud any day. We lost the game in midfield yesterday. Diaby getting injured was a massive blow. Plus Ramsey is just shit really shit
Shit he certainly was, but goroud is on his way to becoming the new frannie jeffers. 13 million and only 6 games into the season ans Wenger is starting games with no striker on the field, rather than play him.
Wenger bullshitting about confidence, well everytime giroud does eventually get on the pitch he looks more and more short of it.
Bendtner is a prick but he is better than giroud
Really if Giroud is utter shite then we have big problems. No way will Bender or Chamakh do anything for AFC. Mekon scored well yesterday but is not that good.
We should give Giroud around 12 games to prolong the question that he might be great ?
There's no doubt that Giroud will score a PL goal at some point in the coming weeks - heaven forbid, maybe even more than one - and no doubt the usual suspects on here will get all excited and start ramming our words down our throats. But he is never going to win us points single-handedly in the way that RvP, TH14 or other great strikers have done in the past. He simply doesn't have that ability and it can not be coached - he just isn't good enough and that is plain to see.
If we want to carry on kidding ourselves that when he bags one against Wigan or Norwich that he's turned the corner fine, but when it comes to big games like yesterday the guy will always be out of his depth. We used more than half of the RvP money to sign him too - wouldn't be bad if he was half the player but to find out the percentage of player he is compared to RvP you'd need the most powerful microscope money could buy just to work out how much lower than 0.00001% he actually is
supergeorgegraham wrote:Really if Giroud is utter shite then we have big problems. No way will Bender or Chamakh do anything for AFC. Mekon scored well yesterday but is not that good.
We should give Giroud around 12 games to prolong the question that he might be great ?
The thing is Wenger whilst unwilling to admit it, realises he has bought another french dud, so a run of 12 games will not be something Giroud will ever be able to look back upon when reflecting on his Arsenal career.
It is glaringly obvious to anyon e willing to look, that he is of such in ferior quality that he wouldn't make it at any premiership club.
