Arsenal v Chavs

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Babatunde
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LDB wrote:It's very simple, we lost that game because of the decision to drop Mertesacker.
Yep. Cos he'd have saved those crosses, scored goals up the other end and found a cure for cancer all within 90 minutes.
Reminds me of when people said "with a fit Rosicky"
:roll:

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The shit I'm reading is beyond the joke. It really isn't hard to see why the Chavs beat us.
They have a manager who assesses the opposition, selects players based on the opposition and his tactical set-up.
Chelski have better players and a better manager. It's not hard really.
Whilst Cech was making world class saves, Don Vito was looking every inch the Hull reject he is.
Whilst Torres buried a straightforward chance, the French Heskey was doing his usual sitter miss.
Where Ivanovic and Terry were rock solid, Koscielny and Vermaelen were playing like mosquitoes hammered on tequila.

So just to confirm: Chavs have better defenders, a top keeper who makes saves and commands his area, they have an established captain, better defensive midfielders, better attacking midfield options, better strikers and a better manager.
All a consequence of Wenker's transfer window ineptitude.

But yes agreed, Mertesacker alone woulda solved all that
:rubchin: :roll:

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Babatunde wrote:
LDB wrote:It's very simple, we lost that game because of the decision to drop Mertesacker.
Yep. Cos he'd have saved those crosses, scored goals up the other end and found a cure for cancer all within 90 minutes.
Reminds me of when people said "with a fit Rosicky"
:roll:
Its a bit of a silly argument really? Who knows what would have happened but because it cant be proven either way you cant poo poo it..... but one thing i agree with dropping the best performing defender yesterday certainly didnt help the outcome of the match

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flash gunner wrote:
Babatunde wrote:
LDB wrote:It's very simple, we lost that game because of the decision to drop Mertesacker.
Yep. Cos he'd have saved those crosses, scored goals up the other end and found a cure for cancer all within 90 minutes.
Reminds me of when people said "with a fit Rosicky"
:roll:
Its a bit of a silly argument really? Who knows what would have happened but because it cant be proven either way you cant poo poo it..... but one thing i agree with dropping the best performing defender yesterday certainly didnt help the outcome of the match
Retarded decision. Then again, this is the same idiot that dropped an on fire Arshavin for an FA Cup semi, so he "could try to give the young ones belief they can win".

Fucking plonker :roll:

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Poor team selection,poor defending at set pieces,poor use of subs ,poor tactics !

Another typical Arsenal day !

But their first goal should have been disallowed Torres is all over Kos and we had chances .

Upset yes,end of the world no !

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SteveO 35 wrote:So next Saturday at 3 pm Chelsea will be rolling over Norwich at Chavford Bridge, leaving us 10 points behind them going in to the West Ham away game.

Basically if we then fail to win that and by definition are 9 or 10 points behind is that another title challenge over by the first week of October? Oh well, I guess it lasted a couple of weeks longer than last year's bid. Who knows, one day our esteemed manager might have us staying competitive into November
Our title challenge ended before even the first ball of the new season was kicked

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Babatunde wrote: Cos he'd have saved those crosses,
:roll:
Yes, he would have. His replacement was responsible for both Chelsea goals.

I thought it was a close game between two decent but not outstanding sides but only one of those sides had been unnecessarily dicking around with their back 4 before the game.

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LDB wrote:It's very simple, we lost that game because of the decision to drop Mertesacker.
this is indeed the overriding reason.

games like saturday are the ones that really, really f##k me off for days at a time. being a glutton for punishment i'll be back next week :roll:

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Don't think it was all down to dropping Mertesacker. After we conceded the first one I said that we were defending it far too deep, as we always do, particularly because nobody believes Mannone is going to come off his line to help at all. The first was a good ball but had we been defending higher it would have flashed across the goal. That said, Koscielny was also personally at fault for the goal because it was embarrassing how easily Torres muscled him out, no matter how quick and composed he is and how well he can read the game he's not gonna make it if he continues to get pushed off so easily.

But the second goal I didn't actually think was really his fault. Stupid free-kick to give away thanks to sloppiness and last year's gung-ho attitude creeping back in, but again we were far too deep. This one wasn't a great ball and any other team in the league would have cut it out. It's just basic to have somebody like Gibbs screening the front to stop the low ball into the box because it's so difficult to defend, but because we had nobody there it made it exceptionally easy for them to put that ball in.

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Herd wrote:Poor team selection,poor defending at set pieces,poor use of subs ,poor tactics !

Another typical Arsenal day !

But their first goal should have been disallowed Torres is all over Kos and we had chances .

Upset yes,end of the world no !
Bollocks mate. They were both at it and Torres was just stronger. If you think that's a free kick you need your eyes, head and everything else tested.

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This forum has started to really bore me.

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rigsby wrote:This forum has started to really bore me.
Bye then

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Babatunde wrote:The shit I'm reading is beyond the joke. It really isn't hard to see why the Chavs beat us.
They have a manager who assesses the opposition, selects players based on the opposition and his tactical set-up.
Chelski have better players and a better manager. It's not hard really.
Whilst Cech was making world class saves, Don Vito was looking every inch the Hull reject he is.
Whilst Torres buried a straightforward chance, the French Heskey was doing his usual sitter miss.
Where Ivanovic and Terry were rock solid, Koscielny and Vermaelen were playing like mosquitoes hammered on tequila.

So just to confirm: Chavs have better defenders, a top keeper who makes saves and commands his area, they have an established captain, better defensive midfielders, better attacking midfield options, better strikers and a better manager.
All a consequence of Wenker's transfer window ineptitude.

But yes agreed, Mertesacker alone woulda solved all that
:rubchin: :roll:
Spot on, as usual.

Anyone who honestly believes the current manager will ever deliver another league is deluded. Same old Arsenal...sadly.

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Babatunde wrote: Retarded decision. Then again, this is the same idiot that dropped an on fire Arshavin for an FA Cup semi, so he "could try to give the young ones belief they can win".

Fucking plonker :roll:
For me that decision must be one of the most stupid any Arsenal manager has ever made! I remember when I heard Wenger's reasons for doing it I was absolutely furious. And I also remember Wenger apologosits defending the decision because Arshavin was poor when he came on for 15 minutes :roll:

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LDB wrote:
Babatunde wrote: Cos he'd have saved those crosses,
:roll:
Yes, he would have. His replacement was responsible for both Chelsea goals.

I thought it was a close game between two decent but not outstanding sides but only one of those sides had been unnecessarily dicking around with their back 4 before the game.
Yeah I think its reasonable to assume had Metersacker played we'd have defended a lot better and as a result probably got a better result. Whatever the personell on the pitch though, there are still some fundamental problems at the club and they will always be there while Wenger is there.

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