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the scum shirt, wearing good for 1 scouser game prick should fuck off and do the right thing.
If he had any respect he would retire as he is fucking our midfield up. Give another player or a new signing a chance
wanker
little harsh
Don't waste your breath mate. There's no voice of reason to be had on here for Diaby. I've tried but most people would rather knock themselves bandy watching self styled hardman Frimpong running around like a headless chicken
Any defence you use will be met with the same old hackneyed shite about wearing a Scum shirt etc etc
Steve O, we have had some good "debates" about diaby on here ( ) and we clearly wont agree on him but just out of curiousity does that scum shirt wearing issue bother you at all ? Maybe I have asked you that in the past (old and senile so memory aint what it used to be ) but you always appear quite dismissive of this incident like it means nothing but to me and others it most def does. You can question whether the reaction would be the same if wilshire done it and it is a valid question that I am not sure what the answer would be but that shouldnt make what diaby did as any more acceptable should it ?
Another question steve.....at what point would you accept that he is never gonna work out for us given his constant string of injuries ? We may disagree on ability but the injuries are a matter of fact and somewhere along the line a business decision should be made on that dont you think ?
When the news story first broke about it I remember saying what a prat he had been to come out and say that. I even said my defence of him was over (although somewhat in jest).
I guess I can't take huge offence to him saying he's worn a friend's shirt - his point was that Kaboul was a friend and he had worn his shirt round the house. His offence was coming out and stating it because having been here for six years he should know that it would get an adverse reaction from fans.
Personally, I think its a non-story. People's reaction to it remind me of all the little Englanders that sit there cheering aganst Andy Murray in every tournament because back in 2006 he made some throwaway remark (in response to baiting from English journalists) about cheering for Paraguay against England. I'm English but I'm able to differentiate between a bit of banter and naive comment from a 17 year old, as opposed to some form of genuine lack of respect towards the fans.
I don't mind people coming on here with constructive comments about Diaby. We all know that his injury record is hugely frustrating, but as herd points out that is hardly his fault is it (just like its not Sagna's fault or Wilshere's fault). I get pissed off when the first comment about him is something along the lines of that "Scum shirt wearing *word censored*", just as much as I get pissed off with sid's bullshit about wishing Shawcross had broken both of Ramsey's legs.
I get people's frustration. My weekend (wedding anniversary weekend too) was fucked over by Wenger and his braindead decisions and lack of tactical nous, and Mannone's inability to catch a cold. I think my weekend posting shows that. I just don't ever need to resort to "scum supporting *word censored*" or "fuck off wanker" or wishing our players were seriously injured. Is that asking too much, or do we want this place closed down again ?
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger admits that he 'gambled' with Abou Diaby's fitness and it could cost them.
Interesting that, whenever ODL "gambles" it involves being a fucking cheapskate joke eg "gambling" on Diaby, "gambling" on Silvestre, "gambling" on Emile Giroud to replace "RVP", etc.
(Oh look, they're all French! Now THERE'S a surprise )
Yet he never "gambles" by you know, spending £35mil on Falcao. Or 15mil on Dembele etc...
Herd wrote:Diaby hating is very popular among Anti wengerists !
It isnt his fault he gets injured for the cause,he's not always perfect and having him and song in the same team fucked up any semblance of balance, but hes a good player ...............he just doesn't play enough ,we should wait till he has 10 games on the trot and sell him !
Now i know you are joking.
I have no problems keeping him as long as its on pay as you play because no club would buy a player who gives you three games then is out for 3
Babatunde wrote:Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger admits that he 'gambled' with Abou Diaby's fitness and it could cost them.
Interesting that, whenever ODL "gambles" it involves being a fucking cheapskate joke eg "gambling" on Diaby, "gambling" on Silvestre, "gambling" on Emile Giroud to replace "RVP", etc.
(Oh look, they're all French! Now THERE'S a surprise )
Yet he never "gambles" by you know, spending £35mil on Falcao. Or 15mil on Dembele etc...
Interesting that, whenever you "post" it involves Giroud.
Babatunde wrote:Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger admits that he 'gambled' with Abou Diaby's fitness and it could cost them.
Interesting that, whenever ODL "gambles" it involves being a fucking cheapskate joke eg "gambling" on Diaby, "gambling" on Silvestre, "gambling" on Emile Giroud to replace "RVP", etc.
(Oh look, they're all French! Now THERE'S a surprise )
Yet he never "gambles" by you know, spending £35mil on Falcao. Or 15mil on Dembele etc...
Interesting that, whenever you "post" it involves Giroud.
SImilarly interesting, is how correct I have been proved on him also. Don't suppose you've got anything to say to that Mr Apologist do you? Or do you know anything abouyt French football?...
Herd wrote:Diaby hating is very popular among Anti wengerists !
It isnt his fault he gets injured for the cause,he's not always perfect and having him and song in the same team fucked up any semblance of balance, but hes a good player ...............he just doesn't play enough ,we should wait till he has 10 games on the trot and sell him !
Maybe not.... but it's Wengers fault to offer him contracts based on a injury record that would even shame Darren Anderton.... he even didn't buy a midfield player on the back of Diaby somehow staying fit....gambling on it in fact, when he already hand all the information on him and his injury record to hand...
I think it's common concensus that Abou Diaby's career was pretty much ended by that Dan Smith "tackle" in 2006. So why the hell he's still at the club in 2012 and draining 60 odd grand a week from our resources is only something Wenger can answer. Let's face it he's never going to be able to play more than 3 games in a row (if that) without picking up some sort of injury. He even got injured taking a shot for christ sake!!!!!
If Diaby were to be put on the transfer list tomorrow morning no club would touch him with a barge pole due to his injury record. That is how you rate his contribution/value to the club. Depressing.
rodders999 wrote:I think it's common concensus that Abou Diaby's career was pretty much ended by that Dan Smith "tackle" in 2006. So why the hell he's still at the club in 2012 and draining 60 odd grand a week from our resources is only something Wenger can answer. Let's face it he's never going to be able to play more than 3 games in a row (if that) without picking up some sort of injury. He even got injured taking a shot for christ sake!!!!!
If Diaby were to be put on the transfer list tomorrow morning no club would touch him with a barge pole due to his injury record. That is how you rate his contribution/value to the club. Depressing.
Agreed 100%.
Diaby has talent. But his injury prone-ness (!) far far outweighs that talent, unfotunately. He's totally unreliable. Last season on one of his many "returns from injury" he came on as a sub and went back off 10 minutes later injured! I recall my mate just sitting their laughing at the fucking ridiculousness of it. On Saturday he injured himself taking a fucking shot! You simply cannot make this up.
I said during the general Diabywánkfest on here after the Mousers game that the big issue was not his ability, but whether he could he do that for 3 or 5 games in a row. I felt the answer was no.
Sadly, as most of us knew, he couldn't. He never will.
I am reluctantly coming round to the idea that Abou's story is going to be one of a talent never fulfilled. Picking up injuries like the one at Anfield last season and again on Saturday are a very worrying sign, because unlike the Smith assault in 2006, these are non-contact injuries which simply suggest that his body can't cope with the demands of the PL.
Very sad. I'm not sure how any of that amounts to him being a *word censored* or deserving of 'fuck off wanker' from his own supporters mind.
SteveO 35 wrote:I am reluctantly coming round to the idea that Abou's story is going to be one of a talent never fulfilled. Picking up injuries like the one at Anfield last season and again on Saturday are a very worrying sign, because unlike the Smith assault in 2006, these are non-contact injuries which simply suggest that his body can't cope with the demands of the PL.
Very sad. I'm not sure how any of that amounts to him being a *word censored* or deserving of 'fuck off wanker' from his own supporters mind.
Agreed on the abuse. Never saw the point of abusing our own players tbh. Sure yelling "get your finger out, Ramsey!" or "Stop diving, Comedy Eboue!" are fine by me and are (kinda) constructive criticism... in a way...
But telling them to fuck off or calling them wánkers seems a bit pointless.
SteveO 35 wrote:I am reluctantly coming round to the idea that Abou's story is going to be one of a talent never fulfilled. Picking up injuries like the one at Anfield last season and again on Saturday are a very worrying sign, because unlike the Smith assault in 2006, these are non-contact injuries which simply suggest that his body can't cope with the demands of the PL.
Very sad. I'm not sure how any of that amounts to him being a *word censored* or deserving of 'fuck off wanker' from his own supporters mind.
Agreed on the abuse. Never saw the point of abusing our own players tbh. Sure yelling "get your finger out, Ramsey!" or "Stop diving, Comedy Eboue!" are fine by me and are (kinda) constructive criticism... in a way...
But telling them to fuck off or calling them wánkers seems a bit pointless.
So does that include cashley hole who met with chav officials mid-season whilst under contract to us ? Does that include greedybayor who blatantly stopped trying for a season when he decided he no longer wanted to play for us ? It is all well and good claiming that players shouldn't be abused based on their lack of ability but to treat the club disrespectfully and/or to not put in a satisfactory amount of effort is absolutely unacceptable to me and I will give them dogs abuse regardless of how my neighbors in the ground feel
SteveO 35 wrote:I am reluctantly coming round to the idea that Abou's story is going to be one of a talent never fulfilled. Picking up injuries like the one at Anfield last season and again on Saturday are a very worrying sign, because unlike the Smith assault in 2006, these are non-contact injuries which simply suggest that his body can't cope with the demands of the PL.
Very sad. I'm not sure how any of that amounts to him being a *word censored* or deserving of 'fuck off wanker' from his own supporters mind.
Agreed on the abuse. Never saw the point of abusing our own players tbh. Sure yelling "get your finger out, Ramsey!" or "Stop diving, Comedy Eboue!" are fine by me and are (kinda) constructive criticism... in a way...
But telling them to fuck off or calling them wánkers seems a bit pointless.
So does that include cashley hole who met with chav officials mid-season whilst under contract to us ? Does that include greedybayor who blatantly stopped trying for a season when he decided he no longer wanted to play for us ? It is all well and good claiming that players shouldn't be abused based on their lack of ability but to treat the club disrespectfully and/or to not put in a satisfactory amount of effort is absolutely unacceptable to me and I will give them dogs abuse regardless of how my neighbors in the ground feel
You are using completely different arguments to justify abusing Diaby and you know you are. Has he been caught talking to other clubs, getting his agent to hawk him around - no. Has he got a lack of ability, this guy who still when fit walks into the French midfield -no. Does he have a lack of effort in games - most certainly not when you look at the likes of Arshavin and Greedy.
All I can see so far is people hating him because of an injury track record which is hardly his fault and some pathetic non-story in a tabloid about wearing Kaboul's shirt in his house
He lacks a final ball far too often.
I stand to be corrected but this is his final season on his current contract, and even if he does well - would think the club should only offer him a one year rolling deal because of his injury record.
He does deserve credit for perseverance in adversity, even going to the extent of organising his own pre season training a couple of seasons ago, when he trained with a triathlete to try and strengthen is legs.
) and we clearly wont agree on him but just out of curiousity does that scum shirt wearing issue bother you at all ? Maybe I have asked you that in the past (old and senile so memory aint what it used to be
) but you always appear quite dismissive of this incident like it means nothing but to me and others it most def does. You can question whether the reaction would be the same if wilshire done it and it is a valid question that I am not sure what the answer would be but that shouldnt make what diaby did as any more acceptable should it ?
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